Originally posted by yourmaker
the reason nothing is being done is because we all want to see the next episode.
Originally posted by DevilJin
Originally posted by sunqueen30
Tell me people, if the truth is being displayed in a nationally syndicated show with many millions following and agreeing, then why is nothing being done about it? I can give you one reason. Shows like JEsse's CT make the whole thing look like a joke led by paranoid fanatics. It's a 3 ring circus. Everytime Jesse goes "predator" on someone, it is a slap in the face of the truth. Just calling it conspiracy theory automatically discredits it since the term is synonymous with joke. DO you think that TPTB would allow that show to even air if they felt it would devalue what they are doing? It only helps promote the desensitization that will make us gloss over the issues.
and that silly, useless little letter does not change or fix a thing. Jesse has made a career out of conspiracy theories because it is profitable. The millions in his bank account from the show and the mansion he lives in does not fix any of our ills. But it does keep us quiet and complacent because Finally! Someone is doing something. SO now we don't have to. Baaaaaa!
I agree with you for the most part but if you believe Jesse has ignited the fire, then YOU the people have join in and do something to keep that fire going. You can't wait for a hero to ride his coattails all the time.
The show overall is ineffective. I've noted there were many conspiracy shows (good ones without the gimmicks) in the 80s' and early 90s' but look what happened: nothing. People gasp and are shocked. The world moves on.
What we should want is a critical thinking population wary of its government and if push, then the people should shove back but it won't because people are apathetic and desensitized and powerless. No, we aren't sheep or any other of those divisive labels you guys tend to use. We have simply gotten lazy.
Originally posted by Cito
You should have heard Jesse on Howard Stern's show his last visit, Howard straight up asked if he believed everything on his show. He said and I quote "Oh Howard, it's entertainment, they give me a script, we film, I get paid, it is what it is", he's not some truth seeker, they know people love conspiracy theory stuff, hell it's all History Channel does nowdays is reality shows and Aliens
But yea, go download Jesse's last visit on Howard Stern to see what Jesse really believes, there is one thing he said he believed and it was to get the hell out of the United States, is why he lives in Mexico now. He hates the country that it's turned into and he took off while the getting was good he said.
In some ways, I don't blame him.
reply to post by TerryMcGuire
I agree with everything you said! So now, how do we do this differently so that it sticks?
Originally posted by sunqueen30
Originally posted by dontdrinkthewater
reply to post by sunqueen30
I think there is some truth to what you say, but I also think you're missing the point. Just like this website, most of the "truth" is paranoid delusion masquerading as "conspiracy theories". When it comes to truth in politics and government, however, Ventura is about as close as we can expect to get in terms of a revolutionary candidate. Plus his past fame gives him a good chance to stay alive. For that reason I don't care what the guy does in his spare time to make a buck.
This is how we have an educated discussion of opposing views people. With respect for the information given. And a logical explanation of our own views. That star is from me. I am so open to opposing views. I am willing to even admit I am wrong if I see enough damning evidence. But a bully will never convince me otherwise.
I do see what you are saying. Truth is relevant no matter how we get it. But I think that the historical actions of the figures relaying it determine how we digest it. Here is a former wrestler and fake ex navy seal who is telling america about the ills of our government and country. Do you think that educated people will think this is a credible informant? A person's character means all in how information is percieved. And look at what happened when we got an actor as president.edit on 23-4-2011 by sunqueen30 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ISRAELdid911
reply to post by BLKMJK
I watched that ... and your description does not match reality. Jesse said at the end of the interview - I know why they choose you - your good at pushing buttons.... so it was a setup that didn't work and your claiming he is a fool... he is your next vice president and or president - he can have any office he wishes - and hell we need Jesse to Intemidate the government back to normal and balanced.