reply to post by DancedWithWolves
Thanks for the support DWW, I was quite confused about it as well since I think my post was relevant, however I do have great respect for the mods who
have a very difficult task keeping on top of that thread.
Letter to mods:
I really don't see why my post was removed. I was replying to Des's post about the youTube video in which the man was discussing censorship. My post
responded to that idea of censorship and the fact that censorship is being used as a way to silence the debate. It could be a kind of nuclear war and
I welcomed folks to the new era of nuclear war. My reply was directly relevant to the topic she posted. I quoted Shakespeare at the end, was that the
reason? However there is a reply to my post by Pilot that you did not remove that consists entirely of a quote by Yeats and does not in any way
mention censorship or nuke power.
I'm a bit confused why you allowed Destiny's post and Pilot's reply but not mine. Perhaps you could elaborate on this for me so I can avoid making
this mistake in the future?
There is a certain irony that my post about censorship was censored, lol, however I'm willing to see this as an honest 1) mistake 2) different
interpretation of the focus of the monster thread. Either way its done and I think I can move on from it
Back on track, I think I posted this way way back in the monster thread that you should expect that ATS is being monitored. Homeland Security does
have the power to shut down or censor ISP's if it is deemed to be in the national interest. Censoring information at the source is the most effective
since, and JapGov/Tepco are doing a really good job at employing this tactic. I was quite happy to see that independent organizations such as
Greenpeace are attempting to gather their own data.
We've seen in other countries that service providers can be intimidated and shut down. China is a famous example, although many thought it couldn't
happen in Egypt either, and did. Although we think that the internet is open and free and untouchable, it isn't. The US Gov and governments around the
world are quite focused on getting control of the internet and mobile, I'm thinking of the
"kill switch bill"
that is surely to return. There is a lot at stake and it is almost
antithetical to most governments to not want to exert some legislative power over such powerful communications channels. Whether or not they will
succeed remains to be seen, however, ISP's have shown a very weak-kneed response. Under current legislation they can be forced to reveal IP's and
other data the government deems relevant under the Patriot Act, and regularly use tools like Carnivore for
. Google appears to want to
re-engage China (Google wants to return to China
) and this story
was another lesson about open warfare with a national government and internet giant.
How Egypt shut down the
Egyptian internet shut down has wide
US Censorship bill
This doesn't even begin to address issues of the internet being shut down by hostile agents of competing governments (cyber war), requests by foreign
governments, or even hackers (internet mercs) out for data piracy for profit and fun.
Korean hackers shut down banks for 3 days, steal
millions of bank account records
ATS is definitely being monitored for keywords by homeland and I'm sure many threads here will receive extra attention (including this one). I would
save images and links that you would like to save just to 'error on the side of caution'.
edit on 23-4-2011 by Wertwog because: another snippet added