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Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by thorfourwinds
Meanwhile, back to the Fukushima World-Killer Nuke Meltdowns and the [color=limegreen]continuing radiation poising of our land, food and children - 24/7/365.
zorgon, what is your take on this?
Well, I spent three weeks following that Fukushima story doggedly... then in the end I found out three things...
1) Except for a handful of people and those that live in the area.. NO ONE CARES...
2) We are still here... 1000's of nuke tests (especially near my home town) medical radiation, space radiation, CME's, cell tower radiation, microwave radiation... etc etc.. and we are STILL HERE.. and world population is increasing exponentially
3) Radiation is good for you
Originally posted by ShortMemory
well the symptoms would suggest radiation poisioning
ANCHORAGE, Alaska — A mysterious disease, possibly a virus, has afflicted ringed seals along Alaska's coast, killing scores of them since July, local and federal agencies said on Thursday.
The diseased seals have been beaching themselves on the Arctic coastline since July, [color=limegreen]with numbers picking up in subsequent months, biologists with the North Slope Borough Department of Wildlife Management and other agencies said.
About 100 of the diseased animals have been found near Barrow, the nation's northernmost community, and half of those have died, the borough biologists reported.
Ringed seals rarely come ashore in normal circumstances, spending most of the year in the water or on floating ice, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Fisheries Service.
Biologists said they believe the illness was caused by a virus.
Symptoms include sometimes-bleeding lesions on the hind flippers, irritated skin around the nose and eyes and patchy hair loss on the animals' fur coats.
Some dead walruses at Point Hope, a village on Alaska's northwest coast, were found with similar lesions, borough biologists said.
Local hunters also reported finding skin lesions on two bearded seals, the biologists said.
Yet identification of the disease remains elusive, and it was not clear that the lesions found on the walruses were from the same disease that has afflicted the ringed seals, said Bruce Woods, spokesman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
"We're kind of in the dark at this point," he said.
The remote locations and other logistical challenges make it impossible to provide veterinary care to beached animals that are sick, said Jason Herreman, a borough biologist.
"Seals that are found dead are collected for sampling. Seals that are sick but alive are being left to recover on their own," he said in an e-mail. Samples were being sent to various laboratories in Anchorage and elsewhere, he said.
Ringed seals, bearded seals and Pacific walruses are all dependent on floating summer sea ice and are suffering the impacts of rapid warming in the Arctic, according to federal agencies.
NOAA has proposed listing Alaska's ringed seals and bearded seals as threatened, and the Fish and Wildlife Service has also designated the Pacific walrus as a candidate for Endangered Species Act protections.
Ringed seals are part of the "true seal" family Phocidae. The ringed seal is the smallest and most common seal in the Arctic. They have a small head, short cat-like snout, and a plump body. Their coat is dark with silver rings on their back and sides with a silver belly. Their small foreflippers have claws more than 1 inch (2.5 cm) thick that are used to maintain breathing holes through 6.5 ft (2 m) thick ice.
They grow to average lengths of 5 ft (1.5 m) with weights ranging from 110-150 lbs (50-70 kg). Ringed seals live about 25 to 30 years.
They are solitary animals and when hauled out on ice separate themselves from each other by hundreds of yards.
· Females construct lairs within the thick ice and give birth in these structures.
· Ringed seals are a preferred prey of polar bears.
· The ringed seal is the smallest and the most common seal in the Arctic.
Ringed seals reside in arctic waters and are commonly associated with ice floes and pack ice.
The ringed seal is found in the Northern Hemisphere with a circumpolar distribution ranging from 35°N to the North Pole.
[color=limegreen]There is only one recognized stock of ringed seals in U.S. waters: the Alaska stock.
The estimated population size for the Alaska stock of ringed seals is 249,000 animals.
Currently, the population trend for this stock is unknown.
Ringed seals are harvested annually by Arctic natives for subsistence.
By catch in fishing gear, such as commercial trawls, is also another threat to ringed seals
Climate change is potentially the most serious threat to ringed seal populations since much of their habitat is dependent upon pack ice.
Conservation Efforts Ringed seals are considered Low Risk-least concern in the IUCN Red List of species.
Regulatory Overview This species is protected under the Marine Mammal Protection Act of 1972 as amended.
What information can I find in a stock assessment report? Each report includes:
▪ a description of the stock's geographic range
▪ a "minimum population estimate"
▪ [color=limegreen]current population trends
▪ current and maximum net productivity rates
▪ "Potential Biological Removal" levels
▪ status of the stock
▪ estimates of annual human-caused mortality and serious injury by source
▪ descriptions of other factors that may be causing a decline or impeding the recovery of "strategic stocks"
The estimated population size for the Alaska stock of ringed seals is 249,000 animals.
Currently, the population trend for this stock is unknown.
How is the information used?
This information is used to:
▪ identify and evaluate the status of marine mammal populations and the effects of human activities upon them
▪ authorize the "taking" of marine mammals incidental to human activities
▪ design and conduct appropriate conservation measures
▪ [color=limegreen]evaluate the progress of each fishery in reducing its incidental mortality and serious injury to insignificant levels approaching a zero mortality and serious injury rate
While the full effects of the radiation pollution on wildlife are difficult to predict,...
... looking back at similar events in Chernobyl and Bikini Atoll, we find that the outlook for wildlife is not as grim as we might expect, according to information gathered by Sciencemag.org.
Examining the effects on animals near Chernobyl and Bikini Atoll [color=limegreen]animals can suffer short term harm from the radiation, but will, in the long term, recover.
Once in seawater, radiation can hurt ocean animals in several ways—by killing them outright, creating “bizarre mutations” in their offspring, or passing radioactive material up the food chain, according to Joseph Rachlin, director of Lehman College’s Laboratory for Marine and Estuarine Research in New York City.
“There will be a potential for a certain amount of lethality of living organisms, but that’s less of a concern than the possible effects on the genetics of the animals that become exposed,” Rachlin said.
“That’s the main problem as I see it with radiation—altering the genetics of the animal and interfering with reproduction.”
While the ocean has a high capacity for diluting radiation, the radioactive isotope levels in the sea near Japan’s eastern coast bring higher risk of death, mutation, and genetic degradation for marine life than previously predicted.
[color=limegreen]The greatest threat is to the future generations of sea creatures; the radiation could interfere with reproduction and the development of young, causing a collapse of the population. — Global Animal
U.S. public-health officials sought Tuesday to reassure consumers about the safety of food in the U.S., including seafood, amid news that fish contaminated with unusually high levels of radioactive materials had been caught in waters 50 miles from the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan.
No contaminated fish have turned up in the U.S., or in U.S. waters, according to experts from the Food and Drug Administration, Environmental Protection Agency and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
They expressed confidence that even a single fish sufficiently contaminated to pose a risk to human health would be detected by the U.S. monitoring system.
They also dismissed concerns that eating fish contaminated at the levels seen so far in Japan would pose such a risk.
Thomas Frieden, head of the CDC in Atlanta, said he expected continued detection of low levels of radioactive elements in the water, air and food in the U.S. in coming days, but that readings at those levels do not indicate any level of public health concern.
Since the Fukushima accident we have seen a stream of experts on radiation telling us not to worry, that the doses are too low, that the accident is nothing like Chernobyl and so forth. They appear on television and we read their articles in the newspapers and online. Fortunately the majority of the public don’t believe them.
There is a gap between them and us.
Between the phoney scientists and the public who don’t believe what they say.
Between those who are employed and paid to protect us from radioactive pollution and those who die from its consequences.
Between those who talk down what is arguably the greatest public health scandal in human history, [color=limegreen]and the facts that they ignore.
[color=limegreen]The Environmental Protection Agency yesterday reported finding elevated levels of iodine-131, a product of nuclear fission, in rainwater in Pennsylvania and Massachusetts. The levels exceed the maximum contaminant level (MCL) permitted in drinking water, but EPA continues to assure the public there is no need for alarm:
Governor Corbett Says Public Water Supply Testing Finds No Risk to Public From Radioactivity Found in Rainwater
'Rainwater is not typically directly consumed,' Corbett said. 'However, people might get alarmed by making what would be an inappropriate connection from rainwater to drinking water.
By testing the drinking water, we can assure people that the water is safe.' …
When scientists speak of radiation, they speak not only of single doses but also of cumulative doses. [color=limegreen]Japan nuclear radiation has spread around the globe leaving long-lasting cumulative low-level doses of radiation.
See for example, this research from the University of Iowa showing that 'cumulative radon exposure is a significant risk factor for lung cancer in women'.
And see these studies on the health effects cumulative doses of radioactive cesium. (As I noted on March 29th, [color=limegreen]the radioactive cesium fallout from Japan already rivals Chernobyl.
And the amount of radioactive fuel at Fukushima dwarfs Chernobyl).
Admittedly, the damage from huge single doses may be greater than the same cumulative dose from many small exposures. But the smaller doses can still add up.
Many studies have shown that repeated exposures to low levels of ionizing radiation from CT scans and x-rays can cause cancer. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this.
Remember, the radiation from CT scans and x-rays are external emitters – the radiation emanates from outside the body.
In contrast, internal emitters keep emitting their radiation inside the body.
Therefore, the cumulative effect of multiple small doses of radiation from internal emitters could be even more dramatic, depending on the half life, metabolic pathways and other properties of the particular radioactive particle.
“Karl Morgan, who worked on the Manhattan project, later came out against the nuclear industry when he understood the danger of low levels of ionizing radiation-and he said there is no safe dose of radiation exposure,” Cabasso continued, “That means all this talk about what a worker or the public can withstand on a yearly basis is bogus. There is no safe level of radiation exposure. These so-called safe levels are coming from within the nuclear establishment.[/co”
A leaked confidential NRC document on the Japan nuclear disaster reveals the situation in Fukushima is worse than anyone expected.
Top scientists in the United States and Japan have discovered a “wide array” of “complex problems” warning that [color=limegreen]the Japan nuclear disaster could continue on indefinitely and things could start to get much, much worse at any minute.
Iodine-131 was measured in a rainwater sample taken on the roof of Etcheverry Hall on UC Berkeley campus, March 23, 2011 from 9:06-18:00 PDT. The 3 Liters of rainwater collected contained 134 Becquerels of Iodine for an average of 20.1 Becquerel per liter, which equates to 543 Picocuries per liter.
The federal drinking water limit for Iodine-131 is 3 Picocuries per liter, putting the rainwater sample at 18,100% above the federal drinking water limit.
20.1 Becquerel per liter (Bq/L) = 543 Picocuries per liter (pCi/L)
Conversion calculator here.
The federal drinking water standard for Iodine-131 is 3 pCi/L. source
[color=limegreen]]Perhaps the worse news is confirmation that radioactive fragments and particles, including the deadly Plutonium “MOX” fuel, has been shot high into the atmosphere during the hydrogen explosions.
Cesium-137 has been detected in drinking water and milk here in the United States.
Cesium and Tellurium were found in Boise, Las Vegas, Nome and Dutch Harbor, Honolulu, Kauai and Oahu, Anaheim, Riverside, San Francisco, and San Bernardino, Jacksonville and Orlando, Salt Lake City, Guam, and Saipan while Uranium-234, with a half-life of 245,500 years has been found in Hawaii, California, and Washington.
The EPA has radiation monitoring sites situated around the country.
Radioactive isotopes spread through the atmosphere accumulate in milk after they fall to earth in rain or dust and settle on vegetation, where they are ingested by grazing cattle.
Iodine-131 is known to accumulate in the thyroid gland, where it can cause cancer and other thyroid diseases. Cesium-137 accumulates in the body’s soft tissues and bone marrow where it increases risk of cancer.
The EPA said in March that "while they were above the historical and background norm, the levels weren’t considered harmful to human health."
Originally posted by earthdude
reply to post by jadedANDcynical
Somebody is doing testing. They would tell us if we were in danger. Everyone is not out to fool us. There are many who are just like us, they care. The sky is not falling.
Somebody is doing testing.
They would tell us if we were in danger.
Everyone is not out to fool us.
The sky is not falling.
(...) ... over 100,000 tonnes of highly-contaminated water at Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant are estimated to contain 720,000 terabecquerels of radioactive materials.
If Kurion’s vessel absorbed enough radioactive materials in 5 hours and it should have taken 30 days, as I wrote in my previous post, the water was 144 times as radioactive as the system had anticipated.
If the water actually turns out to be 144 times as radioactive, the Fukushima accident would need a new INES category and should not be placed in the same category (Level 7) as the Chernobyl accident which released only 5.6 million terabecquerels of radioactive materials.
Maybe it should be simply called “Level Fukushima”.
Plutonium [color=limegreen]released is said to be 120 billion Becquerels.
Yokohama, Oct. 15 — Mochizuki of the Fukushima Diary website is reporting on a June 2011 document that has been “leaked on the internet” which reveals that Plutonium-238, -239, -240, and -241 were released “to the air” from Fukushima Daiichi during the first 100 hours after the earthquake.
[color=limegreen]The amount of
There are dozen of great interactive radiation maps that track the jet streams at surface, 2500m and 5,000 mt. There is a lot of different information for the various radioactive materials that are circling the world.
It seems inconceivable that Tokyo Electric doesn't view Fukushima as a futile battle. It's doubtful that their representatives or government officials, or ours, will suddently become truthful. While we all hope for a full containment to stop further radiation risks, the question of why it's not been entombed as Chernobyl was, must be asked.
How much longer will they allow it to destroy the land, sea and air?
The Jet stream moves west, reaching the West coast of North America first and spreading from there. Depending on the day, some days it reached Alaska first, some days it was Oregon and California.
The jet stream will carry radioactive particles, where they fall will change from day to day. Check radar maps so you'll know if you want to stay everyone indoors as much as possible.
Iodine 131 has a short half life, just 8 days or so.
The rest of the radioactive particles will be here long after we are gone.
These low levels of radiation will become part of our soils, our food, our milk, our vegetables and unless they and we detoxify and decontiminate, our health will suffer in the many ways discussed.
Saitama local government conducted radioactive cesium measurements for wild animals for hunters.
According to the research,
49 Bq/kg; 70 Bq/kg; 26 Bq/kg; 130 Bq/kg; 48 Bq/kg; 10 Bq/kg
Boar: 41 Bq/kg; 50 Bq/kg; 111 Bq/kg
Though human don’t eat grass or drink water from rain, we eat food from North Japan to 'cheer them up.'
It is highly likely that we humans are contaminated as those wild animals, too.
Being exposed to radiation myself, is obviously not an easy feeling.
The sense of crisis, when I think about children, who are biologically more vulnerable, is much worse.
I think its time for people to be angry.
I don't mean a little bit cross, I mean very, very, very angry.
When we start talking of kissing our collective @ss goodbye, and making peace with our religious deities, then it really is time to admit we are slaves and submit to whatever our overlords decree is to be our fate.
You like the fact that there are tons of plutonium and a host of other radioactive contaminants ejected into our atmosphere, into our oceans, and across our lands?
Of course not.
My tolerance has been all used up for those who continue to argue the answer must be to plead to those responsible for these crimes to become more human, less greedy, that we can turn them around still.
These seemingly misguided people have drawn their conclusions from a social position allowing them the hope of avoiding the worst to come, and can afford to behave as apologists calling for the rehabilitation of criminals.
Lets face facts here - and shake off the mysticism of those who wish us to endure so for a better afterlife, or exhort us to give in to the post-modern condition - the world is a fated fragmented hell that is all poison.
Human is human, you can't become a little more human or a little less; it isn't a matter of degrees of humanness.
We are either human or a giraffe, a fish, a rock, or one or other kind of ET (if you prefer).
In reality, being human or a giraffe, a fish, a rock, or one or other kind of ET (if you prefer).
In reality, being human is something we are only able to shake off by changing our physical state, when we become ash.
In other words, I am saying that those who have decided to allow the Fukushima catastrophe to occur, and even worse - those who may have even initiated an 'event' causing it to occur - are still human.
That is something we must face, and those same individuals will still have some one they love and care for if even it is only themselves (though that is hardly likely to be the case).
The kind of greed we see driving corporations and governments to ignore the plight of people in the name of profit is not the result of a few evil men and women, it is the result of a system that propagates the very conditions for the existence of such people in those roles that exert such total and manifest control over our lives and our world.
We need to change this world dramatically into one that cares for people and not for a system of individual profit.
It will take a revolution.
It is needed today and not tomorrow.
more required reading
This is the screen shot of the moment when they measured it in a car, around Toranomon, where is near Tokyo tower.(10/18/2011)
Before 3/11, average neutron ray was 4 nSv/h.
After 3/11, it’s 464 nSv/h (116 times higher than before 311).
Neutron ray is emitted from Uranium 235.
In one of the worst hot spots in Chiba, Kashiwa shi, citizens detected Uranium 235.
It was right beside a bench in Matsuba Daiichi Kinrin Park.
Neutron ray can not be measured by most of the Geiger counters.
and it’s way more harmful to human body.
According to the worst pro-nuc safety standard ICRP60:
• Tumor risk: 3~200 times higher than gamma ray
• Possibility to shorten your life by cancer: 15~45 times higher than gamma ray
• Genetic transformation: 35~70 times higher than gamma ray
• Chromosomal abnormality: 40~50 times higher than gamma ray
• Genetic impact for mammal: 10~45 times higher than gamma ray
This is why I warned that dosimeters makes you blind.
There have been a lot of the cases such as nosebleed, fatigue (bura bura disease), immune trouble etc..
They have been labelled as “harmful rumor” because “air dose” is too low to cause those symptoms.
However, this measurement of neutron rays makes everything clear.
Fear is always in the blind spot.
[color=limegreen]Now Uranium 235 is all around in Tokyo, which came from MOX with Plutonium.
They keep emitting neutron ray.
Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Wednesday it has observed a neutron beam, a kind of radioactive ray, 13 times on the premises of its crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant.
The utility said it will also measure uranium and plutonium, which could emit a neutron beam.
In the latest case at the Fukushima No. 1 plant, a criticality accident has yet to happen.
But the measured neutron beam may be evidence that uranium and plutonium leaked from the plant's nuclear reactors and spent nuclear fuel have discharged a small amount of neutron beams via fission.
Japan-Level Nuclear Crisis Possible At San Onofre
[...] More than 200 people from all over Southern California gathered in the San Clemente Community Center for the second of three meetings in which the San Clemente City Council is addressing lessons learned from Japan’s Fukushima disaster. [...]
“You’re sitting next to a cancer factory,” [Dr. Helen Caldicott, a Nobel Peace Prize nominee and co-founder of Physicians for Social Responsibility] said. “You are running a cancer factory that generates electricity.” [...]
Daniel Hirsch, a lecturer on Nuclear Policy at UC Santa Cruz, said 8.5 million people live within 50 miles of San Onofre, the distance that U.S. federal regulators recommended that Americans around Fukushima should flee after March 11.
Yet here, the NRC’s emergency planning zone is 10 miles around San Onofre, a nuclear plant he said was approved without a workable evacuation plan. [...]
“It’s all invisible. The trees are still trees, people are shopping, the birds are singing and dogs are walking in the street,” said Chris Busby, a visiting professor at the University of Ulster’s school of biomedical sciences, who visited Fukushima prefecture last week to provide information on health risks.
“When you bring out the (Geiger) machines, you can see everything is sparkling and everyone is being bitten by invisible snakes that will eventually kill them.”
Originally posted by DancedWithWolves
reply to post by thorfourwinds
Greetings and thank you for the continued proof.
The fundamental problem is, when people wake up and realize what's happening, the nightmare continues. Waking up does not stop what has already happened, and continues to happen.
People have accepted what they they feel they cannot change. If they have no ability to protect themselves and those they hold dear, what purpose does waking serve?
Stopping the next accidents....there lies the need.
How people, once awake, can possibly protect themselves, if at all....there too, is the need.
All of your thoughts and counsel on this 24/7/365 nightmare continue to be appreciated.
Be well and do good things.
First, the former editor of a national newspaper in Japan says the [color=limegreen]U.S. and Israel knew Fukushima had weapons-grade uranium and plutonium that were exposed to the atmosphere after a massive tsunami wave hit the reactor.
Second, he contends that Israeli intelligence sabotaged the reactor in retaliation for Japan’s support of an independent Palestinian state.
According to Yoishi Shimatsu, a former editor of Japan Times Weekly, these nuclear materials were shipped to the plant in 2007 on the orders of Dick Cheney and George W. Bush, with the connivance of Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.
The shipment was in the form of warhead cores secretly removed from the U.S. nuclear warheads facility BWXT Pantex near Amarillo, Texas.
Work performed at Pantex supports three core missions – Stockpile Stewardship, Nonproliferation, and Safeguards and Security.
The Plant’s Programmatic work falls within these missions.
• • Evaluate, retrofit, and repair weapons in support of both life extension programs and certification of weapon safety and reliability; • Develop, test, and fabricate high explosive components;
• • Dismantle weapons that are surplus to the strategic stockpile; • Provide interim storage and surveillance of plutonium pits; • Sanitize components from dismantled weapons;
Safeguards and Security
• • Protect the Plant personnel, facilities, materials, and information.
All work at Pantex is carried out under these overarching priorities: the security of weapons and information, the safety and health of workers and the public, and the protection of the environment.
While acting as the middleman, Israel transported warheads from the port of Houston, and in the process kept the best ones while giving the Japanese older warhead cores that had to be further enriched at Fukushima.
Shimatsu credits retired CIA agent and mercenary Roland Vincent Carnaby with learning the warheads were being transported from Houston.
In a strange twist, Carnaby was mysteriously shot dead less than a year later by Houston police at a traffic stop...
To Be Continued...
Liberty & Equality
Peace Love Light
Originally posted by thorfourwinds
28 March 2011
EPA Monitoring Continues to Confirm That No Radiation Levels of Concern Have Reached the United States
28 March 2011
EPA: Expect More Radiation in Rainwater