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Originally posted by dizTheWiz
think i may have found something...sorry if link was already postededit on 22-4-2011 by dizTheWiz because: (no reason given)
check it out may be what every one is loooking foredit on 22-4-2011 by dizTheWiz because: (no reason given)
An experiment of interest was to compare the technique with the shaping of a hole using steel tool and the quartz sand technique recommended by historians. The test was run for 15 minutes and the Vh measured for each technique.
Vh after 15 minutes of working:
steel tool - 12 ml (spoon spatula)
quartz sand - 8.5 ml
bio-tooling - 9.5 ml
The hole resulting from sand abrasion has rough walls, whereas bio-tooling gives a smooth finish.
Originally posted by FedSen
Great thread! This could very well explain how the ancients were able to create such large structures with precision joints. If you soften up the ends then stick them together they will dry as one. I also like the idea brought up that entire bricks can be formed on site instead of being hauled around. I would also like to know what Hancock book talked about this so I can read more on it.
As for the book that you found the original information in, "Lost City of Z" I believe...how is it? I've thought about reading this as well but haven't heard any reviews on it yet.
Venero Gonzales  reports that the plant is often said to be manka p'aki (Eupatorium peregrinum, Eupatorium sternberginianum),
2. Veneros Gonzalez JL, Cannon PG, Casanova JA. Agroforestería en Ccachín. In: Proyecto FAO-Holanda/INFOR-CENFOR IX Cusco, editor. Informes Técnicos Forestales. Lima: FAO; 1987. pp. 77–82.
Originally posted by kdog1982
Well dug a little deeper and came up with the plant that was supposedly used
... Aukanaw, an Argentine anthropologist of Mapuche origin, who died in 1994, related a tradition about a species of woodpecker known locally by such names as pitiwe, pite, and pitio; its scientific name is probably Colaptes pitius (Chilean flicker), which is found in Chile and Argentina, or Colaptes rupicola (Andean flicker), which is found in southern Ecuador, Peru, western Bolivia, and northern Argentina and Chile. If someone blocks the entrance to its nest with a piece of rock or iron it will fetch a rare plant, known as pito or pitu, and rub it against the obstacle, causing it to become weaker or dissolve. In Peru, above 4500 m, there is said to be a plant called kechuca which turns stone to jelly, and which the jakkacllopito bird uses to make its nest. A plant with similar properties that grows at even higher altitudes is known, among other things, as punco-punco; this may be Ephedra andina, which the Mapuche consider a medicinal plant.5
From this source
davidpratt.info...edit on 22-4-2011 by kdog1982 because: (no reason given)
Davidovits has also argued that the disaggregation of stone materials with organic acids from plant extracts was a universal technique in antiquity. Pliny mentions the use of vinegar (acetic acid) in the disaggregation of limestone rocks, and Hannibal (219 BC) used the technique to bore holes in and burst open rocks obstructing his path through the Alps in his attempt to conquer Rome. Davidovits and his coworkers have demonstrated that a solution containing acetic, oxalic, and citric acid (obtained from plants) can disaggregate rocks containing calcium carbonate (e.g. limestone and calcite). He draws attention to the extraordinary skill in fabricating stone objects displayed by the pre-Inca Huanka (or Wanka) civilization. Some contemporary shamans belonging to the Huanka tradition do not use tools to make their small stone objects, but use plant extracts to dissolve the stone material (which contains calcite) and then pour the slurry into a mould where it hardens. He believes the same technique was used to make the earlier statues.14
While we are on the subject of building, according to Jewish tradition King Solomon used a “Shamir” to cut rocks in building the Temple in Jerusalem. The Shamir is traditionally referred to as being a worm. The word actually means a guard. In common Hebrew Shamir is also a plant with thistles.
Among the stories of building the Temple is the one about how King Solomon caught and utilized the Shamir. According to legend, the Shamir was used to cut the stone for building. In the story of King Solomon there was a bird that knew where the Shamir was. In order to catch it a piece of glass was placed over the nest. When the bird saw that the nest was blocked, it went and brought back the Shamir — and was able to break through it to the nest.
When we think about how people used their ideas, we find this story in the stories of King Solomon. The Shamir referred to, could in fact be a plant that was brought in by certain birds, and not a worm. It is easy to conclude that people assumed that it was a worm based on their knowledge of the fact that birds are known to carry and eat worms.