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Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by mayabong
Eventually it will just be Israel and America trying to say this isn't a good idea
And i think its apt that America stand by Israels side. They are two peas in the same pod.
As far as the pictures from Cast lead, I'm sure you can find them. As an American I didn't even really know the scope of it from the US media.
... and "[a]lthough proud of their Arab heritage and ancestry, the Palestinians considered themselves to be descended not only from Arab conquerors of the seventh century but also from indigenous peoples who had lived in the country since time immemorial, including the ancient Hebrews and the Canaanites before them."
Originally posted by ender_shadow
reply to post by backinblack
ummm.... no... it... doesn't...
in 1999, 2008 were all times that they were offered everything except what they claim as "the right of return" and said NO NO NO... so... I'm sorry mate... but you might need to get your facts in order.
Not to mention 1947 when the originally said no... and 1967 when the refused to negotiate (Khartum convention - look it up)...
Jimmy Carter's simple statement of the facts—November 2000
"An underlying reason that years of U.S. diplomacy have failed and violence in the Middle East persists is that some Israeli leaders continue to 'create facts' by building settlements in occupied territory...
"At Camp David in September 1978...the bilateral provisions led to a comprehensive and lasting treaty between Egypt and Israel, made possible at the last minute by Israel's agreement to remove its settlers from the Sinai. But similar constraints concerning the status of the West Bank and Gaza have not been honored, and have led to continuing confrontation and violence...
"[Concerning UN Resolution 242] Our government's legal commitment to support this well-balanced resolution has not changed...It was clear that Israeli settlements in the occupied territories were a direct violation of this agreement and were, according to the long-stated American position, both 'illegal and an obstacle to peace.' Accordingly, Prime Minister Begin pledged that there would be no establishment of new settlements until after the final peace negotiations were completed. But later, under Likud pressure, he declined to honor this commitment...
"It is unlikely that real progress can be made...as long as Israel insists on its settlement policy, illegal under international laws that are supported by the United States and all other nations.
"There are many questions as we contine to seek an end to violence in the Middle East, but there is no way to escape the vital one: Land or peace?" Former President Jimmy Carter in The Washington Post, November 26, 2000.