*2PAC*,Killed to Silence his Voice???..Was planning to speak out against Illuminati?

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posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by kaoticf8
Sort of like the whole john lennon thing, rumors about him being killed because he had so many people who listened to his music and the messages he spread. I wouldnt be surprised at all if he was killed to silence him, he was soooo influential with his music. If he was still around now he would release songs that would probably cause riots and protests against all sorts of establishments at the moment.



John Lennon was killed because he was going to go public about the death of the REAL Paul McCartney.
in 1966 Paul McCartney died in a car crash. MI5 stepped in and told the group they can not release this info to the public or a rash of suicides will happen. Therefore, they took another MI5 agent to use as a body double (plastic surgery and all) and that person is SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY. The only beatle knighted. The real members of the beatles referred to him as FAUL. (fake paul). George Harrison was also going to go public. THats why he was attacked and almost killed in his house.

WAKE UP PEOPLE. READ

www.paulreallyisdead.com




posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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The fact that Tupac had the word Illuminati in the title of one of his albums and was killed soon after does raise suspicions.

I've been researching the Illuminati for a few years now.
Read Proofs of a Conspiracy, by JOHN ROBISON, published in 1798.

The Rothsichilds did buy their way into the Masonic Lodges of Germany and the founder of the Illuminati (Adam Weisshaupt) was Jewish himself but raised by Jesuits.

The overall goal of the Rothschilds and their faction of Masons called the Illuminated ones was to overthrow the wealthy of the time, the Christian Monarchs and replace it with a Ponzi scheme aka Fractional Reserve Banking system that we have today. Where money is printed based upon nothing but debt.

The Last Christian Monarchy overthrown was Czar Nikolas of Russia by the Bolshevics. The Bolshevics a group funded by Paul Warburg, also was one of the guys who founded our Federal Reserve Bank.....as well as the Council on Foreign Relations with JP Morgan and John D. Rockefeller.

Getting back to Tupac.
As with MLK being against the Vietnam War and being killed, as well as Malcom X. Tupac had the potential, due to his popularity and the far reaching music industry to reach millions with his message.


We all know who controls the media....and....the recording industry. The same ones who control our Banks.

In Tupac's murder occuring soon after having released an album entitled in essence, "Kill+Illuminati" does make one wonder ?

For as we know in looking at our History there are several who have been assassinated and interestingly what they had in common is that they were outspoken against the agenda of the powers that be....basically those that control the money AND subsequently our Government. Simply look at who financed Obama. Goldman Sachs.

Abraham Lincoln - printed the greenback circumventing the Rothschild controlled banking establishment.
Andrew Jackson - had several attempts made upon his life for speaking out against the Banksters.
McKinley - First US President assassinated sought to print money backed by Gold.
JFK - Had recently signed Executive Order 11110 Allowing the Treasury to print money based upon silver again.
MLK - Was organizing an anti-war movement before he was gunned down...

Perhaps Tupac was gunned down before he could garner more support towards a move into politics as he was describing in his last few interviews ?
I don't even want to get into the connection with the JDL.....

Also, look at what recently happened to Glenn Beck for speaking out against them....he was recently fired.

As the old saying goes...History Repeats Itself.



The History and power of the Rotschilds
www.rense.com...

Rothschild and the Protocols of Zion
www.rense.com...

McKinley Assassination - by Bankers
webcache.googleusercontent.com...:ybeYFCLz4jIJ:engforum.pravda.ru/index.php%3F/topic/173660-assassination-of-president-mckinley-was -by-jews/+mckinley+assassination+jews&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by gdaub23
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thats what "they" would want you to believe and obviously you do...so I guess ot worked....why wouldnt "they" want someone like TUPAC out of their way early off in the beginning of their plans instead of waiting aroud and letting him come out against them?


And maybe in real life it was a grudge killing by another citizen, but then there's no real conspiracy there, is there? 100% more likely though isn't it?



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by something wicked


And maybe in real life it was a grudge killing by another citizen, but then there's no real conspiracy there, is there? 100% more likely though isn't it?


This, too, is my firm belief, that it was in fact a simple grudge killing.... but, whatever haha



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 01:11 PM
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There are a few interesting notes regarding this case that should be mentioned (if i've missed them already, my apologies in advance):

- There is a hidden message in the very beginning of Tupac's Makavelli album. Before the intro (Track 1), if you turn up the volume you can clearly hear Tupac saying "Suge shot me" (reference to Suge Knight, his producer-turned-private rival).

- When Tupac was shot, he was in the passenger seat and Suge was driving (there is a photo taken of the two of them minutes before they pulled off and were shot), yet the shooting car, supposedly, pulled up on Suge's side of the car, and Suge was barely grazed by a single shot while Tupac took numerous shots.

Those who know enough about Suge Knight know there are people afraid of him, for good reason. There have been rumors that he slapped Snoop in front of everyone working at Death Row records (when the first Dr Dre Chronic album came out), and reports that he held Vanilla Ice by the ankles off the top of a building, threatening to drop him unless he signed over the rights to "Ice Ice Baby".



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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could not agree more with u (...well not in the part of the pac saying on the record that suge shot him, i need to research that better...)
but i believe the man behind this is suge knight...it was clearly a good move of suge (kill him now and he will be a god of rap music and all the income goes to him...) i can go further and say that suge is behind the wallace murder too...



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by baraka
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could not agree more with u (...well not in the part of the pac saying on the record that suge shot him, i need to research that better...)
but i believe the man behind this is suge knight...it was clearly a good move of suge (kill him now and he will be a god of rap music and all the income goes to him...) i can go further and say that suge is behind the wallace murder too...


Yes, I was going to address that as well... The white mercedes with the gold trim, same rims and description, that the shooters of Notorious B.I.G. used to shoot him was found inside one of the businesses that Suge Knight owns in L.A.

Edit: Here's a link to the song I'm referring to, during the beginning, when the "white noise" gets louder, inside that noise, (turn the volume up) you can hear Tupac saying "Suge shot me"
www.youtube.com...

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posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 01:56 PM
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People who have never listened to a large portion of Tupac's songs have no idea how deep he was. How poetic he was. He is a modern master poet who used hip hop, which is essentially poetry to beats, to get his message across.

Keep in mind at the time, hip hop was turning into a political tool. Many young people were listening to hip hop that encouraged political realities that were not talked about much at the time.

It is clear to me, as an avid hip hop listener for over twenty years, that rap music took a clear and distinct change in direction after the death of Tupac.

True activism and infowar was replaced with shiny suit rappers.

"Poplar" Rap went into being about money, violence and frivolity.

Now don't get me wrong, many of Tupacs songs focused on this as well, but there was almost no level of political rap music performed by people at the top of the hip hop chain for many years after that.

I believe that hip hop did indeed threaten the powers that be. It was effectively neutralized.

Now it is a tool, just like popular music.

Tupac was really just getting started on this journey. Was he wrong about many elements of it, sure. But he didn't have ATS or Alex Jones and such to help him out.

If he would heave been allowed to live during 9/11 I guarantee he would have been trying to expose the truth on that very evening.

For those who think barely anyone knew or followed Tupac is clearly ignorant. Millions loved and still do love Tupac. A lyrical GENIUS who many feel is unrivaled in flow, style and substance to this day.

Just take a few minutes to look at all the # that went on that day he was killed and all the parties involved...

Las Vegas strip starts to look a lot like dealey plaza.
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posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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Description: this was on a casino in vegas envolving TB and SUGE, when TB confronted SUGE about did he killed 2pac...that was SUGE response...


Kind of makes you think about it...dont it?



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by gdaub23
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ALEX doesnt have even close to the anount of followers as TUPAC did and still does



Exactly, and Alex Jones is a schill. TPTB have to control BOTH SIDES of any conflict, how do they get people in a tissy? Have big mouth Alex Jones shoot his yapper off about a bunch of BS and get the idiots going on a rampage, then move in and claim they are terrorists or a threat to society.

I think Micheal Jackson was on to the plan too. As were others like Aaron Russo and more.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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I watched this video last night about Tupac. it got me thinking about making a thread on here about why he might have been murdered. its really interesting. he talks about how he was making changes personally and how the lower class communities need to make a change in themselves to better their futures. i think he had a very powerful message he wanted to spread.


its an outside link. i dont know how to embed the vid in the comment. www.worldstarhiphop.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Tupac Prison Interview



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by daddio

Originally posted by gdaub23
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ALEX doesnt have even close to the anount of followers as TUPAC did and still does



Exactly, and Alex Jones is a schill. TPTB have to control BOTH SIDES of any conflict, how do they get people in a tissy? Have big mouth Alex Jones shoot his yapper off about a bunch of BS and get the idiots going on a rampage, then move in and claim they are terrorists or a threat to society.

I think Micheal Jackson was on to the plan too. As were others like Aaron Russo and more.



The new "thing" seems to be that all mega superstars in the entertainment industry (especially music) are indebted to the devil. There are hundreds of youtube videos that address these issues-- from singers who make songs that appear to reflect their being rescued/helped by the devil (songs like Robin Thicke's "Magic" to Chris Brown's "Fallen Angel", and others). From all that I've seen and heard on that particular subject, there is something behind the scenes going on, surely... And IMO it is all linked to the Illuminati (not to mention the numerous devil worshippers who turn out to be Masons or suspected Illuminati).



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by jonibelle
Why is no one able to accept the fact that he got killed because he messed around with the "wrong person".
Why does there have to be a conspiracy wrapped around everything?
He beat up a gang member, then the gang member came back and got revenge. done and done.


Pac's music is a big part of SoCal, and I will admit I dont mind his "music"

But, I find it interesting how people are put on a pedestal once they're dead. This man was a gangster rapper. He was in it for MONEY. Not to submliminally change the world by educating people through music that actually makes the listener less intelligent.

The man was an admitted gang member, drug user, gun toter, womanizer, and often used his music to make direct threats of murder, rape, and robbery. Does this sound like someone who is trying to change the world for the better? Sure, he was changing HIS and his homies lives for the better, they were getting rich off the ability to speak smooth and coherent over a repetitive beat.

Music revolutionaries? Sure.

A potential whistle blower and presidential candidate? You've got to be kidding me.

A lot of people talk about secretive government groups, and "Illuminati." It doesnt matter, because the people who actually want to know already know. The general public is content with just letting their eyes glaze over, bob their heads and make the "westside" symbol in the mirror as the world turns......

If you want music that will wake you up and make you think, try Mozart. Chances are, if you're listening to gangsta rap you probably wont have the ability to focus on beautiful music for more than ten seconds or your head will explode.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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He was too real for many people. I have always admired him as an artists...people knew/know him for the music but he was an all round artist and a very intelligent induvidual.

Certainly with his latter poetry and opinions, he had made it known that he was interested in politics and I think that scared a lot of people.

Did he die for that? no one really knows, it could have well just been coincidence that he as killed, after all he did have a very real beef with Biggie and the east coast scene in general.

Either way, I think he would have become a very powerful figure had he still been around.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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Now ATS has taken a MAJOR blow for allowing posts like this.one. Majopr credibility issue now-ZERO credibility.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Furthermore, dont you EVER mention 2Pak in the same sentence with ROCK GOD John Lennon.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by LexMustReturn
Furthermore, dont you EVER mention 2Pak in the same sentence with ROCK GOD John Lennon.


Rock god John Lennon? Are you flippin serious? Its 2Pac or Tupac, if your going to insult the dead at least spell his name right. EVERY generation has their favorites not just yours.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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Tupac being a conspiracy theorist...hahaha he would of still been making records



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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We can post whatever we like to post as long as its in the T&C so if you dont like it go to a different thread



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by LexMustReturn
Now ATS has taken a MAJOR blow for allowing posts like this.one. Majopr credibility issue now-ZERO credibility.


So many things wrong with this. First off, would you mind saving the narrow-mindedness for elsewhere? Simply because you (obviously) find issue with Tupac, does not mean there is any problem with other people speaking on the subject.

Second, this board is viewed by many serious people, scientists, technicians, people in power. To say that the board has taken a major blow for allowing people to post on something they might consider a conspiracy goes against the VERY NATURE of this site... I'm sure you would disapprove if someone said that you must be working for some government-run disinformation campaign, simply because you feel the way you do, right?

Third, you should try to do your homework. It is established fact that Tupac's mother and father were associated with the Black Panthers. His godfather was a high ranking member. Anyone who knows anything about the early days of the FBI should know that they were deathly afraid of the ability of the Black Panthers to cause or incite a revolution, and may have conspired against them (J. Edgar Hoover, former head of the FBI, called the Black Panthers "the greatest threat to the internal security of the United States"). Also, there have been reports of Tupac being contacted by Black Panther members who were in hiding, asking for Tupac to "give them the go ahead to start the revolution."

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