*2PAC*,Killed to Silence his Voice???..Was planning to speak out against Illuminati?

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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 09:15 AM
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reply to post by Kingbreaker
 


Th others that have wirren books and oher things trying to spread the messege don have the same followers or as many as TUPAC...he reched out to the minorit groups where the others tend not to be able to get to...minority groupslike the african americans make up a big part of america and he was becoming something like a MALCOLM X or KING JR type of figure to them..




posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by Kingbreaker
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LOL seriously? one rapper speaks out on the nwo to a (at the time) minority market and suddenly he would endanger the entire scheme that was around long before he came around? and what about the countless others in the world who have, and even now, write books, and make videos on this subject. why not take them out too? no too many people are into thug life to care about tupacs message, else we would see something different today.


It sounds farfetched but who knows. Tupac had the ear of the next generation of citizens. Black, white, rich and poor. He made good music with a message and millions heard it. Sure he rapped about "thug life" but that's what he lived from day one. If he had more time who is to say that he wouldn't have started upping the ante with his message. The snowball effect is a very real thing. He had a certain credibility about him too.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 09:20 AM
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thanks for the thread. Tupac isnt dead though



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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the thing some of you here are not getting is 2pac was one of those people that when he spoke everyone paid attention....these kind of people only come along every so often in history...

thats the differents with 2 pac......he was a lion in the concrete jungle when he roared people took notice.




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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by jonibelle
Why is no one able to accept the fact that he got killed because he messed around with the "wrong person".
Why does there have to be a conspiracy wrapped around everything?
He beat up a gang member, then the gang member came back and got revenge. done and done.


I absolutely starred you for this. Spot on JoniBelle


Plus I would like to add to this, that it makes absolutely NO sense, even if I could entertain the thought.

Tupac stood for precisely what the Illuminati stood for..... embracing MULTIPLE thought not just one.

For some reason I get the impression that some of you people have not even researched Illuminati and view it this way:

Illuminati = Big Government and Big Government Cover-ups.


The Illuminati were a group of scientists who were attempting to embrace the idea of science in conjunction with religion. But religion (most specifically Catholicism) would not have that, and instead started eliminating them (murdering them).



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 09:25 AM
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There is another thread a few down from mine where yu can have that argument...its what reminded of certain things about tupac and its why i started it...if thats what you believe then more power to ya



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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I firmly believe he was silenced because he was going to speak out. He makes references to them in almost every single one of his songs. Not to mention there are all sorts of question marks surrounding his death. One of which i have first hand experience with. I have family and friends that are muslims (no not the terrorist types) and one belief in the muslim religion is that you do not allow your body to be cremated upon death. Well what happens very soon after Tupac is found dead....he is cremated. For those of you that dont know Tupac lived under the Muslim religion the last years of his life. So to me that is a conspiracy as to whether or not he is alive. So is this link here....



www.youtube.com...



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 09:27 AM
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that's a reach, comparing tupac to MLKjr , the latter had a real message, he had a real motivation, and he succeeded. If anything tupac was a genius in marketing, setting himself apart from all the others in the same genre. if he had/would have had an impact on society, it would seem short lived my friend, much like his life.

tupac is dead, and he died playing the game. hell KRS-one was the real pioneer on all these things tupac talked about, but hes still around. KRS-ONE wiki

KRS-ONE = Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 09:29 AM
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I have one major problem with this theory: How could a common street thug like Tupac obtain any kind of inside information on a secretive organization such as the Illuminati?

Let's face it. Tupac was a street thug who talked trash about other gangs. One of the thugs took offense and capped Tupac. Remember, the Illuminati are the "illuminated ones"....street thugs don't qualify.

On that note, I will say that I enjoyed some of the thug's music.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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all i know is the Illuminati has something to do with things in one way or the other....if 2PAC were still alive he would be bigger than anyone else out there..he would take all the minority groups under him and not just select few like lets say VENTURA who I bet most of the people who follow him are white...2pac would bring a whole new element to the table...



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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the "thug image was only something that he used to gain popularity...he really wasnt that way at all...he used to reach out to the real thugs to try and send them messages that otherwise they wouldnt have listened to



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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yes most people probably would have followed him, like so many who follow Obama. The Illuminati would not have cared about what was said by tupac simply because while his message may have reached millions, there were millions and millions he did not. the Illuminati were an archaic concept back then i believe.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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Since you claim to be familiar with the theories and to have discounted them all, can you please explain what some of them are and how you successfully debunked them, particularly the one about Sug Knight?



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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It's obvious you do not know what you're talking about. Sorry, but this is just ignorant nonsense. You clearly have only the vaguest familiarity with the situation and are just imposing your pre-existing biases on the very very little you know about the man.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 10:39 AM
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Pretty simple, dont know why you are aiming this at me when you could work that out for yourself in a few seconds of thought, Oh yeah you dont want to believe, All these 'conspiricy theorists' are labelled as as i just said conspiricy theorists or 'crazies'. Tupac was an influential artist and people will listen to what he has to say even if they only admire his music, if you can get someone behind a cause that isnt going to benefit the illuminati, you are there enemy, and regardless of who you are, you will be silenced.

Oh and i bet you think they didnt kill MJ........



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 10:44 AM
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No offense but this is ludicrous.

Tupac died because he was going to leave death row with Dre and Mr. Knight knows a dead artist is worth more than a live one.

Ask Diddy.

Peace



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Vanishr

Oh and i bet you think they didnt kill MJ........


You sure it wasn't the panthers....maybe they didn't realize he wasnt REALLY white



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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you say no offense but call the ideas i brought up ridiculas...why is it so hard for some people to have imagination? its like some choose the easiest answers and figure that they are true...no offense but i find it ridiculas that some people arent more opened minded about some things...theres always those that will look at the "evidence or proof" they are given and agree with it
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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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So when 2PAC got arrested for being high on crack and shooting his gun in the middle of the street he was fighting the illuminati? So when his mom got arrested for trying to blow up buildings in NY befor 2PAC was born she was fighting the illuminati? Does that mean you have to bea crack addict like them to be freedom fighters against the illuminati?

Even though you were a crack fein momma, you were allways a black queen momma?



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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lol. I said ludicrous which is not exactly the same but OK.


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