Why was it again that God is not helping the ones in need?, page 5
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reply posted on 24-4-2011 @ 10:02 AM by awake_and_aware
reply to post by NOTurTypical



What an absolute load of nonsense.

They don't "SEARCH" for God? Are you joking right? Disease ridden tribes in Africa? Idiots wern't searching for God?

“Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"”


Many people don't know of God, and have never thought of a creator - You're going to condemn them because they arn't "searching" for God. This is what sickens me about the arrogance of a belief in God.


reply posted on 24-4-2011 @ 11:35 AM by NOTurTypical
reply to post by awake_and_aware



NEWSFLASH:

People do in fact "search" for God.

And usually it's in times of dire need, not in times of joy and contentment.



Many people don't know of God, and have never thought of a creator - You're going to condemn them because they arn't "searching" for God.


I don't "condemn" anyone, I can't see the future. I have no idea what a person will do with Jesus during their life.



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reply posted on 24-4-2011 @ 12:40 PM by autowrench
reply to post by zatara




First I thought the reasons why God is not present to help the ones in desperate need is because it all has to do with seperating the good souls from the evil ones. But that is no reason to turn a blind eye to the ones in need......I give up... Someone...?


I haven't read through all of the replies. However, that which we call "God," is not a man who sits up there and directs everything on Earth. If just one time God would intervene, for one person, that act would negate free will forever. It sounds to me like you have been reading too much into this, friend. All human beings have free will, and are an immense power. A lot of times when a prayer is supposedly answered, it is really human will doing it. Hope this has answered your question.



reply posted on 24-4-2011 @ 01:10 PM by 0zzymand0s
reply to post by zatara



Well -- there are almost as many beliefs as there are believers. so if you are looking for "Thee Answer," you are probably out of luck.

I personally believe that the thing which we call god (as opposed to the entity worshiped by most religious people) is a macro-level entity that cannot directly know or perceive experiences at the micro-level. In the most basic sense, we were created to operate at this level because "god" cannot. Therefore, all experience -- good, bad or otherwise -- is novel experience to "god."

Since we cannot know "god" directly while incarnated in a physical body, we can only guess at its perspective and motivations. Overall -- I think the experience is positive for "both" of us, in the sense that the god / individual paradigm is a learning mechanism for building better "realities" over time.

Nothing you are can be created or destroyed. "You" were born in the nuclear fires of long dead stars, and you will one day return to them. We are divided for the sake of "love" and for a chance at "union."

Life -- as short and violent and bitter as it may be for many -- is also glorious and rich in experiences of beauty, music, light and a million other sensory / spiritual sensations.

The sense of separation you feel from god is both real and illusion. It is how god comes to know itself and experience its true multiversal nature.


reply posted on 7-5-2011 @ 12:14 PM by awake_and_aware
reply to post by pccat



What you "believe." It might be "truth" to you but it's not the truth that most scientists care about.

It's just speculation and wishful thinking. There is no just God, there is no caring force, there is no prayer/wish system that any human can use. There only is, what there is, if there was a God, why would Atheism even exist?


reply posted on 7-5-2011 @ 12:14 PM by awake_and_aware
reply to post by pccat



What you "believe." It might be "truth" to you but it's not the truth that most scientists care about.

It's just speculation and wishful thinking. There is no just God, there is no caring force, there is no prayer/wish system that any human can use. There only is, what there is, if there was a God, why would Atheism even exist?
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