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Originally posted by dalan.
reply to post by Praetorius
You do get at my general point, though, in that HOW to follow that law (as well as addressing specific mandates within it) is up for further review, on my part at least. By definition, sin is transgression of the law, and Christ never referred to giving any new law.
Only a fool uses something like the Bible as a tool for establishing any law. It doesn't matter what the Bible says, its all irrelevant whether its the Old or New Testaments.
Originally posted by halfoldman
reply to post by lastrebel
Where did Jesus over-ride such laws upon His death?
but many gentiles did not want to follow the dietery laws or go through the painful and risky surgery of adult circumcision.
But then, rather conveniently, Peter went into a trance and interpreted a rather disputable vision as doing away with all dietery restrictions (Acts 10:9-16).
Of course the early church continued to follow the law. The apostles and the early church were Jews. That's how they grew up and were raised. But for gentiles these traditions don't apply.
Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
I think that its time for those that are "representatives" of the "word" should realize that this is deemed as wrong because of the actions that it represents! Stop picking and choosing what you think that god said, and either stand by it or move on. You cannot be taken seriously if you cannot be behind your faith.. whether you like the repercussions or not.
Stop blaming the O.T, or the so called misrepresentation, that only "you" can understand. This is a book and word of violence. It always has been and always has be.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
If you believe that Jesus had a divine message, you believe him. The problem is that Paul came along and changed a bunch of stuff, and made being Christian a whole lot easier by promising Jesus did it all for you. And................thats not what Jesus says. Jesus gives you a whole lotta work to do, and he says it will be hard, and that only a few will take that harder narrow path.
Your pastor is following Pauline doctrine. If I had to lay bets with my immortal soul, I would follow Jesus and take that harder, narrower road less traveled of trying to live as Jesus lived, and do as he asked us to do. But thats just me.
Originally posted by halfoldman
I read that a 17-year-old US man murdered a 70-year-old man, because the older man had allegedly solicited on the younger, but the youngster believed God justified him in beating the old man to death.
There is no proof about what the old man did.
Whatever the case, the defendant is clearly called a "man", and he was not a child.
A 28 year-old Philadelphia-area man admitted he stoned to death a 70 year-old man because the Bible says to stone homosexuals. John Joe Thomas reportedly killed Murray Joseph Seidman, whom he knew, and told police, “I stoned Murray with a rock in a sock,” because he had read in the Bible that gays should be stoned.
According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, “The young man and Seidman were often seen together grocery shopping and going to church,” and “He then described how he placed batteries and rocks in a sock, and hit Seidman in the head at least 10 times.”
Think about this. Gays are being stoned to death in 21st century America. Actually, we don’t even know if the man who was stoned was gay, but his murderer thought he wasedit on 21-4-2011 by halfoldman because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by JerryB08
. I believe in Jesus. However in every book you have to take in account that humans are wretched beings and I'm sure the authors added or edited or miss translated what was useful to them.
Then one of them, [which was] a lawyer, asked [him a question], tempting him, and saying, Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.