Well, if unwanted advances are an excuse to kill people, then why not Exodus 22:18?

Though shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Now, for Biblical literalism, or people who argue that the Bible is so wonderful and just, I'm wondering: Jesus said the laws of Moses stay.
So why have you stopped killing witches and gays?
It only stopped fairly recently, but what made those verses suddenly metaphorical, rather than literal?
Was it a sudden insight?

This is an example of what happens when people read the bible by themselves instead of the cookie cutter version they give you in sunday school. Suprisingly they always seem to leave the bad parts out when they indoctrinate you as a child.

It looks like this kid was one of the few who read it on his own. So much for the "God" of love and understanding hmm?

King

I believe there is nothing Holy in killing people. To combine the two is well in my opinion is just stone age mentality. Which some cultures strive to be in. I believe in God but I don't believe the Bible word for word all of these holy books to me are just the earliest types of government and wicked humans trying to manipulate people. I think it's arrogance on the part of humans to think they can speak for god. I classify myself as a christian. I believe in Jesus. However in every book you have to take in account that humans are wretched beings and I'm sure the authors added or edited or miss translated what was useful to them.

How can you have a religion that you have faith in and not be able to figure out right from wrong. The lord says in bible vengeance is mine. well wouldn't those two statements contradict themselves. My personal beliefs are. God will take care of Gay's and Witches if he doesn't want them to exists. Why would he need his children to help him? also why would he create the Gay's and the Witches? Maybe the world leaders didn't like the witches because they scared them. Heck who knows maybe the witches are Angels that god blessed to do his bidding. Do I know that they are evil? No I never met one. Just food for thought. Anyone who murders for religion is a fraud. They certainly won't be in my heaven. lol

Originally posted by halfoldman
Now, for Biblical literalism, or people who argue that the Bible is so wonderful and just, I'm wondering: Jesus said the laws of Moses stay.

No

The laws of Moses were overriden by the law of Jesus upon his death. The Old Testament laws no longer apply....thats why we eat pork, etc.

I think that its time for those that are "representatives" of the "word" should realize that this is deemed as wrong because of the actions that it represents! Stop picking and choosing what you think that god said, and either stand by it or move on. You cannot be taken seriously if you cannot be behind your faith.. whether you like the repercussions or not.

Stop blaming the O.T, or the so called misrepresentation, that only "you" can understand. This is a book and word of violence. It always has been and always has be.

Peace, NRE.

Well, if we still followed the old Jewish laws there would be a lot of killing going on.

Parents killing their children:

All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

and

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Fortune tellers:

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Adulterers:

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Any non-believers:

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Women that are not virgins when they get married:

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

People that work on Sunday:

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

Wow. At this pace I don't see many people making it to the end of the week, so I'm going to stop while we're ahead...



We don't follow the Old Testament’s laws anymore. For good reason. The main reason probably because people randomly followed/follows that suit their needs...

Its too late/early for me to post the verses tonight but if no one beats me to it I will look them up tomorrow

Originally posted by lastrebel
Its too late/early for me to post the verses tonight but if no one beats me to it I will look them up tomorrow

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)