Westboro Babtist Church Tries to Disrupt Marine's Funeral & Gets Owned!!

finally, some justice done. I hope this happens everywhere ! While I don't wish i'll on anyone, sometimes enough is enough. The people were tolerant the first few years, but seriously, to do this to a fallen soldier is degradable and offensive. Karma won in the end.

Originally posted by Buddha1098
Correct.. So these people should have been allowed to protest and then they should have been arrested and prosecuted.

Actually, I think they should just have the decency to let us bury our dead......................

I think that when someone reacts to what they are doing they should be charged for inciting it as well as the person who reacts to them. Let the juries sort it out. I'm sure the decent people of this country should decide what should be tolerated and what won't.

Here's the thing about arresting the WBC nuts and prosecuting them...the Supreme Court has already heard a case involving them and they have already stated that WBC has a constitutional right to do exactly what they are doing.

The First Amendment protects the right of the Westboro Baptist Church to hold anti-gay protests outside military funerals, the Supreme Court ruled Tuesday. The 8-1 ruling backs an appeals court decision to throw out a $5 million victory for Albert Snyder, who sued the fundamentalist church after its members picketed his son's funeral.

The Supreme Court ruled that the right to free speech protects Phelps and his church members to express their opinions during military and other high-profile funerals.

www.npr.org...

Here is the full opinion (it's lengthy): www.supremecourt.gov...

Anyhow, arresting them and prosecuting them for something the SCOTUS has already declared constitutional is futile. Really, the best bet is to push for an amendment to the constitution that prohibits actions such as WBC.

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reply to post by kinnerarity

Actually, I think they should just have the decency to let us bury our dead......................

And that's the heart of the matter. Well said.

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I guess this means i can go to obama's funeral when he dies and post signs such as "god hates black presidents" and the such, correct?

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I personally want them to be able to say what they want to say. I have no problem with that. I just dont think they have the right to traumatize some poor family trying to lay their loved one to rest. Im surprised no grieving family member has snapped and run them down with a semi truck, personally. They have no human decency. And while they have the right to speak their mind, other human beings have the right to go right up to the borderline of the law to protect other people from being abused by them.

Maybe its just me then. Maybe I'm the only person who can see it. Every single counter protest is full of people spewing real hate at them. Swearing and bricking them with violence on loads of video. But

Have you ever heard the Phelps swear in public? Have you? Have you tried to understand their perspective?

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Yeah, I'df tried to understand how a loving god hates fags.....
I dont see it

reply to post by Buddha1098


Warped, yes. Things are not only black or white, no matter who would have us believe they are. People need to keep that in mind, too. Who was it that said "a person is smart. People are stupid".

I choose to be a person. I treasure our freedom of speech, but also know there is place to draw the line. "A person", knows this, while some "people" will never understand it. It's a matter of using your own brain in determining what is right, and what is not. There are abuses of our system, and this is one of them.

NY is currently looking at a law to stop protesting at military funerals.
I'll see if I can find the link.

.Senate Passes Legislation to Limit Protests at Military Funerals
“The Specialist Thomas Wilwerth Military Dignity Act”

The New York State Senate today passed legislation (S.3901), sponsored by Senator Lee Zeldin (R,C,I- Shirley), that would limit protests at military funerals. Called “The Specialist Thomas Wilwerth Military Dignity Act,” the proposed law is named for an Iraq War Veteran who lost his life in combat in 2006.

Dated March 2011.

Link:www.nysenate.gov...

Maybe you'll feel better about it, once behaving decently has a legal seal of approval.
This is more than just hurting someone's feelings.

Originally posted by HomerinNC
reply to post by Aggie Man

 

I guess this means i can go to obama's funeral when he dies and post signs such as "god hates black presidents" and the such, correct?

You could do it now, but I'm sure you are going to have your rights violated and be detained by the secret service..................... :-) Supreme Court verdict or NOT.

Leave it to my home state to have the gonads to actually stand up to these hatemongers. You don't screw with country boys. If you play with fire, you're gonna get burned. I'm all for free speech, but this was a coordinated group effort by the community and when a community comes together to prevent hateful individuals from disrupting a funeral, you can't call it anything but right. If it had been a cop or other law enforcement agent who beat the guy and then prevented them from doing their protests, it would be illegal and against free speech. But this was a group effort by civilians, standing up to say, "We aren't going to take this s#."

Makes me proud to be from Mississippi.

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double standard then.....real nice

reply to post by Aggie Man

best bet is to push for an amendment to the constitution that prohibits actions such as WBC.

You are most likely an agent trying to rally people in to stifling freedom of speech. If you're not an agent then it's foolish to blurt out anti freedom messages.

The community pulled together and stopped the Westboro Baptist Church. What a wonderful thing. I don't see how it could possibly be violation of free speech. They never got a chance. Phelps and company were going to violate the community's standards. Looks like they got preempted. Way cool.

Originally posted by DanUKphd
reply to post by Aggie Man

 

best bet is to push for an amendment to the constitution that prohibits actions such as WBC.

You are most likely an agent trying to rally people in to stifling freedom of speech. If you're not an agent then it's foolish to blurt out anti freedom messages.

LOL. I didn't say I supported such an idea, in fact, I do not. I'm merely point the way for those that would want to limit our speech. If folks don't like what WBC does, then that is the challenge they face. It's a fact, not a rallying of people.

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The community pulled together and stopped the Westboro Baptist Church. What a wonderful thing

And the community stopped the message of the WBC by posting all over the internet for millions more people to see and hear about the message. Way to go. Yay.

Originally posted by HomerinNC
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double standard then.....real nice

No double standard at all. I think they should be able to say whatever they believe, as long as they are not doing it to cause other people direct emotional distress. Say it at Wal Mart. Say it at the airport. Say it at the public swimming pool. Say it at the beach. But have the common decency to leave greiving families alone. WHEN they start a fight, it will be WBC that provoked it by being there and running their trashy mouths. I think they should be held accountable.

If they cannot respect common decency, then state governments should make laws prohibiting disturbing the peace of funerals.

Lets look at another example. Burning the Quran. Go ahead and burn the Quran on the church lawn if you are excercising your freedom of speech. I don't agree with that either but hey - if that's what floats your boat it is your right to do so. NOW - if you were standing outside a muslim funeral burning the Quran I would say that you are violating THEIR peace as well. I would express the same outrage.