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Originally posted by CosmosKid
reply to post by Terrorist
No one seems to care when my "innocent" people get killed by someone with a an agenda.
[...] my innocent people were US citizens so, they could not possibly be "innocent" right? [...]
I'm an American citizen, so to the citizens of every other country in this world, that automatically makes them believe I'm evil and I'm guilty. So be it.
I believe in avenging my "innocent" friends and countryman.
I am entitled to kill as many of them as I posissbly can to kee my country and my fellow citizens safe.
[...] I know the there is a difference bewtween warfare and crime, but my enemies don't seem to want to play by those same rules. Great.
[...] When we reach that day who's really gonna care anymore anyway! I just want to do whatever it takes to ensure that we win. At all costs.
Originally posted by HomerinNC
Well he is still a criminal NO MATTER what ANYONE says,
Originally posted by HomerinNC
he released classified material to unauthorized persons.
A traitor and a scumbag in my book
One day, some of you will realize that, if you take something thats not yours to take, or not yours to release, you WILL be punished.
Its not the fact of what the material was, it was the fact he wasnt AUTHORIZED to release it
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Vanishr
The only 'political scandal' involved here is jailing a freedom of speech activist, who tried to warn people of the horrible truths of the government.
"Freedom of Speech" doesn't include theft and release of classified documents or files.
Originally posted by CosmosKid
reply to post by SaturnFX
Yes, you can refuse to execute an order if you believe it is unlawfull. You will also have to prove the order was unlawfull. what Manning did wasn't so much in regards to "orders" and was more to do with personal accountability. He could have turned the information over to internal agencies thus utiluizing the chain of command to start an investigation. Instead, he chose to compromise the information with external entities hostile to and who have the intent of harming the United States of America. You know, folks like Hillary Clinton. So he willingly and without remorse endagered the national security of the US by choosing to work with it's enemies instead of going thru the chain of command. The information he divulged isn't his to do so with and he agreed to that before he was given access to it. When it comes out that he enlisted specifically to betray his country on behalf of his accomplises, he's gonna get life behind bars, at the minimum.
Manning had more than adequate reason to be concerned about handing over Iraqi citizens for likely torture simply for producing pamphlets about corruption in a government notorious for its corruptness. Like any good soldier, Manning immediately took these concerns up the chain of command. And how did his superiors respond? His commanding officer told him to “shut up” and get back to rounding up more prisoners for the Iraqi Federal Police to treat however they cared to.
Now, you have already heard what the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff had to say about an American soldier’s duties when confronted with the torture and abuse of prisoners. Ever since our country signed and ratified the Geneva Conventions and the Convention against Torture, it has been the law of our land that handing over prisoners to a body that will torture them is a war crime. Nevertheless, between early 2009 and August of last year, our military handed over thousands of prisoners to the Iraqi authorities, knowing full well what would happen to many of them. The next time Pfc. Manning encountered evidence of war crimes, he took a different course of action.
Originally posted by Terrorist
How can you be on this website yet still defend the U.S.?
I'm not talking about crime, I'm talking about war, which is what Manning was getting paid to do.
Originally posted by freakjive
Originally posted by Terrorist
How can you be on this website yet still defend the U.S.?
Because I love my country and the ideals/freedoms and Constitution that we were founded on.edit on 4/21/2011 by freakjive because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by freakjive
reply to post by purplemer
Perhaps you should reread my statement:
"I love my country and the ideals/freedoms and Constitution that we were founded on."
I never said anything about defending our government nor the elitest agenda driving our actions.
Originally posted by JerryB08
reply to post by PsykoOps
Umm the man he released them too. Mr. Wikki leaks admitted he got the classified documents from manning. look on you tube. There's video of As sage talking about Manning
China and Russia got most of the oil contracts for Iraq. What oil has the US stolen from whom? I recommend doing some research so you know what's really going on and not depend on DailyKos of Huffpo as they will always take the left-handed path. And please remember that BP is Rothschilds, so you can kick their azz for me any day of the week.
The Banking Law was issued September 19, 2003. The law brings Iraq’s legal framework for banking in line with international standards, and seeks to promote confidence in the banking system by establishing a safe, sound, competitive and accessible banking system.
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Originally posted by HomerinNC
which is what he deserves
He's a traitor and a disgrace to his uniform
Are you a zombie?
Isn't taking the sons and daughters of this country to a war based on lies and that is bankrupting this country way wayyy more treasonous?
How come with people like you accountability should only be present on "we the people" and NEVER the powers that be?
What a slave mentality
You are a slave trying to yell at others saying do not betray your slave masters.
It's 2011, we keep having wars based on lies and people like you still exist??????
It's 2011, we keep having wars based on lies and people like you still exist??????
Texti think its hypocritical to benefit what we do and then condemn them. do not like us foreign policy stop using the technology and products and goods and services that have come from here.
TextNo one seems to care when my "innocent" people get killed by someone with a an agenda. No one seems to care that they didin't get weepy and decide they should blow the whistle on they're political, military and spiritual leaders. But then again, that would be because my innocent people were US citizens so, they could not possibly be "innocent" right? . I personallty don't care what you find shocking. I'm an American citizen, so to the citizens of every other country in this world, that automatically makes them believe I'm evil and I'm guilty. So be it. I believe in avenging my "innocent" friends and countryman. I believe that if the folks that are so righteous and believe that killing US citizens is a direct order from some nut job holy dude or whatever that's ok! they're entitled to believe that if they want. I am entitled to kill as many of them as I posissbly can to kee my country and my fellow citizens safe. I'm entitled to believe what I want to. What I'm saying to you is that I know the there is a difference bewtween warfare and crime, but my enemies don't seem to want to play by those same rules. Great. Fine. Eventually, one side ot the other will win. So what. When we reach that day who's really gonna care anymore anyway! I just want to do whatever it takes to ensure that we win. At all costs. Permanently.
Dear Mr. President we honor you today sir
Each of us brought you $5,000
It takes a lot of Benjamins to run a campaign
I paid my dues, where's our change?
We'll vote for you in 2012, yes that's true
Look at the Republicans - what else can we do
Even though we don't know if we'll retain our liberties
In what you seem content to call a free society
Yes it's true that Terry Jones is legally free
To burn a people's holy book in shameful effigy
But at another location in this country
Alone in a 6x12 cell sits Bradley
23 hours a day is night
The 5th and 8th Amendments say this kind of thing ain't right
We paid our dues, where's our change?