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They Thought You Wouldn't Notice (Part One) ...

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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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Thought I'd take a second to share some interesting stuff compiled over the years from a very informed researcher...

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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 09:01 AM
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In some of these pics it just shows what we already know, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and artists like to joke by coping others works out of context. hell we used a version of the Nazi eagle on our scout t shirt one year as a joke to see if the scout leaders would notice what we did, lol they didnt



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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the star of david on the dollar is one that screams the "debunked" protocols of zion. which coincedentally have played out exactly like what was not "real".

the federal reserve is controlled by what i refer to as "bad guy jews", since my granny was jewish and good, but they are just the money changers. They are the money launderers for the monarchs/royal families which have all the gold and therefore make all the rules. any idiot who thinks they weren't always plotting to take away the freedom which the peasants fought and won are delusional.

we the people did not take away their "gold"; therefore the elites still had the power and just allowed the freed peasants to turn theirselves into "pinocchio donkeys" through things like Nascar, public fool system, MSM, etc..

most kids in my elementary classes were REALLY DUMB!!. the teacher would tell about the "he who has the gold makes the rules", then switch into "america is great because we won our freedon from the king". myself and this one other little girl in our class were the only 2 that raised our hands and disected the whole "freedumd" scam. although we couldn't fully explain it, we knew something didn't fit.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by rebeldog
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the star of david on the dollar is one that screams the "debunked" protocols of zion. which coincedentally have played out exactly like what was not "real".

the federal reserve is controlled by what i refer to as "bad guy jews", since my granny was jewish and good, but they are just the money changers. They are the money launderers for the monarchs/royal families which have all the gold and therefore make all the rules. any idiot who thinks they weren't always plotting to take away the freedom which the peasants fought and won are delusional.

we the people did not take away their "gold"; therefore the elites still had the power and just allowed the freed peasants to turn theirselves into "pinocchio donkeys" through things like Nascar, public fool system, MSM, etc..

most kids in my elementary classes were REALLY DUMB!!. the teacher would tell about the "he who has the gold makes the rules", then switch into "america is great because we won our freedon from the king". myself and this one other little girl in our class were the only 2 that raised our hands and disected the whole "freedumd" scam. although we couldn't fully explain it, we knew something didn't fit.



well said sir...



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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You're kidding me right? Seriously the views of some people to just take one image and run with it. First of this is all horridly anti-Semitic, anti-Masonic and anti-Catholic! There's context and other things to look at here shall we go through a few of these?

Michelangelo's Prophet Isiah and Rockwell's Rosie The Riveter: Norman Rockwell was a great painter and heavily influenced by the European Masters, this is a classical pose and could very well be a homage to Michelangelo. We see this all the time in art, one artist giving a tip of the hat to those that came before. Nothing at all wrong with this.

The so-called Nazi salute has deep history in western religion, it was corrupted by the Nazis as were almost all of their other symbols. To take the meaning of a symbol is to have power over it. Traditionally the arm forward as such was a sign of blessing and honor, that has changed and so has the salute to the American Flag when reciting the US Pledge. On top of this real socialists and Nazis hated each other, with passion. Hitler rounded up the real German socialists and imprisoned most of them later shipping many to concentration camps.

The six-pointed star has not always been directly linked to the Jewish faith. In the late-1700s there was a large trend for esoteric images. The all-seeing-eye, pyramids, six-pointed stars and later pentagrams were all really cool designs at the time, very in-fashion. The American Flag was even supposed to originally have had six-pointed stars instead of five-pointed ones. Why? Well because that was what was stylish at the time.

The key-shape at the Vatican, well that's cool really. It could be intentional too, religion as the key to understanding or something, neat idea. As for the circle in St. Peter's Square looking like the Union Jack, well wow that is a big, big stretch. We're not even majority Catholic here in the UK, we left a long time ago. Besides by that logic I could say that anything with the 8-spoke design is sworn loyal to the Crown? What, no that's just insane.

Masonic baking soda? If it is a Masonic conspiracy to tell everyone that a box of baking soda in your fridge makes your food smell fresher that has to be the single weakest attempt at global control ever. Get serious already.

Masonic workers liberation movements and universities? Eh, why not it's possible there are Freemasons everywhere in every walk of life, the arm with the hammer looks cool, if i was a mason (I'm not but much of my family is) I'd share the design around a bit. It shows strength and hard work, good values.

The real outrage with Paul and Jan Crouch, if that caption is in fact correct is that they are making so damn much a year! Whatever happened to religion being the bastion of charity for the less-fortunate, instead of making ministers rich?

Why OP, did you feel the need to add that last photo of Pope Benedict? I don't even see how it fits except to show your own anti-Catholic feelings. I'm not a Catholic myself but really when it comes to the Pope in European politics, nobody since Tony Blair has really cared at all what he has to say. The idea he could take away Europe's freedom is completely laughable and shows a distinct lack of understanding of power dynamics on the part of the person that made that image.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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By your third sentence, does this imply that you are Semitic, Masonic, and Catholic?

The six-pointed star has nothing to do with the Jewish origin- It is the star of saturn and it's been around for a long time.
This, and the famous salute, in my opinion, is all reminiscent of how the brotherhood of saturn has crept into the US (and the rest of the world). The Nazis were heavy into that as well.

The key-shape seems to me to be the secret behind knowing that the vatican has controlled Europe for 1400 years.

The arm & hammer deal is just another example of symbols being used right in front of everyone when they don't know it. As I once heard someone say, if you don't think symbols are important, then go walk into a synagogue wearing a swastika and see what happens (I know, that symbol's not german origin either).
Compare the soviet coat of arms to Obama's new campaign logo. Actually many surrounding countries over there share a similar symbol.

That last picture is in there because it was on the source's page and it is the creepiest damn picture of a pope I've ever seen! If you don't think that the vatican is powerful, I don't know what to say.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by rstregooski
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By your third sentence, does this imply that you are Semitic, Masonic, and Catholic?

The six-pointed star has nothing to do with the Jewish origin- It is the star of saturn and it's been around for a long time.
This, and the famous salute, in my opinion, is all reminiscent of how the brotherhood of saturn has crept into the US (and the rest of the world). The Nazis were heavy into that as well.

The key-shape seems to me to be the secret behind knowing that the vatican has controlled Europe for 1400 years.

The arm & hammer deal is just another example of symbols being used right in front of everyone when they don't know it. As I once heard someone say, if you don't think symbols are important, then go walk into a synagogue wearing a swastika and see what happens (I know, that symbol's not german origin either).
Compare the soviet coat of arms to Obama's new campaign logo. Actually many surrounding countries over there share a similar symbol.

That last picture is in there because it was on the source's page and it is the creepiest damn picture of a pope I've ever seen! If you don't think that the vatican is powerful, I don't know what to say.


Saying that the six-pointed-star is a direct reference to the Brotherhood of Saturn is even younger that the association with the Jewish faith. The Brotherhood of Saturn, or FS was founded in 1928 by Eugen Grosche, while the Star of David has been associated with the Jewish Faith since the 1600s. Even then though the symbol itself is far older of course, and has had a wide variety of applications over the centuries.

The salute also is far older than the FS, being commonly called the "Roman Salute" although it is probably an invention of French Neo-Classical artists and adapted from the old two-handed version used when giving mass blessings in Christian churches. The Nazis themselves did not even adapt it to fascism, they lifted it off of the Italian Fascists whom in turn used it to link their new "empire" with that of Rome.

As for Catholicism, the church has a huge amount of influence globally, but not so much in Europe. The EU in general is becoming more atheistic and the fallout of the Protestant reformation with the resulting splintering of the Christian faiths still has many lingering tensions in Europe. Only in the past ten years have the Northern Irish generally stopped killing each other over that one in large numbers.

The Vatican did indeed control Europe for a very long time, but that is no longer the case. Economics, more than religion is the ruling issue in the EU right now.

Symbolism is indeed quite powerful, but the understanding of their meaning and history is vitally important too.

For the record, I am neither Jewish, Catholic or a Freemason. I am actually a Zen Buddhist and a member of several professional organizations and fraternal orders but the only social ones I belong to are based upon familial association and are inherited titles.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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Saying that the six-pointed-star is a direct reference to the Brotherhood of Saturn is even younger that the association with the Jewish faith. The Brotherhood of Saturn, or FS was founded in 1928 by Eugen Grosche, while the Star of David has been associated with the Jewish Faith since the 1600s.
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Ahh.. But I didn't say that, at least I didn't mean to imply it as a reference to the brotherhood, that's why I wrote that before it. Perhaps I should have specified. I know the star of saturn goes way back to ancient times. Saturn was a god. I've heard it attributed to saturn that:
"Women were to listen to their god, so they should wear ear-Rings. Men were to get married before their god so , they were to wear wedding Rings. Kings were to get crowned before their god so they were to wear a round crown, the corona, the Ring. They always knew saturn had rings".

Some attribute this to why some people's day of worship is Saturday.

And I realize the salute is far older, I just find it interesting where this shows up throughout history. Hell, I realize the Nazi cross symbol goes way back as well, but again it shows up in modern day Christianity!






The Vatican did indeed control Europe for a very long time, but that is no longer the case. Economics, more than religion is the ruling issue in the EU right now.


Economics 101 teaches that human beings are motivated by self-interest. This is actually the first day lesson in any economics college course. And when control = profit, then you see the power. Religion, and the most powerful religious institution most likely based at the vatican, take in billions of dollars, and they pay NO taxes.

What I am amazed at (and I can't blame folks, I didn't always know), is the meaning of certain words that aren't questioned. Example, the word "Holocaust" by definition means A Sacrificial Burnt Offering. What's all that about? Perhaps there's more to the story? Why do they refer to it as a holocaust?

Mis-understood symbols, oh yes. And I'm sure I still miss some. A lot of Americans think the American flag is what it is, but it is not. It is a United States flag, and not even the original. The original United States flag had the stripes going vertical, not horizontal.
I wonder how many folks don't know what the "G" stands for in the masonic symbol with the compass..

What about Moscow's red square? And then the literal "red" logo of Union Bank, founded by a hitler supporter, and involved Prescott Bush?



Execs with Bush:



And then almighty Halliburton's logo:












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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 08:19 PM
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Im lost, its not that the correlation of the symbols and there usage that stumps me, but im not sure on your position.
are you against or for any of the content your providing or is it just some information that you want us to look at?
I looked though the source site, and i must say that it lacks any real substance in the form of textual reference and comparison's to the time frames of many things.
He seems to highlight thinks that support his arguments and leave other parts out.
Do you thing Christians are wrong , or pagans, ?
from you masonic comment am i to belive that they are the problem (can i expect more on the all seeing eye in logos?) is it the banks themselves or that they are controlled by people who may be related to nazi germany..
the mind boggles.
is very logo a hidden meaning to the downfall of mankind? or just an in joke amongst a selct few.
thanks for clearing this up if you dont mind.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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Well, I don't know how to say if I'm for or against any image I've posted- they just exist, and they're there. It's all symbolism and comparisons, and most of these images don't need any textual interpretation, just personal opinion..

I'm not one to come out and say that any certain person's religious beliefs are wrong, whether I think so or not, though I can guarantee you that the said "believer" probably doesn't know exactly where all the things they believe in came from.. Paganism is more replete throughout history and the basis of religions today than many people think, but that's a whole other thread entirely...

If you were to look through the entire source's site, I realize it could take a few hours. I've listened to many of his lectures, and research/verified much of the content. Not just through internet, but actual printed documents that date back many years... Here's an example, and I've verified this through records on microfilm..

Nobody can say that the masons or freemasons, in general, are the problem. There are good people in every faction of an organization, or government, or institution. But money controls everything in society, and the elite, or banksters, or whatever you want to call them have infiltrated every profitable (controllable) part of the important institutions that this world abides too. At least that's what I know..

I don't mean to stab at anyone's personal beliefs.. Those beliefs are a god-given human right. But I can't help but recall a quote I once heard: "Christians call themselves believers because they 'believe'.. They don't 'know' anything"... about their faith's origins.. At least that's what I interpreted the quote as..


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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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I found this site itself to be intersting...some things were doctored, I believe, in a few pics, which leads to credibility issues. Regardless, some references are too obvious not to notice and I think each "rebuttal" you've posted has been fair and well thought out...I am interested to see where this will go. Thanks for the reading!

ColoradoJens



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 10:19 PM
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Thanks mate, that helped clarify it a bit

ill be honest, im no Christian just looking at my posts in the theology forums will tell you that.
i am a man of religion but not of one path


Ive done a fair amount of research myself into symbols and there use and i agree its happening, but theres always two sides to a coin, like the recycling of ancient symbols of good, being perverted into modern evil symbols.
i walk a path of "knowing" not beliving, since i looked past the veil

blessed be
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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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Well thank you.. I'm curious as to what you believe is "doctored".. Maybe I'm missing something...



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by rstregooski
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Well thank you.. I'm curious as to what you believe is "doctored".. Maybe I'm missing something...


Holy (or Holi) shaz! I just spent a good thirty minutes on Mr. Maxwell's site and I come back and YOU! You're doctored! I was laughing really hard when I saw your new avatar - anyhoo....some sweet stuff there! I really like the "Have you Ever Wondered?" section - some of the rock formations got me thinking...anyway, to the perhaps doctored stuff, I was wrong 100% in my wording. My bad. I should have said, there is some misleading characterization. Again, I am 100% with you here - I just had a great time on that site - I think some, SOME of the things listed have been debununked but most are very interesting to investigate...it reminds me of an old "In search of" with Spock website - fun and filled with info to further check out - and I know full well who Jordan Maxwell is - I simply never spent much time there until this thread! Thanks again - You are right and I didn't mean to offend! I am bad with expression! Thanks for the thread and well thought out posts.

CJ



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 11:38 PM
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Well thank you for stopping by.. I feel that whether people want to, ought to, need to, or might need to see this, it quite probably won't occur.. But it's been put "out there", anyways...



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by rstregooski
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Well thank you for stopping by.. I feel that whether people want to, ought to, need to, or might need to see this, it quite probably won't occur.. But it's been put "out there", anyways...


I think it is in the presentation, as callous and sad as that sounds...the web site needs work in that it needs to get rid of the rainbow colors and stars etc and have MORE footnotes! I am one for looking into it yourself, but help me out a little mate! Nah, as I was saying and have said, thanks for posting; gave me a lot to think about - if I gave you a fully formed opinion tonight I'd be lying! I ain't that smart.

ColoradoJens



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 12:49 AM
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Well people will always see what they want to see. I think the more interesting thing about the site you posted is the connections the author made. It says a lot about their mind and the prejudices they hold. According to Aristotle, communication has three parts, sender, message, and recipient. All are equally important too.

Meaning is in the eye of the recipient, and we all will read from these what we want them to be.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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Well people will always see what they want to see.


Nailed it!

I had to throw this in there, though. There's not much missing this. You know about Sirius, the dog star? Well somebody behind this logo knows about it!!
Sirius Radio!



Notice the dog with the star eye... Very interesting..

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