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Is Obama a genetically engineered Alien/Human Hybrid ???

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posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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reply to post by Annee
 


Shhhhh.


Originally posted by boondock-saint
Providing a long form would have opened too
many possibilities of being detected as a fraud
as there is quite a bit more details on the LF
like a delivery doctors name, Barry's feetprints,
birth weight, citizenship of parents, etc... etc ....


It will be more fun to let the OP answer.




posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by bhornbuckle75
he would have logically had to do...then why the Hell couldn't he have them forge a 'long form' Birth Certificate as well???? The answer is HE COULD.......

ur right he could have.
However, it was NOT required BEFORE he became
president. The short form sufficed to get him in
office. Now that he is already there, there is no
need to produce further fake documents. Plus, Barry
has also signed an EO sealing all his history.

Providing a long form would have opened too
many possibilities of being detected as a fraud
as there is quite a bit more details on the LF
like a delivery doctors name, Barry's feetprints,
birth weight, citizenship of parents, etc... etc ....

Opening up all those other doors of info would have
proven under normal scrutiny that it was fake.

We still do not know to this day, what doctor
delivered Barry. And there is NO doctors signature
on his short form BC only the signature of a gov offical
claiming it is a valid document and even that signature
is only a inked rubber stamp applied to the paper.

But it is not my intention to turn this into a birther thread
either. But it seems it just can't be avoided when we discuss
genetic engineering of a Alien/Human hybrid.


edit on 4/22/2011 by boondock-saint because: (no reason given)


Are you serious?!?! Have you tried applying 'common sense' to the Ideas you just typed? Why the heck would his feetprint matter?!?! And how in the world would a doctor that performs deliveries everyday be able to remember whether or not he delivered Obama...when at that point Obama was just another kid!!! Do you think the Doctor has a photographic memory of every single black and/or mixed race baby he's ever delivered? The citizenship of his parents where never in question...His birthweight?!?! OMG!!! Well that would prove the whole thing a fraud wouldn't it?!?!

I mean...have you even begun to think of how ridiculous this all sounds?! Assuming its all a conspiracy (which I don't assume...just doing so for argument's sake) A long form would be just as easy to forge as a short form for someone who was capable of pulling off the world's most amazingly bizarre and surreal conspiracy! Despite what you claim, none of your reason's for assuming there is something magically unforgeable about a long form hold up to even the most basic common sense...



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia
2 questions. Can anyone see that EO besides you?

yes it is freely viewable from the WH website,
but here's your excerpt and link.


Sec. 4. Claim of Executive Privilege by Former President.

(a) Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and such other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist's determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of privilege.

Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked.
BARACK OBAMA

THE WHITE HOUSE,
January 21, 2009


www.whitehouse.gov...


Originally posted by Sinnthia
What line do the feet prints go on?

they go on the reverse side of the document,
not on the front.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia
reply to post by Annee
 


Shhhhh.



Oops!



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
Plus, Barry has also signed an EO sealing all his history.


Birther lie, care to show us all this "EO"? No, I did not think you could!


We still do not know to this day, what doctor delivered Barry.


Care to show us the names of the doctors, and their signatures on the long form birth certificates of previous POTUS's? no, funny that,, but then none of them were black, were they!

Just more birther lies.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
yes it is freely viewable from the WH website,
but here's your excerpt and link.


Perhaps you should read that particular EO as it deals with records generated DURING HIS TERM AS PRESIDENT and has nothing to do with personal records. So BIG FAIL THERE!


they go on the reverse side of the document,
not on the front.


I guess the onus is on you to back that claim up now, isn't it?
edit on 22-4-2011 by Sinnthia because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by ShakaDoodle
Hey boondock, pay no attention to these worthless detractors. Your thread is by no means a "train wreck", it is simply too deep and subtle in conception for a lot of people to grasp. Look at the works of Z. Sitchen, please dont bring sitchin into this train wreck of a post,many thanks



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by bhornbuckle75
how in the world would a doctor that performs deliveries everyday be
able to remember whether or not he delivered Obama...

we're not asking to do an interview with
the doctor, just a simple signature on a
LF BC would suffice.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
yes it is freely viewable from the WH website,
but here's your excerpt and link.


Sec. 4. Claim of Executive Privilege by Former President.

(a) Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and such other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist's determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of privilege.

Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked.
BARACK OBAMA


Nothing in there about sealing Barack's personal details, it say "living former President"....

So just another birther lie!
edit on 22/4/11 by dereks because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by dereks
Nothing in there about sealing Barack's personal details, it say "living former President"....
So just another birther lie!


please read the whole document.
you are taking it out of context.

Basically it is saying that no presidential
records of any kind, past or present cannot
be revealed without being approved by the
current president (summarized version).
It is called Presidential Privilege. And is referred
to that title in the EO.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia
I guess the onus is on you to back that claim up now, isn't it?

I have 3 children born over a 2 decade span.
All 3 of them had foot prints on the reverse side
of their BC.

I am not about to post pics of my children's BC
on the internet just to suffice this thread.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
please read the whole document.
you are taking it out of context.


When you get around to backing up your claim about footprints

Most hospitals in the U.S. issue a souvenir birth certificate which typically includes the footprints of the newborn. However, these birth certificates are not legally accepted as proof of age or citizenship, and are frequently rejected by the Bureau of Consular Affairs during passport applications. Many Americans believe the souvenir records to be their official birth certificates, when in reality they hold little legal value.[25]
source then perhaps you can provide everyone with the context you have that apparently others are missing.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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To the OP. Great post. I remember reading an article which explained how Obama was created thought an esoteric ritual. Im trying to find this information.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Sinnthia
I guess the onus is on you to back that claim up now, isn't it?

I have 3 children born over a 2 decade span.
All 3 of them had foot prints on the reverse side
of their BC.

I am not about to post pics of my children's BC
on the internet just to suffice this thread.


I have no doubt you got non-legal ID, souveneir BCs from the hospital for your children. They would not be able to prove eligibilty for president with those though so it does not really matter if you got them or not. You need to prove your claim that REAL LEGAL long form birth certificates include footprints. No need to post your kids, just prove it is a common practice anywhere.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by dereks
Care to show us the names of the doctors, and their signatures on the long form birth certificates of previous POTUS's? no, funny that,, but then none of them were black, were they!

Just more birther lies.


a mod has already warned against using racism
or skin color in this thread. I will not follow your
questioning when you refuse to abide by the T&C
of this site.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
Basically it is saying that no presidential records of any kind, past or present cannot
be revealed without being approved by the current president (summarized version)


Still wrong, "Presidential records" are records generated by a President - his birth certificate etc are NOT presidential records -

And still waiting for the long form certificates of previous Presidents - funny how you are unable to show them, but are demanding Baracks.... why is that?



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by dereks
Nothing in there about sealing Barack's personal details, it say "living former President"....
So just another birther lie!

when the EO states that any presidential info
must get the permission of the current president
BEFORE being released,
it's the same thing as sealing them.



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by dereks
Nothing in there about sealing Barack's personal details, it say "living former President"....
So just another birther lie!

when the EO states that any presidential info
must get the permission of the current president
BEFORE being released,
it's the same thing as sealing them.


So how did that, if true, cost $2million?

PS, it does not mean what you claim, actually.

Where are the long form birth certificates from all previous presidents?



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia
When you get around to backing up your claim about footprints

Most hospitals in the U.S. issue a souvenir birth certificate which typically includes the footprints of the newborn. However, these birth certificates are not legally accepted as proof of age or citizenship, and are frequently rejected by the Bureau of Consular Affairs during passport applications. Many Americans believe the souvenir records to be their official birth certificates, when in reality they hold little legal value.[25]
source then perhaps you can provide everyone with the context you have that apparently others are missing.

ok, so how about even showing that souvenir BC

that hasn't been provided either



posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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If footprints are like finger prints. And you have a missing child. Why are these official documents not used to identify a missing child?

As far as I know - - - feet prints are not part of the official birth document.

I suppose some hospitals can choose to include them. But I've never known it to be standard.



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