Forget the Birth Certificate! Wheres the Proof He Even Existed?, page 3
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reply posted on 20-4-2011 @ 02:15 AM by RoguePhilosopher
reply to post by ShakaDoodle


Concur! Assume you were refering to the BLUNT One as being one of them!


reply posted on 20-4-2011 @ 02:27 AM by kwakakev
I have not gone through who knows and said what about who to confirm if Obama went to university or not. But lets say he did not and his whole public history is BS. Considering the Birther movement and issues with his social security number I am willing to entertain the idea.

Firstly we have the electoral college, this was designed to keep out people unworthy for office but has become a dismal failure. Bush with his first term indicates this, Bush with his second term proves it. So now the electoral college is run by the military and energy machine and who knows what else.

With this social security number issue Obama has CIA backing, so now we get into the deep dark world of the MIC, deception, lawlessness and golden skeletons (a profitable hidden crime). Also quite a few stories of mind control, alien agreements, suppressed technology and other games to keep the bankers and other rich on top.

So whatever Obama's history is, he has fear to let it be known. This means there are people that have power over him, but this takes more than just one person, there is a system. A system that remains silent about 9/11, drug wars, people trafficking, UFO's and other serious issues. This is not about truth or justice but power and secrets.

So what is Obama's true history? I don't know, he maybe an alien, a clone, a cyborg or some other strange scientific experiment kept out of the public eye. He may be an earthly human that just fought his way up inside the shadow government, responded well to a mind control program or had to go off planet for some training. There was quite a few missing years in Bush's history as well so maybe there is a connection?

What I am sure about is that the games of deception are not over yet.


reply posted on 20-4-2011 @ 02:34 AM by ShakaDoodle
reply to post by RoguePhilosopher

Hee, hee, - yes - the closer we get to the truth about "The One", the more they seem to run around in a blind panic.


reply posted on 20-4-2011 @ 03:22 AM by dereks
Originally posted by hawkiye
Dummy up it is well documented even in election records www.abovetopsecret.com...


It is obvious you never bothered to read that thread, as you would have seen

Read that carefully..........McCain has spent $1.6 million in the time period from Jan. 2007 to Oct 2009 and he's not even president nor did he have people filing suit after suit about his eligility. Obama has spent $2.6 million from Jan 2007 to DATE( 1 year 3 months longer time period then McCain)) with more numerous law suits being filed against him. What's McCain hiding to spent that much money????? It's all part of the game. Campaigns have a lot of legal expenses. Every President or candidate has spent vast amounts of money retaining lawyers. Bush spent over 333,000 in one year alone.

Just another birther lie once again!


reply posted on 20-4-2011 @ 03:29 AM by hawaii50th
reply to post by hawkiye




Right on, I wish I could give you more than just one star and one flag.
You hit a thousand nails on the head with just one whack, now hows that, I'd say just priceless.
Yes he is a great magician, just popped out of no where, and then there he was Mr. President. and all the libs went take a walk on the wild side, you know that song.




reply posted on 20-4-2011 @ 06:56 AM by OptimusSubprime
Originally posted by vjr1113


here you go
and here is a news paper announcing his birth




now, evidence like this would surely put an end to most conspiracies, but i know it wont be enough for most

here's the dated page

edit on 20-4-2011 by vjr1113 because: (no reason given)
edit on 20-4-2011 by vjr1113 because: (no reason given)


The first image is not of a birth certificate, it is of a certificate of live birth. There is a huge difference and that difference is that anyone can get a certificate of live birth from where they live. For example, I live in Virgina but I was born in Georgia. I have a birth certificate from the state of Georgia, but I can go today and get a certificate of live birth from the state of Virginia because all that proves is that you were born, not WHERE you were born.

The second and third images are interesting, but they don't really prove anything because all it says is "son". It doesn't says his name.
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