Forget the Birth Certificate! Wheres the Proof He Even Existed?

Originally posted by filosophia
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This is a rather odd wedding picture. Who is the white lady? His mother? Sister? Whoever she is, isn't it a bit odd that Obama is standing next to the white woman as opposed to Michelle? And if the lady next to Michelle is her sister, why isn't she in a bride's maid dress? She seems like she's wearing a long sleeve shirt and maybe a dress or pants. And where is everyone else? They had four people at their wedding? Nothing more than that?

Will anyone please read the posts before them if they are going to ask silly questions? It saves everyone a lot of time. But just for you...
Official Wedding Photo of Obamas and their wedding party:
The "white lady" wearing the corsage is his mom and no, it would not be strange to take a photo like this after the wedding (ever been to one?). I assume the lady next to Michelle is one of the guests, perhaps an aunt or cousin, since she is not in any formal attire and she seems perfectly dressed for the occasion. They even gave her one of the roses! Shocking, I know.

The picture you just showed is also here. Along with the note that the

Bridesmaids and attendants wore all monochrome costumes, setting off the bride’s look beautifully.

Did you want to see the wedding register too or is this enough? Maybe the signed guestbook?

Originally posted by Mukashif
There IS *something* shady about president Obama..

NO-ONE seems to be able to know anything about his history.. (NOTHING)

Actually, EVERYTHING we know about his past is sort of, well, strange.. (i.e went to Islamic school, no classmates from U-Columbia who remember him, etc..)

The mere fact that ALMOST EVERYONE is questioning his *origins* raises a flag!



S&F to the OP

It sad that so many fall for this. The only ones that get fooled are the really smart folks.

i have to so agree with you op, this entity came out of know where and know one can figure out who or what exactly he did


nice post,

So why didn't the Bush family out him during the election? Please don't say it's all part of some twisted plan. The republicans hate to lose and made up all kinds of lies, like this one, to keep him out of office.

Originally posted by hawkiye
Does this make you wonder?

hell yes.

Did you see a picture called The Manchurian Candidate?...

yes & I see what you're saying but I think its enough to simply say he is totally in the control of others... regardless of how it is being done exactly.

forgetting all that though, you are spot on imho, I'm with you 100%. You're country has been stolen by thieves. (I'm beggining to think yours is not the only one either..)

-B.M

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Okay, so now the existence and the resume are proven. That's good.

Um, well the liberal left conventiently found the article, and it seems to be the only one "tucked away" in the HLR. I believe that it is his, or if it wasn't, he has been coached on what issues to present in what way, just like most everything that crosses his teleprompter. I think he is 100 % cupported by TPTB, just as long as he does exactly what they want.
I believe it's possible that the CIA created the person Obama seems to be, given their ability in the illusion dept.

Originally posted by thorazineshuffle
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What does that have to do with no one remembering him from college?

I'll bet you can't find anyone who remembers me from college either. The only time o was around was for class. My social life was far removed from the campus. I made no friends and was a guy in the back of the room that only spoke when spoken too. Matter of fact I don't remember anyone else from college either. LOL

Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard
So why didn't the Bush family out him during the election? Please don't say it's all part of some twisted plan. The republicans hate to lose and made up all kinds of lies, like this one, to keep him out of office.

The reason would be for the same reason that Bush and Kerry were both Skull and Bones but pretended to be on opposing teams. Hegelian dialectical reasoning. It's very simple really. Pretend to be on opposing teams presenting the conflict of opposites, then the synthesis is the NWO(neither right nor left as the late Antony Sutton explained). I have already said this on other threads about Hegelianism.
As long as someone represented both sides of the argument, the same group wins no matter who people vote for.
Soros is said to have funded the campaigns of Obama, Hillary, and McCain, who all three happened to be the ones who remained in the contest the longest.

Originally posted by allprowolfy
i have to so agree with you op, this entity came out of know where and know one can figure out who or what exactly he did

nice post,

I read somewhere he's George bush seniors illegitimate son. That's why they didn't expose him during the election. Then everyone would know that he had an extra marital affair with a black woman.

Makes sense, no?

reply to post by bobs_uruncle


Sir you win the Prize. I am so surprised at this Barry Soetoro voters on this board. I believe they are all being paid to name call and corrupt the forum. The Elite Puppets who are the Fed Gov are all in this party together. They are run by the Royal Bloodlines and we are nothing but slaves to them. If anyone on this forum doesnt realize that by now then we will never be able to rid the world of Evil. Too many people enjoy being ruled or they would see right through the illusion called politics. No Such thing as Right vs Left when the Presidents are all related by blood.

I just wish Obama was more "transparent" about these matters. Oh I'm sure he can lean on the "it's private and none of anyone's business" line he has been taking, but it really doesn't resolve analyzing things.

All of this would be resolved if he would show the documents publicly. Show the page of his passport when he went to Pakistan. Show the long form Birth Certificate in a manner no one can dispute ie tell Hawaii it's ok to release in a news conference. Show more info from his college days. Fill in any gaps with hard, irrefutable evidence.

For a President who claims to want a transparent Administration, It sure seems that he doesn't want to address questions surrounding those areas in great detail other than his autobiography. That allows the conspiracy theories to grow and multiply.

He could shut down the birther arguments just by showing the evidence.

If I were President, I would want to squash those accusations the best way possible, by refuting them with the exact evidence my detractors say I'm hiding. He's a very public figure....it's part of the deal of being a celebrity or a politician, your whole life gets put under a microscope with a 1000 watt light on it.

Just my two cents.

I'm no fan of Obama at this point; But I feel for him. The level of idiocy leveled at him makes me want a 2nd term for the man even if he doesn't deserve it, just to piss people like the OP of this thread off. I know how this feels; I've had people, ex-friends of mine, attempt to do much the same thing to me as what's being done to Obama, question my blackness, my background, where I grew up, my sexuality, EVERYTHING, for no other reason than good old fashioned, anger, jealousy, resentment, and, above all that, RACISM. I was getting work they weren't getting, and they didn't like it. I'm black; the people I'm talking about are all white.

Same deal. It's a tactic, a ploy; a right-wing routine to discredit everything about someone you don't like, truth and evidence be damned. and, just like with Obama, they got some people to believe it. Not many, but enough. What's really sad is that Obama isn't the enemy. he's a puppet on a string for the wrong side, sure; every elected official is except for maybe ron paul and his son. But, he's not the showrunner, he's a hired gun. TPTB are laughing at you idiot birthers because THEY are picking our pockets, poisoning the air, food and water, and so on, not Obama. You dumbass birthers go for the oke-doke every time. Obama(if you believe wayne madsen) was CIA early on. The U.S. gov knows his ass backwards and sideways, he's gotten a better vetting than bush 43 or clinton. He' is who he says, everyone knows that except birthers. Honestly, My IQ level drops every time I see one of these threads. the stupid, epic FAIL in them actually makes my head hurt, especially since the whole thing misses the #ing mark by several light years. Get a life, birthers

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Yes, actually, now that you have posted that pic, I agree the bridesmaid dresses are very elegant and formal. Was the other woman MIchelle's Mom? I mean it would make sense to have her in the pic with Barack's Mom.

reply to post by dragonseeker


I don't like his Marxist Spread The Wealth routine. If that bothers you, than I'm sorry you don't believe in dissension against govt when it is not representing the best interests of the people. It's what our Founding Fathers provided for in the Constitution nevertheless. In fact, why does your avatar have the American Flag flying upside down? Could that be a protest against the govt? Why is your protest valid and those on the Right not?

Who is the OP, really? John McCain? Some other hopeful incumbent trying to make a run for the whitehouse.

And what do we know of the OP's history. Why aren't his birth records available. Anyone know the guy? Anyone from his college. I mean, there's like a million people on ATS, and no one even knows the guy!?

I'd say from all the evidence I just presented that the OP is most likely an alien dressed up as McCain but pretending to be a poster on ATS.

(Just in case: yeah I'm not that delusional. My post is a parody.)

Originally posted by filosophia
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Correction on your photo. It is the married couple and their mothers after the wedding. Marian Robinson is next to her daughter, Ann Dunham is next to her son.

Originally posted by pavil
I just wish Obama was more "transparent" about these matters. Oh I'm sure he can lean on the "it's private and none of anyone's business" line he has been taking, but it really doesn't resolve analyzing things.

All of this would be resolved if he would show the documents publicly. Show the page of his passport when he went to Pakistan. Show the long form Birth Certificate in a manner no one can dispute ie tell Hawaii it's ok to release in a news conference. Show more info from his college days. Fill in any gaps with hard, irrefutable evidence.

For a President who claims to want a transparent Administration, It sure seems that he doesn't want to address questions surrounding those areas in great detail other than his autobiography. That allows the conspiracy theories to grow and multiply.

He could shut down the birther arguments just by showing the evidence.

If I were President, I would want to squash those accusations the best way possible, by refuting them with the exact evidence my detractors say I'm hiding. He's a very public figure....it's part of the deal of being a celebrity or a politician, your whole life gets put under a microscope with a 1000 watt light on it.

Just my two cents.

Yes, and surprisingly, Elena Kagan's siggy appears on court documents showing she represented him in cases against him, and she was subsequently rewarded by his nomination of her for the Supreme Court. It's a no brainer, yes?

Originally posted by hawkiye
Got this in email and had to post it.

FORGET THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE. HOW ABOUT ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT THIS IMPOSTER EVER EXISTED .


OK... this is past the 'birthers' questions.... this is just plain old common sense, no political agendas for either side. Just common knowledge that citizens of a country and especially American citizens who even know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery or that Lincoln never went to school or Kennedy wore a back brace or Truman played the piano.

Good grief... we are Americans! We are known for our humanitarian interests and caring for our 'fellow man'. We care, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president. Honestly, and this is a personal thing...but it's niggled at me for ages that no one who ever dated him ever showed up. The simple fact of his charisma that caused the women to be drawn to him so obviously during his campaign, looks like some lady would not have missed the opportunity.... We all know about JFK's magnetism, McCain was no monk, Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess were probed... Biden's aneurisms are no secret. Look at Cheney and Clinton.. we all know about their heart problems and certainly speaking of the opposite sex- how could I have left out Wild Bill before or during the White House? Nope... not one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer!!" Now look at the rest of this... no classmates, not even the recorder for the Columbia class notes ever heard of him....

.... I just dunno about this fellow.

Who was the best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen.

Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors? It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him.

When did he meet Michele and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? And who in hell voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010?????

Does this make you wonder?
Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc. ?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past.

VERY, VERY STRANGE..
This should really be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Did you see a picture called The Manchurian Candidate?.....

Let's face it. As insignificant as we all are .. someone whom we went to school with remembers our name or face ... someone remembers we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us.

George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him.

While he is such a great orator, why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? And, why won't he allow Columbia to release his records?

NOBODY REMEMBERS OBAMA AT COLUMBIA

Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but none remembered him.

Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia .. EVER!

Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, "Class of '83 political science, pre-law" and says, "You don't get more exact or closer than that." Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, 'the macha' who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him."

Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia , provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia ..


NOTE: Root graduated as Valedictorian from his high school, Thornton-Donovan School , then graduated from Columbia University in 1983 as a Political Science major in the same class in which Barack Hussein Obama states he was.

Some other interesting questions..

Why was Obama's law license inactivated in 2002?

Why was Michelle's law license inactivated by Court Order?

It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 aliases. WHAT!! ??? The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is never reported to have lived.

No wonder all his records are sealed!

Please continue sending this out to everyone.
Somewhere, someone had to know him in school...before he "reorganized" Chicago & burst upon the scene at the 2004 Democratic Convention & made us all swoon with his charm, poise & speaking pizzazz.

edit on 20-4-2011 by hawkiye because: (no reason given)

in all honesty, i could personally care less if he exists or not, if he's native or not. all that should matter is if he does his job, if he's doing it how it should be done then welcome aboard, if not get your ass off and let someone who is willing to do what is needed to be done on board.

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Ahhhh.... Some elaborate hoax. There is no true two party system. They are both on the same side. So all those democrats are on the same side as the republicans. Why didn't I see it before???

Maybe because it's not true. I live and work in DC. I have been neighbors with congressmen, went to school with their kids and talked to them. They are real people, not reptilians.

My father was a lobbyist and testified on capital hill. He told me stories, not about some secret society, but about some politicians that were on his side of a given issue and others who would stoop too very low levels to destroy their opposition.

People here speak fantasy talk based on crap they read on the Internet and YouTube videos made for the naive.

If they had anything on Obama, you would have heard about it before the GOP lost the election.

Now if you told me that the democrats made up the birther story I would be willing to believe it. What better way to fracture the republican vote? Get all they gullible Obama haters and racists isolated so the republicans would disown them? Now that's a cool conspiracy!!!!

Hahaaaaaaaaaaaa

I wouldn't put it past the sleeper-in -chief to have a copy of his long form birth certicicate on the night stand of his bedroom in the White House.

Arrogant people can be very stubborn and he may very well not be providing it as his way of thumbing his nose at his detractors and ready to pull it out pre-election to make anyone who questioned his royal high-ness look stupid. Dishonest manipulative ppeople are like that.

Am glad Trump's loooking into it and I hope his posy examines the sleeper's entire pedigree and cv.