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Forget the Birth Certificate! Wheres the Proof He Even Existed?

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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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Hawaii calls it the "certificate of live birth" and technically the hospital issues it.

Your knit picking a few details here and there to make a stupid case which does not exist....


Even if we wasn't born in america, and thus an illegal alien or visa holder, we definitely have more important things to attend to. As others have mentioned senator mcain, mitt romney, fdr and probably more candidates have suspicious papers.




posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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I think the whole Birther idea is nutty, but I agree that his academic career and his entire history before politics is a mystery. That is not actually a conspiracy and it's been commented on many times I've seen.

I'd think even his supporters would want to know who he is and how he thinks. We do have the people he surrounds himself with and they are a radical bunch, so you would assume he was involved in radical activities.

I have seen a video of him teaching Rules for Radicals to a class and if he believes that he hates the US and want's to topple it. That is not a mystery though as the tape and record of him teaching the classes exists.

That Birther stuff though is helping him get reelected. Don't Birthers know they are helping him? If I were Obama, I'd have rabid Birthers working for me posting on the Internet.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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What does that have to do with no one remembering him from college?



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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the OPs email makes total sense. hell, even though i am just a "number" in reference to the total human population on this planet, there are people that i dont even remember, in my hometown that know what i've done for them, or to them while growing up. this is a No brainer.

hell, one of my buddies from the Navy 10+yrs ago, contacted me this week, out of the blue, and everything in my life changed since then...address, phone #, marital status, email addys etc. For NO ONE, to know this guy, or admit to it, has always haunted me. my wife and I were at odds because i told her my opinions, i was surprised she took such offense to my questioning him, and honestly, we're 2 middle class African americans...i lol'd at her being so PROBAMA based on his melanin count alone.

now let me say this:
ANY day that the US has an Indian, Asian, Hispanic, African, Martian-american president, is a day of celebration. but to become such with no verifiable and honest background of being an ACTUAL CITIZEN does now bode well for the morale of the Nation.

No one wants to be operated on by a FAKE DOCTOR, he may kill you, at the most. and at the least, ruin your trust of the profession. our elected leaders are should/ be held to the same scrutiny and accountablility.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:03 PM
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Please read the whole thread. Then do some googling. It won't take more than 2 minutes to find plenty of information on Obama in college, wedding pics, family pics, kindergarten pics, etc.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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Radical? You mean (dum-ta-dum dum) progressive... humanitarian... quasi socialistic... even LIBERAL???
Yeah, he has a bleeding heart, questions America's choices and motives in the past at the higher levels and favors political and humanistic activism... a real threat to... something.

The real problem here is the entrenched, literal PTB and their agenda, which is to keep the destuctive mind sets going at least until their retirement and that all sissy intellectuals and bleeding hearts are being silly and "unrealistic" about human suffering and environmental issues.

Or heck, he could be a reptilian anti-christ from Kenya intent on putting conservatives and true blue American cowboys into internment camps... what do I know, really?



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by Mikemp44
To all those Leeches out there know that you have chosen to be a part of the problem, and when the ultimate solution comes you will be swept away with them.


Don't you mean The Final Solution? ugh

Damn, it's like that Nazi mindset is a viral infection or something.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Ummm, I think you were lost on this thread. You know CIA people can disappear or make other people disappear. How can people be so ridiculous trying to debunk things. Certain projects only become apparent after documents become unclassified.
I cannot vouch for this info, I can only say that you cannot always know what your govt is up to..

wakeup2010.blogspot.com...

www.exportblueprint.com...

Also, the idea that Stanley Ann, and Madelyn Dunham were both assets is still a little hard for me to agree with because of Stanley Ann's reputation in High School as being pro Communist. It could have been a front even then, but given those odd pics taken of her by Marxist Frank Marshall Davis, referred to by Obama in Dreams of My Father...who knows what seedy, shady stuff is in this family's background. Also, the elder Dunhams attended the "Little red Church", a left-leaning Unitarian church on Mercer Island www.americanthinker.com...

It was highly unusual for girls in the 1950's to have interracial relationships, much less babies, with a man of a difference race. During this time, however, the Communist Party of the United States encouraged women members to use their feminine wiles to entice men, especially black men, into the movement, as well as to reward the ones who joined up. Did Communist brainwashing play some role in Stanley Ann's choice of partners and her subsequent pregnancy?

So, it's very interesting that so many here would defend the Truther movement theories about govt involvement in 9-11, but not covert CIA operations involving Stanley Ann and her family.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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I find all the fuss about Barry extremely funny and at the same time depressing.
Where were all you guys when Bush ran for two terms and our country into the ground.
I think our current president is doing pretty good.
Look at the state of the country when he stepped into office.
And the country is still here, not in the best of shape but.
Had we elected Mccain we'd all be glowing green by now.
Could you have done better....i seriously doubt it.
When people can't find anything to gripe about of substance they'll look for anything.
I really wouldn't give a rat's ass if he wasn't a US citizen.
All the other previous US citizen presidents did a great job for us didn't they.
I'm white, Democrat and i like the guy.
While i find most of the people i've talked to hate him for being black and a democrat.
Why can't you guys just come out and admit that that is your motivating factors.
Clinton did a good job but couldn't keep you know what in his pants.
Had he fired Linda tripp instead of leaving that Bush plant in the white house.
The republicans would have never had the chance to spend 40 million dollars of
our hard earned money to investigate a blow job that i didn't give a rats ass about either.
However Treason, Mass murder, war crimes, taking the country to war on a lie.
You guys don't want to talk about that do you.
Funny and sad at the same time.
Oh god help us.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by mustfarhan
reply to post by hawkiye
 


I have talked with an ex illuminati, i mean ptbs' pawn on higher levels and he told that Obama has take all training and education in underground facility in Iceland and he is prepared all his youth to become American President


Yeah well my ex illuminati friend told me that the truth behind birthers is that they eat their own feces.

C'mon....



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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The main issue i have still is the fact that this post hasn't been moved to the Hoax section.

All the claims here have been proven false in the first 5 pages.

Especially when the OP opens with "hey i got this email i need to show you..."

What the heck is gong on here at ATS is the real conspiracy...lol



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Oh Dipstick. No one remembers you at school either.

And in a few weeks no one here will remember you either.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by karen61057
Why doesnt someone just ask him to pull up his shirt so we can see his belly buttom. No belly button he's a clone. Gimmie a break...


So, I just checked your profile and seems you started a thread on 666 days till 2012. That sure is chock full of valid and verifiable facts relating to 2012. There was no statement of any kind by you in your opening statement other than it was 666 days till 2012. So you believe in 666 and the Mark of the Beast, but you do not think the CIA could seal Obama's Columbia U records or his COLB?
edit on 20-4-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by hawkiye
 

I think the whole Birther idea is nutty, but I agree that his academic career and his entire history before politics is a mystery. That is not actually a conspiracy and it's been commented on many times I've seen.


um....he was the president of Harvard Law Review. No mystery there. It's pretty easy to verify, as is the rest of it if you're an actual journalist who'd probably will a Pulitzer Prize if he/she could scoop such a conspiracy to fabricate Obama's resume. Or if you'd been working for the 2008 Clinton Machine, and you were tasked with derailing the guy's primary campaign. I do like how you preempted your remarks with the "nutty" statement concerning birthers. Smooth.


I'd think even his supporters would want to know who he is and how he thinks. We do have the people he surrounds himself with and they are a radical bunch, so you would assume he was involved in radical activities.

I have seen a video of him teaching Rules for Radicals to a class and if he believes that he hates the US and want's to topple it. That is not a mystery though as the tape and record of him teaching the classes exists.


I'd love to see this. Please post the link. And as far as his radical activities, the Clintons' campaign death squad must be pikers compared to your investigative skills. I don't know how they ever overlooked the lack of proveable academic career, the video of him training radicals, and that other stuff you must have squirreled away somewhere.


That Birther stuff though is helping him get reelected. Don't Birthers know they are helping him? If I were Obama, I'd have rabid Birthers working for me posting on the Internet.


Yeah, that's the ticket. Reverse psychology at its most insideous. Make the hard right look insane. Good idea. Toss a billionare with a hairnest stapled to his head out there, and have him say the most messed up crap about birther conspiracies, and then gin up poll numbers to make it appear as though 60% of the GOP believe every word of it. It's genius. Genius, I tell you.

Someone needs to call someone about this.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by vjr1113
this is silly
this should really be in the hoax forum
just my opinion, im sure a lot more ppl hate him a lot more than i do, but as a conspiracy... cmon.

at least skunk, at least. btw hes also a reptillian muslim nazi jew kenyan spy
edit on 20-4-2011 by vjr1113 because: (no reason given)


I dont know why you received 15 stars for your stupid comment. Maybe you should argue the negative, instead of shouting hoax like an uneducated ignorant imbecile. After everything you just read, are you seriously, intelligently going to claim this is all "silly"? Please delete your account, such anti-constructive comments should result in permanent IP bans.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:23 PM
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I mean no offense here, but if the Mods are too afraid of looking like they are taking sides by moving this post where it belongs, then political discussion posts can not have a star and flag system.

Everything the OP has posted has been "refudiated" (see what i did there)

Sooo, how about some action, guys/gals?

I think most of us cant believe this made the Front page. This is what people are seeing when they come to ATS. If it was my first time, i might think about turning around. It reminds me of a GLP post, tbh.
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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by ahmonrarh
 


Please read the whole thread. Then do some googling. It won't take more than 2 minutes to find plenty of information on Obama in college, wedding pics, family pics, kindergarten pics, etc.


That guy thinks these are emails we're posting. Seriously, read his first sentence. That's as far as I got. I didn't bother with the rest of it.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by Ewok_Boba

Originally posted by vjr1113
this is silly
this should really be in the hoax forum
just my opinion, im sure a lot more ppl hate him a lot more than i do, but as a conspiracy... cmon.

at least skunk, at least. btw hes also a reptillian muslim nazi jew kenyan spy
edit on 20-4-2011 by vjr1113 because: (no reason given)


I dont know why you received 15 stars for your stupid comment. Maybe you should argue the negative, instead of shouting hoax like an uneducated ignorant imbecile. After everything you just read, are you seriously, intelligently going to claim this is all "silly"? Please delete your account, such anti-constructive comments should result in permanent IP bans.


Well how about the fact that the facts have already been beaten to death in this thread. Why should poster number 1276 need to quote something quoted in the first 5 pages.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:26 PM
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um....he was the president of Harvard Law Review. No mystery there. It's pretty easy to verify, as is the rest of it if you're an actual journalist who'd probably will a Pulitzer Prize if he/she could scoop such a conspiracy to fabricate Obama's resume.


People apparently fabricate their resumes all the time. They call it "padding". So you don't think Bill Ayers of Weather Underground and the SDS and Axelrod and all the others could teach him how to do that? Yale is the land of Skull and Bones and Harvard a bit less so, but nevertheless still part of that deal.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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Awesome way to spread doubt and dissension in the guise of satire!

I think I spotted this chain letter in my gmail spam folder. Google MUST be liberal.

If you can't believe your eyes, then what will you believe?



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