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Originally posted by spikester
reply to post by JibbyJedi
I personally don't believe in pissin anyone off any more. But hey if it blows your skirt up go for it.
Rodney King
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
reply to post by LiQuiD_FuSioN
That's just it, you do not have to present your ID to them unless...X, Y, & Z... not going to post ALL of the legislation here, you can Google it. That is one point I was trying to make... the police take advantage of the unaware and naive to the point where you're either getting a stiff fine, or under arrest with heavier fines.
No matter what you do at their request, you're going to have to pay "something".... unless you have family in the police force. Everyone knows someone who knows how this works with off the record violations. I could tell you stories... then I'd get a visit tomorrow by the police asking what I know about what I posted. That's another story for another thread.... let the poster beware!
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
reply to post by LiQuiD_FuSioN
That's just it, you do not have to present your ID to them unless...X, Y, & Z... not going to post ALL of the legislation here, you can Google it. That is one point I was trying to make... the police take advantage of the unaware and naive to the point where you're either getting a stiff fine, or under arrest with heavier fines.
No matter what you do at their request, you're going to have to pay "something".... unless you have family in the police force. Everyone knows someone who knows how this works with off the record violations. I could tell you stories... then I'd get a visit tomorrow by the police asking what I know about what I posted. That's another story for another thread.... let the poster beware!
Not eveyone who comes into contact with the police is a criminal. The police can, and do, just thrust their noses in for NO reason at all. Other than they think they have a god given right to do so. You need to be suspected of a crime of some sorts for the police to come and demand ID. Alot of people do not know this, and hand over their details when they have no need to do so. It is far better to know the law, and be prepared in uor own defense, when the nazi state sponsered pigs come and hassle you. Yeah, it pisses them off when people know the law better than they do, but that's a goodthing. Gives the ma little reality check to let them know that they're not the storm troopers they think they are, and they have laws which they have to obey too. Many police forget this, and just do what they want, to whoever they want, when ever they want. Would you rather everyone just complied, even when it's agaisnt their rights to do so? That's proper messed up.
Originally posted by nixie_nox
And why are you getting into situations that involve police and need to know your rights?
So instead, when you're hassled by the police, you should just roll over and play the good little citizen, even if you believe they are abusing their powers? That's the wrong attitude to have IMO. It's not being silly, or petty, it's preventing those who have been gifted powers, from abusing them. if you think that's silly, then there's no hope for you.
Originally posted by nyk537
This is what kills me about this argument here.
Why is this such a great victory again? Because these guys don't present ID for the sole reason that "they don't have to". BIG DEAL. Just because you don't "have to" do something doesn't mean that you should refuse to do it in every situation just to rebel against law enforcement.
Seems like more of a jerk thing to do than some kind of rebellious act of freedom.
Most law enforcement is only doing their jobs when things like this take place...it's the jerks who think they are making a point by acting stupid that cause the trouble....not the officers.