Video from China - Weather Modification is VERY real!, page 1

Video from China - Weather Modification is VERY real!, page

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Topic started on 19-4-2011 @ 07:26 PM by raiders247

Came across this video that is supposedly being shown on TV in China. The beginning of the video is in commentated in Chinese but the visuals alone can explain exactly whats going on. About half way through the video there is English commentary that explains the process and brief history. Not a good time to be a "Weather Mod" debunker....

YouTube Link

So if China is doing this then it is a no-brainer that everybody else in the world is following suit. We are the guinea pigs of the elitist, what else can you really say?

reply posted on 19-4-2011 @ 07:30 PM by kimish

Isn't that what HAARP is for, weather manipulation? or modification? I believe they do this in areas that don't receive alot of rain. To me that is a positive thing. But, as we all know technology is often used for reasons it wasn't intended for.

reply posted on 19-4-2011 @ 07:39 PM by molecularstranding

www.fas.org...

go there, press ctrl+f then type earthquakes.

reply posted on 19-4-2011 @ 07:49 PM by MrSmokeydogg7

Of course they can control the weather the real question is how much can they control is it just making it rain or can they create hurricanes eq etc

reply posted on 19-4-2011 @ 07:52 PM by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by raiders247
Not a good time to be a "Weather Mod" debunker....

So if China is doing this then it is a no-brainer that everybody else in the world is following suit. We are the guinea pigs of the elitist, what else can you really say?

Weather modification has been going on for 60 years or so - who's trying to debunk it??

reply posted on 19-4-2011 @ 07:55 PM by raiders247

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Weather modification has been going on for 60 years or so - who's trying to debunk it??

Agreed, it has been going on for a very long time but it is still treated as a "Conspiracy Theory".

I'd rather not name any names, but ATS is full of members who constantly deny Mans' ability to manipulate the weather.

reply posted on 19-4-2011 @ 08:04 PM by Aloysius the Gaul

reply to post by raiders247

I've never encountered any.

Usually weather modifiction gets mixed up with chemtrails, and now geo-engineering - whereas geo-engineering is about climate - changing the whole "setup" of the climate, and weather modification is about changing the weather in relatively small areas (relative to the whole of the earth).

Likely weather modification does have some effect on the wider climate but I wouldn't expect it to be much - I'd be interested in seeing studies.

reply posted on 19-4-2011 @ 08:05 PM by tsurfer2000h

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Here is something that could be a big contributor of environmental problems.

The extent and type of air pollution in China vary dramatically by geographic region. SO2 and particulate emissions are highest in the northern half of China, where coal is used to heat homes and other buildings for several months of the year and where industrial centers also depend heavily on coal burning. Yet, air pollution in the North would be much worse if not for the higher quality, cleaner coal that is available there. By contrast, the coal mined in the South is high in sulfur and extremely polluting, contributing to serious problems with acid precipitation, especially in the southwest provinces of Sichuan, Guizhou, Guangxi, and Hunan [24][25].

www.wri.org...

Here's a couple of pics of traffic in China.

168.03 Million -- That's the number of motor vehicles on China's roads. The figure cover automobiles, motorcycles, tractors, trailers and other motor vehicles.
By comparison, the US had 250,851,833 registered motor vehicles in 2006 according to a Department of Transportation study (in 1960: 74.4 million). 8.26 million -- In the past year, 8.26 million motor vehicles were added to China's road, a 5.17% increase. By comparison, between 2005 and 2006, the number of motor vehicles on US roads increased by 1.38%.

127.68 million -- That's the number of private motor vehicles in China, about 76% of total, but their increase is faster than non-private vehicles.

www.treehugger.com...

reply posted on 19-4-2011 @ 08:37 PM by itsawild1

go to aircrap,org----------google now has a chemtrail map that you can send in your observations--clifford carnicom has some eye opening info.
The chinese have a very bad problem with their air quality--air which is poisond and drifts all the way to america.
However the whole world is chem-trailing aluminum and barium. reflectives which if you go to chemcrap.org, you would see the results of tests done on snow and water samples that are thousands of times above the EPA safe ammount for these chemicals . Here in wisconsin it is noted that the snow fleas of winter and early spring have dissapeared altogather. Its the little insects that are seeing the first results of this poisoning. We are also if you go to the site i listed above, we are seeing people being affected.
Global warming is real and these measures they take with spraying aluminum oxides and barium to dimm is a last ditch effort which is poisoning the whole planet. The bible states god almighty will come and put a stop to the ones who would destroy the whole earth if he didnt act. And people wrote these things down thousands of years ago!!!!!!
I pity anybody 35 and younger. You will be robbed of your old age

reply posted on 19-4-2011 @ 09:05 PM by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by itsawild1

However the whole world is chem-trailing aluminum and barium. reflectives which if you go to chemcrap.org, you would see the results of tests done on snow and water samples that are thousands of times above the EPA safe ammount for these chemicals .

absolutely false information.

They are testing soil, and then sayign that eth limits are thousands of times that allowed for WATER.

Skywatch tests wind-blown dust for aluminium and barium and psots the results - but doesn't say how much air they filtered to obtain their sample so they are lying too!!

Soil typically has 3-8% aluminium in it naturally - about 8% of the crust of the earth is aluminium. dust blowing in hte wind is the same. sludgge on the bottom of ponds - all contains natural aluminium and barium.

If Carnicom et al are still showing those results then they are deliberately lying to you!

Here in wisconsin it is noted that the snow fleas of winter and early spring have dissapeared altogather. Its the little insects that are seeing the first results of this poisoning.

Then you should be able to identify the insecticide - because it isn't aluminium or barium!

Global warming is real and these measures they take with spraying aluminum oxides and barium to dimm is a last ditch effort which is poisoning the whole planet.

Except it just isn't happening - ther is not one single sample from anywhere that shows anything being sprayed, nor is there any evidence of aircraft being modified to spray, nor anything odd being added to fuel, nor any photos of "barium chemtrail makers" fitted to aircraft, etc.

I pity anybody 35 and younger. You will be robbed of your old age

Except life expectancy is still increasing in most of the world - unless you are fat and smoke.......

reply posted on 19-4-2011 @ 09:17 PM by tsurfer2000h

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The chinese have a very bad problem with their air quality--air which is poisond and drifts all the way to america.

Have a link to this info? So your saying their bad air is coming to our western shores, but what about Hawaii, Japan(who have their own environmental problems right now) are they showing the signs of dirty chinese air?

reply posted on 20-4-2011 @ 05:04 AM by pianopraze

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by raiders247

I've never encountered any.

Usually weather modifiction gets mixed up with chemtrails, and now geo-engineering...

Likely weather modification does have some effect on the wider climate but I wouldn't expect it to be much - I'd be interested in seeing studies.

ROFLOL

Maybe because the geoengineers are talking about weather modification via cloud seeding:
Geoengineering by cloud seeding: influence on sea ice and climate system

The lies cannot hold. Change is in the air. Truth is a fresh breeze blowing and the disinformation is falling!

We've been doing it since the 60's and have quotes where they say the military will do it internationall treaties be damned!

Project Popeye (1966)

Project Popeye was an experiment in increased rainfall through cloud seeding jointly approved by the U.S. Department of State and U.S. Department of Defense. The technical aspects of the experiment were verified by Dr. Donald F. Hornig, Special Assistant to the President of the United States for Science and Technology. The government of Laos was not informed of the project, its methods or its goals.
Robert S. McNamara, U.S. Secretary of Defense, was aware that there might be objections raised by the international scientific community but said in a memo to the president that such objections had not in the past been a basis for prevention of military activities considered to be in the interests of U.S. national security.

link

Here's an airforce paper showing written well after we signed all those treaties describing how we would be using that new airforce space shuttle for weather modification. This proves what McNamara said was true. We have no qualms about weather modification despite any treaties we sign. Same goes for geoengineering:

Air Force paper Owning the weather in 2025 - Military Applications of Weather Modification (also here)

Introduction - Page 1 - Page 2 - Page 3 - Page 4 - Page 5 - Appendix

In 2025, uninhabited aerospace vehicles (UAV) are routinely used for weather-modification operations.

reply posted on 20-4-2011 @ 01:48 PM by firepilot

Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by itsawild1

The chinese have a very bad problem with their air quality--air which is poisond and drifts all the way to america.

Have a link to this info? So your saying their bad air is coming to our western shores, but what about Hawaii, Japan(who have their own environmental problems right now) are they showing the signs of dirty chinese air?

Actually I believe that I have also read accounts of Chinese air pollution reaching the US too. Hawaii is rather well south though, and not downwind of China either

reply posted on 20-4-2011 @ 01:56 PM by Celestica

There have been several National Geographic specials in the past on the subject of 'Cloud Seeding'. They do it in Texas all the time, nothing new about it.

reply posted on 20-4-2011 @ 02:23 PM by firepilot

Originally posted by Celestica
There have been several National Geographic specials in the past on the subject of 'Cloud Seeding'. They do it in Texas all the time, nothing new about it.

Yep, its not secret at all, it is a straw man they use to prove "chemtrails", except that small planes, flying inside of precipitating clouds, releasing flares, is somehow the same to chemmies as large planes with big trails at jet altitudes.

There are a few projects in Cali that Pacific Gas and Electric pays for, one in North Dakota, and a few scattered ones in west/south Texas in the summer too.

But a Cessna 340 or Piper Seneca, or even a Beech King Air, is certainly not what falls into their chemconspiracy, except when its convenient for them

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