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Michigan: Police Search Cell Phones During Traffic Stops

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posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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Seriously, what the hell! This can't be constitutional!


The California Supreme Court ruled Monday that police can search the cell phone of a person who's been arrested -- including text messages -- without obtaining a warrant, and use that data as evidence. The ruling opens up disturbing possibilities, such as broad, warrantless searches of e-mails, documents and contacts on smart phones, tablet computers, and perhaps even laptop computers, according to legal expert Mark Rasch.



the majority likened cell phone inspection to police inspection of a cigarette pack taken from a suspect, which was ruled a legal search in a prior case. A second ruling was cited involving the search of clothing removed from a suspect.

msnbc

I agree that it shouldn't be allowed, but the criminal courts have said otherwise.
There were a few ATS Threads on the ruling back in January.


edit on 19-4-2011 by Oaktree because: (no reason given)




posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 07:57 PM
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I agree that it shouldn't be allowed, but the criminal courts have said otherwise.

The criminal courts are freaking sell outs. The judges are traitors to the document they claim to uphold.

America is really too far gone for it all to end peacefully. There will be blood to be paid before this is over.



posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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I think people will get really pissed if the Dollar Collapses.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 12:13 AM
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To loosely quote Jon Stewart:

"How can they afford to do this after they send the Goerge Orwell royalty checks out?"



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:01 AM
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Yet another state joins the ranks of the increasingly fascist states of America. It's an invasion of privacy and thwarts the constitution against illegal search and seizure. Write to Governor Ric Snyder (R) and voice your concern;

Governor Rick Snyder
P.O. Box 30013
Lansing, Michigan 48909
PHONE: (517) 373-3400
PHONE: (517) 335-7858 - Constituent Services
FAX
517) 335-6863
E-MAIL: Rick.Snyder@michigan.gov

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie (another republican, go figure) also had a problem with recognizing our constitutional rights when he authorized warantless cell phone tracking;
(ACLU says Chris Christie authorized warrantless cellphone tracking)

California's Supreme Court has also sanctioned search and seizure of cell phone data, but only if you're arrested (which is pretty easy these days);
(Court: No warrant needed to search cell phone)

Texas also engaged in warantless cell phone snooping, and has also taken data from cell phones for traffic stops;
(Cops Can Search You…and Your Phone’s Memory) (Gizmodo.com, 2008)



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Yet another state joins the ranks of the increasingly fascist states of America. It's an invasion of privacy and thwarts the constitution against illegal search and seizure. Write to Governor Ric Snyder (R) and voice your concern;

Governor Rick Snyder
P.O. Box 30013
Lansing, Michigan 48909
PHONE: (517) 373-3400
PHONE: (517) 335-7858 - Constituent Services
FAX
517) 335-6863
E-MAIL: Rick.Snyder@michigan.gov

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie (another republican, go figure) also had a problem with recognizing our constitutional rights when he authorized warantless cell phone tracking;
(ACLU says Chris Christie authorized warrantless cellphone tracking)

California's Supreme Court has also sanctioned search and seizure of cell phone data, but only if you're arrested (which is pretty easy these days);
(Court: No warrant needed to search cell phone)

Texas also engaged in warantless cell phone snooping, and has also taken data from cell phones for traffic stops;
(Cops Can Search You…and Your Phone’s Memory) (Gizmodo.com, 2008)


Yeah, sure, write to a corrupt politician asking him to stop the corruption. I think Tenacious D had a better idea: City Hall. (warning: explicit lyrics)



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:02 AM
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I remember being pulled over when I was 16 and the cops were searching our cell phones...Most cells have a lock on them where you have to put in a code to access any information, it's the best thing to have on a cell phone...besides a block button for any crazies out there.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:11 AM
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Well i happy i never got a cell phone. Screw verizon. i think, thsoe with cell p hones and screened unlawfully by the police, should go back to the maker of the cell, and demand your money back, or tell everyone u know to never buy your stupid cell phne..if you knew the law was gujna turn agaisnt yuo over a stupid immeidate call, like a cell, then it wasnt worth having in the first place, violating yuor rights like that. put pressure on the cell phone maker to the put pressure ont he cops or something.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:24 AM
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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:15 AM
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For those of you with iPhones, please follow these steps when getting pulled over in Michigan:

Quickly open Settings > General > Reset. Push the "Erase All Content and Settings" button. Confirm by pressing "Erase" twice from the popup dialog. Your device will be securely erased, destroying all encryption keys and making the data garbled and useless.

If you regularly sync your iPhone with iTunes, it should be keeping a backup of your data. When you get home, plug the iPhone into your computer, and select "Restore from Backup." Select your most recent backup and proceed with the reinstall.

Alternatively, if say your significant other is in the car, they can help you too. Ahead of time, install this app from Apple called "Find My iPhone." Register both devices under a single Apple account on each device. Then if the time comes and the cop is too fast, quickly grabbing your cell phone, or you forget to wipe and they take it, have your significant other discreetly open Find My iPhone, click on the blue chevron next to your device, and select "Remote Wipe." This will remotely self-destruct your iPhone's data and there is nothing their spy equipment can do to stop it. Then don't forget to have your SO wipe their device too.

Hope this helps! Screw you big brother!


midwest



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:24 AM
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Originally posted by midwest
For those of you with iPhones, please follow these steps when getting pulled over in Michigan:

Quickly open Settings > General > Reset. Push the "Erase All Content and Settings" button. Confirm by pressing "Erase" twice from the popup dialog. Your device will be securely erased, destroying all encryption keys and making the data garbled and useless.

If you regularly sync your iPhone with iTunes, it should be keeping a backup of your data. When you get home, plug the iPhone into your computer, and select "Restore from Backup." Select your most recent backup and proceed with the reinstall.

Alternatively, if say your significant other is in the car, they can help you too. Ahead of time, install this app from Apple called "Find My iPhone." Register both devices under a single Apple account on each device. Then if the time comes and the cop is too fast, quickly grabbing your cell phone, or you forget to wipe and they take it, have your significant other discreetly open Find My iPhone, click on the blue chevron next to your device, and select "Remote Wipe." This will remotely self-destruct your iPhone's data and there is nothing their spy equipment can do to stop it. Then don't forget to have your SO wipe their device too.

Hope this helps! Screw you big brother!


midwest


You don't have to go through all of that. If you have a smartphone, just password protect it. You're protected twice then: first by the password itself, second by the 5th Amendment to the Constitution. You know, the one that says you have the right against self incrimination. They can compel you to give them your phone, but they can't legally compel you to give over the password.

/TOA



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 08:11 AM
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Sounds pretty illegal. Just keep that vintage phone in your car you were going to throw away anyway and feed that to the cop.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 08:21 AM
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The article clearly states " The device can bypass passwords, even multiple passwords."

This is scary stuff. The police are unwittingly being drug into this police state take over. They are only trying to be more effective and more efficient. They look for tools and devices to assist them, while overlooking the big picture.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 08:26 AM
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Or you can shake off your technological tether and leave it at home.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 08:34 AM
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This is what I posted in the same topic in Other Current Events:

"In my opinion, the problem is not only about unwarranted searches its about being considered guilty until proven innocent. I have to give in and jump through hoops to prove I'm a law abiding citizen? All the while the police office has no reasonable suspicion, or even any logical reason, to assume such a search is necessary."


Also, watch out for a troll called Exuberant1 - Champion of Debate.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 08:40 AM
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Thank goodness we've got the ACLU to stand up for us on this.

This is simply disgusting. You want to search my phone, you go get yourself a warrant. Plain and simple.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 08:42 AM
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then, don't use mobile phone in Michigan



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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Some people have been using the excuse that the police need to do this to protect us. Aren't the police there to protect our rights? If so, how does violating our rights equal protecting them? Also, any new technology the police use to apprehend criminals can and will be circumvented by most criminals eventually. So the criminals will do business as usual and the common law abiding citizen will continue to get their well deserved rights trampled on a daily basis.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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Cell phone signal jammers might work. There are several versions out there. Some small, some large.

Although, this may idea may work:

Buy some copper screen and build a cell-phone sized faraday cage. For those who don't know what a faraday cage is....Google it. If you still have the box the phone came in, then you could use that. Just cut the screen to fit all exterior walls of your box and a screen on the lid. You won't be able to get a signal when it's in the box, therefore, nobody else should be able to send any kind of signal into it. Nothing illegal about it.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by kro32
What exactly have they done that's illegal? According to the report nobody knows what exactly has been done, it just states that the aclu would like to see records of how they were used.

Quit putting the cart before the horse and reserve critical judgement till you have all the facts.


What they have done is usurp the power to pry into your life over issues that don't warrant them having that information. Running a stop sign is not enough of an issue to inquire into who you talk to and what messages you're sending to whom. THAT is what they've done.

Unreasonable search, therefore, constitutionally illegal search. Seems pretty simple to me.



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