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NASA symbols and rocket ship etched into strange concrete table next to Skinwalker Ranch.

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posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 01:10 PM
Perhaps.. They know something is coming down the line and they're making their own mark that'll withstand all that comes, like so many before us did. There's no denying they did either, with the pyramids, the faces on the stone etc. Just for the future inhabitants to look at and ponder while they try to imagine what it is because the ego demands an answer with every other theory being formed up for that extra special ingredient many enjoy the most: fear.

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 01:14 PM
I was thinking it looks like a government survey marker. So they made it bigger so it wouldn't disappear or worse.

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 01:21 PM
I agree with mikellmikell I'm sure they had surveyors out there to mark off certain spots for buildings or whatever..from the aerial photo you posted it looks like some kind of foundation was there at one time. Cheers coco

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 01:23 PM
Ok, so a Govt building was there. Look at the overhead view. Man made rectangle outline of a building.
But, why was it torn down? Why was it there in the first place?

The dots being connected are very strange.

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 01:26 PM
its 10 miles to the east of Bigelow's Skinwalker Ranch. Bigelow owns Bigelow Aerospace which works directly with NASA.

skinwalker was purchased in 1994, cattle mutilations happened in 1980s next to this exact spot. Bottle Hollow Resevoir constrctured around 1979

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 01:28 PM
TLRS is "Transportable Laser Ranging System". Google it for more information.
"MV" apparently is "apparent visual magnitude". NASA Acronyms "M"

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 01:52 PM
reply to post by itscocobaby

I'll "third" that it is a survey marker. The pad was poured with mounts for gear.

George Knapp will probably not be very friendly to inquiries regarding the ranch since some jerks are always messing around the ranch, leaving trash, etc. He mentions this often on Coast to Coast.

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:53 PM

edit on 19-4-2011 by hiii_98 because: (no reason given)

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 02:58 PM
i'm sure the accidental and hastly left trash has nothing to do with a team of burly ex airforce MP heavily armed BAASS guards with loaded guns, dogs, and ATVs.. being on private property off of Bigelow's ranch's property.... but hey what would i know.... Think Knapp should worry more about Mr. B's own property and not neighboring ones and illegal tactics by Nevada liscensed security personel.
edit on 19-4-2011 by hiii_98 because: (no reason given)

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 05:05 PM
I believe that THIS is what was meant to be there...or was there...or will be there again?? It's the VLBI.

Perhaps this mystery is solved??

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 05:09 PM

Originally posted by krater
Did a google search for "NASA 7290-C" which gave me the following result here .

Krater posted this earlier as to the vague origins of what this may be...

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 05:34 PM
Taking measurements of the earth's crustal movement by using quasars.
They are just keeping an eye on the San Andreas Fault.
Maybe they accidently hit some cattle with their lasers when it fell over.

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 06:22 PM
I got the impression they were sensing a quasar from multiple locations, then comparing time delay of the radio signal between stations to determine changes in earth diameter. The location of the sites is needed as part of the computatIon.

It is an interesting find, though nothing nefarious going on.

There is a USGS website with search engine to find monuments like this. NAIS or NIAS, something like that. I've used it in the past to check the accuracy of my GPS.
usgs monument link
edit on 19-4-2011 by gariac because: added usgs link

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 07:12 PM
This is a very interesting find.
Nice fast work on finding out it was a marker btw.

How many more markers are out there like this one?
And I’m curious if anything has happened on the sites of the other markers,
Who do you think they trying to tell,( yes its ok you can mutilate, fly and hover around here, you have our permission.)

And I’m wondering if there are any low frequency’s coming from this.
And maybe they didn’t move the location of the building; they just removed the surface cover.

I’m just thinking out loud. I’m probably way off.

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 07:29 PM
reply to post by Whateva69

I added the USGS monument link to the previous post. There are many more markers than you find on that website. There are DMA (Defense Mapping Agency) markers on the Nellis range. Counties usually have markers along the border. Hike enough hills and ridges, you find a lot of markers. I can't say I ever found a NASA marker.

The marker on Tikaboo is an interesting oddity. The USGS never stamped the altitude. Somebody scratched in 8000ft, which is a bit higher than actual.

Back to that USGS site, some markers are listed as satellite observable. They have a large, permanent X. When you pay to have a site mapped, they put down a large paper X. It lasts long enough until they fly the satellite over it. Google trespassed on a parcel of undeveloped land I own and plopped down the large X. Pissed me off. The google photo / wifi sniffer car caught me today too.

posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 10:55 PM
check this out,

posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:51 AM
Here it is in the USGS database with a few more significant digits. This one mentions laser ranging, so that aids the laser cattle mutilation theory. ;-) The pad is easily seen in Google Earth. The old seismic station must be to the east of the pad.

LN0699 *********************************************************************** LN0699 CBN - This is a Cooperative Base Network Control Station. LN0699 DESIGNATION - VERNAL NCMN 7290 LN0699 PID - LN0699 LN0699 STATE/COUNTY- UT/UINTAH LN0699 USGS QUAD - VERNAL SE (1978) LN0699 LN0699 *CURRENT SURVEY CONTROL LN0699 ___________________________________________________________________ LN0699* NAD 83(2007)- 40 19 37.05829(N) 109 34 14.55711(W) NO CHECK LN0699* NAVD 88 - 1608.7 (meters) 5278. (feet) GPS OBS LN0699 ___________________________________________________________________ LN0699 EPOCH DATE - 2002.00 LN0699 X - -1,631,472.818 (meters) COMP LN0699 Y - -4,589,130.223 (meters) COMP LN0699 Z - 4,106,759.833 (meters) COMP LN0699 LAPLACE CORR- 0.58 (seconds) DEFLEC09 LN0699 ELLIP HEIGHT- 1591.238 (meters) (02/10/07) NO CHECK LN0699 GEOID HEIGHT- -17.57 (meters) GEOID09 LN0699 LN0699 ------- Accuracy Estimates (at 95% Confidence Level in cm) -------- LN0699 Type PID Designation North East Ellip LN0699 ------------------------------------------------------------------- LN0699 NETWORK LN0699 VERNAL NCMN 7290 1.06 0.82 2.29 LN0699 ------------------------------------------------------------------- LN0699 LN0699.The horizontal coordinates were established by GPS observations LN0699.and adjusted by the National Geodetic Survey in February 2007. LN0699 LN0699.The datum tag of NAD 83(2007) is equivalent to NAD 83(NSRS2007). LN0699.See National Readjustment for more information. LN0699.No horizontal observational check was made to the station. LN0699.The horizontal coordinates are valid at the epoch date displayed above. LN0699.The epoch date for horizontal control is a decimal equivalence LN0699.of Year/Month/Day. LN0699 LN0699.The orthometric height was determined by GPS observations and a LN0699.high-resolution geoid model. LN0699 LN0699.The X, Y, and Z were computed from the position and the ellipsoidal ht. LN0699 LN0699.The Laplace correction was computed from DEFLEC09 derived deflections. LN0699 LN0699.The ellipsoidal height was determined by GPS observations LN0699.and is referenced to NAD 83. LN0699 LN0699.The geoid height was determined by GEOID09. LN0699 LN0699; North East Units Scale Factor Converg. LN0699;SPC UT C - 2,223,101.421 663,937.759 MT 0.99993563 +1 14 09.1 LN0699;SPC UT C - 7,293,625.25 2,178,269.13 sFT 0.99993563 +1 14 09.1 LN0699;UTM 12 - 4,465,027.886 621,421.923 MT 0.99978149 +0 55 30.3 LN0699 LN0699! - Elev Factor x Scale Factor = Combined Factor LN0699!SPC UT C - 0.99975044 x 0.99993563 = 0.99968609 LN0699!UTM 12 - 0.99975044 x 0.99978149 = 0.99953199 LN0699 LN0699 SUPERSEDED SURVEY CONTROL LN0699 LN0699 ELLIP H (09/24/02) 1591.267 (m) GP( ) 3 1 LN0699 NAD 83(1992)- 40 19 37.05756(N) 109 34 14.55632(W) AD( ) A LN0699 ELLIP H (04/03/92) 1591.300 (m) GP( ) 1 1 LN0699 NGVD 29 (04/03/92) 1608.1 (m) 5276. (f) GPS OBS LN0699 LN0699.Superseded values are not recommended for survey control. LN0699.NGS no longer adjusts projects to the NAD 27 or NGVD 29 datums. LN0699.See file dsdata.txt to determine how the superseded data were derived. LN0699 LN0699_U.S. NATIONAL GRID SPATIAL ADDRESS: 12TXK2142165027(NAD 83) LN0699_MARKER: DD = SURVEY DISK LN0699_SETTING: 34 = SET IN THE FOOTINGS OF SMALL/MEDIUM STRUCTURES LN0699_SP_SET: CONCRETE PAD LN0699_STAMPING: VERNAL MCMN 7290 1985 LN0699_MARK LOGO: NASA LN0699_MAGNETIC: N = NO MAGNETIC MATERIAL LN0699_STABILITY: C = MAY HOLD, BUT OF TYPE COMMONLY SUBJECT TO LN0699+STABILITY: SURFACE MOTION LN0699_SATELLITE: THE SITE LOCATION WAS REPORTED AS SUITABLE FOR LN0699+SATELLITE: SATELLITE OBSERVATIONS - August 02, 2010 LN0699 LN0699 HISTORY - Date Condition Report By LN0699 HISTORY - 1985 MONUMENTED NASA LN0699 HISTORY - 19980617 GOOD NGS LN0699 HISTORY - 20100802 GOOD NGS LN0699 HISTORY - 20100802 GOOD NGS LN0699 LN0699 STATION DESCRIPTION LN0699 LN0699'DESCRIBED BY NAT AERO SPACE ADMIN 1985 LN0699'PRIMARY SCIENTIFIC PURPOSES - MEASUREMENTS SUPPORTING THE LN0699'DETERMINATION OF REGIONAL DEFORMATION AND INTERCOMPARISON OF LN0699'MEASUREMENT TECHNIQUES. LN0699'SITE DESCRIPTION - THE STATION IS LOCATED ON THE ABANDONED SITE OF THE LN0699'UINTA SEISMOLOGICAL OBSERVATORY IN NORTHEAST UTAH. THE SITE WAS LN0699'DESTROYED WHEN THE TEMPORARY OBSERVATORY WAS RETURNED TO THE BUREAU LN0699'OF LAND MANAGEMENT, THUS MAKING SEVERAL YEARS OF DATA USELESS. THE LN0699'PROJECT HAS RECONSTRUCTED THE SITE. THE SITE IS NOW EQUIPPED WITH A LN0699'UNIVERSAL PAD COMPATIBLE FOR OCCUPATION BY TLRS OR MV SYSTEMS. LN0699'THE MARK IS A NASA BRASS DISK. LN0699'TO REACH THE STATION FROM THE JUNCTION OF U.S. HIGHWAY 40 AND STATE LN0699'HIGHWAY 121 (WEST ONE OF TWO LIGHTS IN VERNAL), GO WEST ON U.S. LN0699'HIGHWAY 40 FOR 3.7 MILES TO A SCENIC OVERLOOK ON THE LEFT. CONTINUE LN0699'WEST ON THE HIGHWAY FOR 2.0 MILES TO A NARROW PAVED ROAD ON THE LEFT. LN0699'TURN LEFT AND GO SOUTH FOR 5.1 MILES TO THE END OF THE PAVED ROAD AT LN0699'SEISMOLOGICAL OBSERVATORY AND THE STATION. LN0699'SITE TOPO - VERNAL SOUTHEAST, UT., USGS LN0699'GEOLOGICAL PROVINCE - UINTA BASIN LN0699'LOCAL GEOLOGY - DUCHESNE RIVER FORMATION. TERTIARY SEDIMENTS-SHARLES, LN0699'CONGOLMERATES, AND SANDSTONES. BEDROCK-MORRISON SANDSTONE (JURASSIC). LN0699 LN0699 STATION RECOVERY (1998) LN0699 LN0699'RECOVERY NOTE BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1998 (DW) LN0699'THE STATION IS LOCATED AT NASA CRUSTAL MOTION PAD (LASER RANGING LN0699'STATION) AT FORMER SITE OF UINTA BASIN SEISMIC OBSERVATORY. IT IS IN LN0699'MCCOY FLATS AREA, 9.5 MI SSW OF UINTAH COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN VERNAL, LN0699'UT. TO ACCESS FROM INTERSECTION OF US 40 AND US 191 (OLD UT 44 = LN0699'VERNAL AVENUE), GO W, THEN SW, ON US 40/191 (MAIN STREET) FOR 6.3 MI LN0699'(TO MILEPOST 139.5). TURN S (LEFT) ONTO ONLY PAVED ROAD AND GO 5.0 LN0699'MI, BEAR LEFT AND GO 0.03 MI TO END OF PAVEMENT AND STATION. IT IS ON LN0699'1.2 M X 1.2 M, ISOLATED, CONCRETE PAD SET WITHIN 7 M X 7 M PAD, 0.5 M LN0699'S OF N SIDE AND 0.6 M E OF W SIDE OF PAD, 2.3 M S OF N SIDE AND 3.8 M LN0699'E OF W SIDE OF LARGE PAD, 2.46 M NW OF RM 7290-A, 2.8 M NE OF RM LN0699'7290-D, 56.6 M E OF CENTER OF EXTENSION OF DIRT ROAD, 1124 M S OF LN0699'AZIMUTH MARK, 84.3 M SSW OF RM 1, 99.8 M WNW OF RM 2, 77.4 M ENE OF RM LN0699'3 AND 25.5 M NE OF USGS BM '35 EAM 1964 5272.' W EDGE, MIDDLE, SEC 4 LN0699'(IRREG), T6S, R21E. NN 312. LN0699 LN0699 STATION RECOVERY (2010) LN0699 LN0699'RECOVERY NOTE BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 2010 (DW) LN0699'MAIN STATION IN GOOD CONDITION. ACCESS ROAD IS MCCOY FLATS ROAD. LN0699'RM'S C, D, AND 1 ARE OK. RM'S A, B AND 35 EAM ARE GONE. LN0699'THIS IS GRAVITY BASE STATION 'VERNAL NCMN', DOD 6644-0, NN 312. LN0699 LN0699 STATION RECOVERY (2010) LN0699 LN0699'RECOVERY NOTE BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 2010 (DW) LN0699'MAIN STATION IN GOOD CONDITION. ACCESS ROAD IS MCCOY FLATS ROAD. LN0699'RM'S C, D, AND 1 ARE OK. RM'S A, B AND 35 EAM ARE GONE. LN0699'THIS IS GRAVITY BASE STATION 'VERNAL NCMN', DOD 6644-0, NN 312.

posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 10:49 AM
another member my forum found this diagram related to the site

posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 12:21 AM
that's where skynet's terminators are hidden waiting to strike

posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 09:58 PM

Originally posted by boncho
Chances are, because it has the words "NASA" on it, it probably isn't a major secret. While it is very interesting, sending NASA a question about it might get an answer. They did leave their name on it after all...

+1 for rational, logical thinking.
This site needs for of this.

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