posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 07:57 PM
I hear people saying there are gay animals in nature all the time and whatnot but I am just curious, but when has anyone here actually seen a gay
animal couple in "nature". Nature, the natural environment or in the wild can only mean an environment void of human corruption, because lets face
it, humans seem to be the only animals in the world that cannot co-exist with nature peacefully, thus making us and any environment in which we exist
with animals unnatural.
As well, gay dogs owned by humans does not count because all domesticated dogs are no longer natural or naturally existing since they have been chosen
by humans as an animal to be shaped into a tool for our purposes. They are either for emotional companionship, gaurds, scouts, hunters, or helpers for
disability. These facts autmatcially forfeits any gay dogs from "we see gay animals all the time in nature" because it is not occuring in a natural,
As well we will not consider any gay animals in zoos, research labs, and aquariums, because of the obvious fact that they are completely deprived of
their natural environment of openness, freedom and way of life as they would live in whatever natural environment they were taken from, or never knew
because they were born into a life of captivity. The reason I rule these out is because there are numerous variables from a human environment and the
effects it has on an animal that could cause it to alter its way of life.
Now we could or could not take into account wildlife preserves, national/state parks and conservation areas depending on the human impact on each one.
Any significant human impact, such as feeding zones, camp sites and recreation areas would disqualify that area, but not to say the whole park.
Either way my point being, taking into consideration anything "unnatural" I have attempted to explain and by every individuals own experience, has
there been a recorded/documented case of gay behavior or couples in the animal kingdom in a natural environment away from the corruption of man or has
anyone personaly witnessed gay behavior or couples in animals that he/she could clearly or definetly tell the gender differences/similarities in a
natural environment? This does not count squirrels in your backyard even if you could surely tell the gender of each.
We have read in news articles about scientists witnessing things but I dont remember seeing any sources of where the event took place or animals were
We do not see herds of animals on discovery channel with a few same sex animals mating or showing gay behavior. And if someone has witnessed such
things or it has been documented, does anyone take into consideration or bother to follow up on the treatment from other animals in that environment
and how they react to such behavior? I mean if this can be researched for a fact than I believe it would prove for a fact whether or not being gay is
natural or not, although my belief is that it is not. because of the simple formula that
male+male = 0 offspring female+female=0 offspring female+male=offspring (granted there be no physical barriers such as lack of genitalia, radiation
exposure, hereditary defetcs, etc..)
As far as I can see, homosexual behavior/individuals are the result of an unnatural occurence/event in the individuals life. Whether it be the effect
of a child seeing a father treating the mother with such disrespect that it gives the child's undeveloped mind the idea that women are not good
therefore causing a significant priority in socializing and perhaps becoming intimate with the same sex if it is a male, or female becoming afraid of
a male figure and therefore choosing to life with females. Whether a certain child was abused by either parent causing similar reactions. Maybe the
child had a bad first experience with the very first encoutner of the oposite sex and therefore became harder to socialize with the opposite sex and
decided it would be easier to choose relate to the same sex. Maybe a certian parent was so persistent with imbedding certain beliefes into a child
that it turned that child off from the same sex of tha particular parent out of fear and hate? As far as I know every gay or "bi" individual I have
encountered that I actually became familiar with and talked aobut it realized that they had such a problem or something similar. I dont hate or fear
homosexuals, but I definetly agree that it is not natural and therefore innapropriate. It is not to say that these situations would cause a child to
go homosexual because alot of the times the child is strong enough in the mind to get through it.
I have a friend who is a male and he was raised by lesbian parents. At the time we met him when we were all but children in elementry school he was
already acting quite feminine and girly. I convinced my friends to accept him at the time and we helped him become more masculine and manly through
the years. He is straight has a girlfriend but unfortunately has a hateful view of homosexuals, particularly his mom and any one of her girlfriends
she may be with.
Well my point is homosexuality is unnatural, whether or not anyone believes it is right or wrong. It should not be met with hatred or fear but with
tolerance and education.
Regardless I believe homosexual couples seeking to adopt children should not be allowed because it would be unnatural, just like smoking cigarettes,
doing drugs, polluting the world, and wasteful living. Unfortunately it will come to pass and simply add another burden to society.