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That's another statement I disagree with. I have split beliefs, regarding Jesus of Nazareth on whether he did exist, his teachings distorted to benefit the elite or he was just a fabrication and patterned off Julius Caesar.
Originally posted by Akragon
You seem to think it matters if he existed or not... the fact is it matters not either way. The words that are "supposedly" from christ are all truth...
Please by all means find a flaw in his teachings... I've studied every word the man spoke, including things that arn't in your bible.
Originally posted by naeem11111
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by naeem11111
Im sorry but i find you very confusing.
Either way i think i understand you. You're saying you don't believe the God in the bible is the real God of creation. I agree to a point...
Likewise
Christ's words are complete truth so if you're looking for the word of God from the bible, read his words (no im not saying he was God) A lot of the bible is allegorical.
That's another statement I disagree with. I have split beliefs, regarding Jesus of Nazareth on whether he did exist, his teachings distorted to benefit the elite or he was just a fabrication and patterned off Julius Caesar.
Another statement is Jesus being The Chirst. He isn't and I know this for sure. From what I have researched, and I have split beliefs regarding The Chirst as well, that IT is a force, which came once before and will reveal itself sometime around the year 2080, or the Druids from northern Britain actually used to worship a figure called Chirst. Perhaps the two are linked together, as the Druids "worshiped" nature, living in total harmony and peace.
Originally posted by naeem11111
Originally posted by Akragon
You seem to think it matters if he existed or not... the fact is it matters not either way. The words that are "supposedly" from christ are all truth...
It does matter, in my opinion. After all, most Christians say they are like Jesus and follow his teachings, yet history has shown the opposite. People have murdered in his name (Bush) and enslaved in his name, yet he did not practice nor encouraged any of the things Christians have shown throughtout history time and time again. If he was real, and "up there," seeing people commiting such atrocities in your name, I certainly wouldn't want to join myself with such people.
Please by all means find a flaw in his teachings... I've studied every word the man spoke, including things that arn't in your bible.
My Bible? Are you having a go at me?
Regarding his teachings (if he existed), then yes, I agree with most of his saying, I say most as some are made up. Regarding the things that aren't in the Bible, I have read books which have his whole life recorded. One example and this is much better than the Bible, in my opinion is the aquarian gospel of Jesus christ. From this book(which is amazing) is how people should treat one another and thats why I have a split belief as I have evidence on both sides on his existence but from this angle I would agree with you, "the fact is it matters not either way."
-Naeemedit on 23/4/2011 by naeem11111 because: spelling
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by SuperiorEd
The tree of life is allegorical which i tend not to study much of...
Theres many ways of looking at it, but again it depends on whos point of view you learned it from... Some would say the tree of life represents the different chakras in your body. Others believe its a litteral story...like an actual tree located somewhere on the earth at one time *shrug*
I'd like to hear your view on it of course
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
The tone of words used by God showed his understanding that the keys of life are to be guarded so we cannot live forever. This is not our choice, but his to offer. If I were a scientist searching for cures to disease, or to unlock the timer on life span, DNA is the first place to look. When I read in Enoch that the watchers gave their seed to the daughters of men, also mentioned in Genesis 6, then I see why God was angry with fallen angels. Pride placed their choices above God. Enoch 1 also shows us that they messed with the seed of animals. In Genesis 1, we see that man and beast were peaceful on the earth. We see this again mentioned in Revelation as the state where we return. This is our glory at birth. In Alice and wonderland, we read this:
`And only one for birthday presents, you know. There's glory for you!'
`I don't know what you mean by "glory,"' Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. `Of course you don't -- till I tell you. I meant, "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"
`But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument,"' Alice objected.
`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.
`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.'
`The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master - - that's all.'
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again.
`They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs, they're the proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs -- however, I can manage the whole of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'
If you want to know the rest of the riddle, read my blog here. It will keep the post short.
Dodgson knew that the fountain of life and the philosophers stone would not be what the Masons thought it would be. He was also a Jesuit Catholic and a Mason himself. He was caught between two opposing worlds and locked his cognitive dissonance within the pages of his books and poetry. This is truth revealed to an individual.
You don't need the Bible to figure this out. It's just the best source. It also happens to offer salvation from a simple request: Faith, hope and love.
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by SuperiorEd
The tree of life is allegorical which i tend not to study much of...
Theres many ways of looking at it, but again it depends on whos point of view you learned it from... Some would say the tree of life represents the different chakras in your body. Others believe its a litteral story...like an actual tree located somewhere on the earth at one time *shrug*
I'd like to hear your view on it of course
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by SuperiorEd
I know the keys to heaven, they lie in the commandments givin by Christ...
Simplicity in itself
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
It is the Emerald hidden in the pegmatite. Here are the words of Joseph (PtahHotep). 5th dynasty of Egypt Visier.
"Be not arrogant because of that which you know; deal with the ignorant as with the learned; for the barriers of art are not closed, no artist being in possession of the perfection to which he should aspire. But good words are more difficult to find than the emerald, for it is by slaves that that is discovered among the rocks of pegmatite."
The Emerald that brings salvation is Love.
Can you have love if you have bias in your heart against your brother? Your father? Can you have faith if you don't have the greatest of these--Love? Can you have hope apart from faith and love?
Salvation is moving the flaming sword from the tree. Each of us have this option and power.
As for the DNA and science. It is impenetrability according to Dodgson and Humpty Dumpty. Man can regain his glory, but not without walking in love with God, not against.
Who finds the emerald. The slave.
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by SuperiorEd
I know the keys to heaven, they lie in the commandments givin by Christ...
Simplicity in itself
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Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
It is the Emerald hidden in the pegmatite. Here are the words of Joseph (PtahHotep). 5th dynasty of Egypt Visier.
"Be not arrogant because of that which you know; deal with the ignorant as with the learned; for the barriers of art are not closed, no artist being in possession of the perfection to which he should aspire. But good words are more difficult to find than the emerald, for it is by slaves that that is discovered among the rocks of pegmatite."
The Emerald that brings salvation is Love.
Can you have love if you have bias in your heart against your brother? Your father? Can you have faith if you don't have the greatest of these--Love? Can you have hope apart from faith and love?
Salvation is moving the flaming sword from the tree. Each of us have this option and power.
As for the DNA and science. It is impenetrability according to Dodgson and Humpty Dumpty. Man can regain his glory, but not without walking in love with God, not against.
Who finds the emerald. The slave.
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by SuperiorEd
I know the keys to heaven, they lie in the commandments givin by Christ...
Simplicity in itself
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I realize you must know the passage im talking about, so im not going to post it.
Love is the only absolute, with it you can do no wrong but without it there is no progression.
No worries my friend i understand
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by SuperiorEd
Sounds about right
I didn't say absolute appears anywhere, those were my words
Originally posted by awake_and_aware
reply to post by Akragon
So i ask - Why can't we just love each other without the wacko beliefs?
Besides, it's scary that some countries believe they have "GOD" on their side when they go to war or blow people up on the street.
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by awake_and_aware
reply to post by Akragon
So i ask - Why can't we just love each other without the wacko beliefs?
Besides, it's scary that some countries believe they have "GOD" on their side when they go to war or blow people up on the street.
We can love each other anytime we chose to... It starts with one person and it spreads like wildfire! Love is contagious believe me. The problem is the wrong message is being preached in those beliefs you're speaking of... Its in every religious book out there as far as i've read, but people don't see it, or they refuse to see it. Everyone is worried that thier beliefs might be wrong so they stick to what they've been taught, instead of reading it for them selves. Some people find death and destruction in the bible and assume its God that commanded it. The simple fact is, God never had a reason to harm one of his own creatures. There is a cycle of life and death, which is painful and glorious. We all live, we all die, we all return home. And we may return to the physical world for more lessons if its needed. People get all wrapped up in trying to unravel the mystries of the bible when its all there for you to read....Yet somehow many still miss the message
Such is life though, i guess some arn't meant to understand...