posted on Apr, 22 2011 @ 01:58 PM
Reply to Sorens Despair
If God holds no imperfection within him, and he was the entirety of the universe before Genesis, then how would the knowledge of imperfection
exist to a level that he could create? He must have had knowledge of imperfection in order to create the imperfect. And, since all he knew was
himself before creation, then the knowledge of imperfection must have existed within himself in order to be created (recreated) in humanity.
Or, if the knowledge of imperfection came from his understanding of the timeless universe (the future after creation), where he knew that he would
create an imperfect being.
The ultimate point is that God created something imperfect. In order to do that, he would have needed to recognize his own imperfection.
Just a theological inconsistency.
Not exactly. You don't have to have knowledge of something imperfect to create something imperfect. The builders of the WTC when they built it didn't
know that the towers were going to fail under pressure. Or the titanic...
The ultimate point is that God created something perfect that couldn't maintain perfection. It's not His fault, it's ours, especially considering the
fact that He outlined everything we had to do in order to maintain that perfection and we still failed.
The 1972 Miami Dolphins had a perfect season...but what happened in 1973? You're right, they failed to maintain that perfect record. It doesn't negate
the '72 season though....
In fact, your argument is quite insane. In almost every aspect of life today(engineering, national sports, etc etc), knowledge of imperfection works
the other way around. We examine known faults, known points of weakness, and strengthen them. We work with imperfection in order to achieve
"perfection". We don't simply see the faults and still continue on with the work as is. We work through the problems and solve them. Knowledge of
imperfection leads to a more stable or "perfect" creation. If God were to have knowledge of imperfection, we would expect to see a (more)"perfect"
creation...but since we know that man is not perfect, it is safe to assume (theologically) that God does not have knowledge of imperfection, but
rather humans do.
We theists see it like this...or atleast I do. God created everything in perfection. Satan was one of these created perfect in all his ways. However,
Satan chose to rebel and thus "created" imperfection. Satan introduced rebellion, lies, deceit...he created what is known theologically as "sin". He
was not created with "sin" in him, but rather created it. This is why he is called the "Father of lies" or "Father of sin".
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