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posted on Apr, 19 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by Lindarm
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JFK knew too much, i.e. about the Rothchild's and the banking cabals and globalists, and their plans. He made a speech in which he talked about secret societies.( www.youtube.com...
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That's a really cool speech. The problem is, if you research the actual speech, the one that is ubiquitous on youtube and sites like these is well, it's pretty much a fake. It is heavily edited. The actual speech in its entirety, unedited, is obviously about communism...unless JFK was hiding the "NWO" aspect within a speech allegedly about communism. But then you are heading into a whole new level of conspiracy theory.
That being said, JFK made so many enemies within the US gov't/military industrial complex/international community/mafia that who knows what really did him in. I'm fairly sure it wasn't Oswald, though.




posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by mwood.....There was also a show (maybe the same one?) that showed where every assassinated US president had a common denominator. They all actively founght to get the federal reserve abolished. ?

The first 3 presidents to be assassinated were Abraham Lincoln (1865), James Garfield (1881), and William McKinley (1901). The Federal Reserve was created in 1913, so it is impossible for these 3 presidents to have been assassinated because "they actively fought to get the federal reserve abolished".
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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:02 AM
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Just how much did he know?...

Kennedy 'touring' The Nevada Test Site:


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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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Possible reasons JFK was hit...

Wanted the USA to issue currency, not "the Fed."

JFK fired Allen Dulles and talked "privately" of dismantling the CIA. Just on the basis of self-preservation, CIA would have wanted him taken out. The firing of Allen Dulles was an extreme humiliation for Dulles. JFK even made the fired Dulles give him a tour of the new CIA facility at Langley --- the ultimate humiliation of Dulles.

CIA perceived that JFK turned his back on and betrayed the Bay of Pigs operatives (resulting in deaths and torture) and then blamed CIA for failed operation. He was asked desperately for air support and declined, leaving operatives stranded, sitting ducks for Castro. This caused extremely bad blood between JFK/RFK and CIA/Cuban exiles. When operation turned into a demand for full scale invasion, JFK felt double-crossed by Dulles because JFK was not briefed about this specific eventuality by Dulles. The Bay of Pigs operation, approved by Eisenhower, was Richard Nixon's "baby." Nixon and George H. W. Bush were very heavily involved in planning the Bay of Pigs operation. Jack Ruby was one of the gun runners for supplying the Cuban exiles prior to the operation.

Wanted to get the heck out of Vietnam ASAP. Withdrawing completely from Vietnam would have amounted to many billions of dollars of lost profit for defense contractors.

Bobby was increasingly humiliating the mafia. This meant that a super secret black ops faction of CIA, a "renegade" faction, could have contracted the hit via the mafia. JFK was reportedly screwing Judith Exner, the girlfriend of Chicago mob boss Giancana. Any mob boss at the high level of Giancana had the ways and means to murder anyone, anywhere on Earth.

The reason that is the most compelling? Taking untold trillions and trillions of dollars away from "the Fed" by cutting them out of the U.S. domestic currency market. This switch of monetary power from "the Fed" to the U.S. government backed by U.S. assets would have been totally unacceptable to "the Fed." They could not afford for this switch to happen, so they switched heads of state from JFK to LBJ, who played ball. LBJ also made sure the defense contractors got their war for profit in Vietnam. LBJ also put Dulles on the Warren Commission panel and was quite respectful of the former head of CIA.

Draw your own conclusions. In my opinion, the UFO thing didn't figure into it and there would have been many ways to block any space exploration partnership with the Soviets. Congress would never have allowed any kind of partnership with the Soviets at that time.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 10:12 AM
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What I think about this



i.imgur.com...



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by bookmandh2
JFK wasn't killed because he requested UFO documents from the CIA. He was killed because after he read the UFO documents, he felt the American public needed to know. He believed Americans had the right to know and could handle the truth. He was on the verge of UFO disclosure when the CIA had him killed.


Sooo, nothing to do with the bay of pigs issue, cutting off of the financial well from Cuba that was giving a lot of people a lot of money for casinos and other entertainment, nothing to do with purge on corruption (that's a little ironic) that meant he had probably a lot more enemies than friends? Nah, can't be, got to be something that can't be so easily documented can it - too easy I guess.
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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by All Seeing Eye

Originally posted by liejunkie01

Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
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Why didnt we just hunt these vermin down at the time? It was obvious to the truthers of the day, Im sure.

Because maybe they didn't realize how deep the conspiracy was rooted in the power structure at the time. In other words, the government of the US was already infiltrated and overthrown. Kennedy merely was trying to return the country to the people. He himself, it appears, did not realize the full extent of the "Black Spiders Web" of conspirators. In any case you can not fight an enemy that you cant see, or even realize exist.



It is obvious to me that the Nazis were (are) still in control.

The Nazis are the power structure you are looking for.


Nazis? Really? The Kennedy family was admirers of Hitler. How could it be Nazis?

Interesting note I just found,

Jacky Kennedy, was born to a Jewish mother, hmmmmmmm.
Mrs. Jacqueline Kennedy (née Bouvier) was a Jewess, a fact well hidden, but revealed by her cousin/step-brother, Gore Vidal, in his autobiography:

www.realityreviewed.com...

Upon viewing Jackie's movements in the seconds before and after the head shot it now appears she had more to do with it than one might think. I do not believe she was directly involved in the assassination, but I do believe she had foreknowledge of the event. Her actions immediately after the head shot are illogical unless she was the one to be the final judge that Jack was dead, and this would be signaled by her getting up with that highly visible pink dress.

It is said she got up and went to retrieve part of Jacks skull, but how could she know? She started up upon the final shot after checking Jack, then callously pushing him out of the way so she could get up. SHE NEVER LOOKED TO THE BACK OF THE CAR BEFORE STARTING TO MOVE! to even see if their was something back there to retrieve. She started moving to the back of the car, before looking.

Zapruder, Jack Ruby, Jacky O, were not Catholics, and they were certainly not Nazis! So, what were they?




Obviously you did not read my post and the other poster's comments before you went on the attack.

From the first post that I replied to.



Because maybe they didn't realize how deep the conspiracy was rooted in the power structure at the time. In other words, the government of the US was already infiltrated and overthrown.


Here is my response.



It is obvious to me that the Nazis were (are) still in control.

The Nazis are the power structure you are looking for.



Here is part of your reply to me..I do not recall calling anybody Catholic...



Zapruder, Jack Ruby, Jacky O, were not Catholics, and they were certainly not Nazis!


I did not call any of these people Nazi's. I said that the Nazi's was the "evil" power structure at the time. I do not know who or what they are. The Nazi''s can have non Nazi's working for them. Anything to get the job done. But I guess that you cannot fathom the idea of another explanation to your obvious "figured" out explanation.

Yes I do believe that Nazi's were still powerful and wanted it their way. They just had to go about another way of doing it.

I never called anyone a Nazi. I do not know who "they" are. I hope this clears it up a little for you.


You are the one saying that Jacky had knowledge or played a part in the ordeal.


And to think you went on the offensive about my comment about the Nazi's.....

Your response to my comment is moot.
.......Please read posts well before replying. It makes for a better conversation.
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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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You know, sometimes I do not read everyone else s reply's, because I SOMETIMES like to use my own mind. I know, I know, its not something we should be doing, we should just follow the sheep in front of us.

Attack you? Never entered my mind, but, I do attack the misuse of the word Nazi. Even though it is a known fact that Nazis were incorporated into our government and intelligence communities does not mean it was a Nazi conspiracy. Far from it, in my humble opinion. Nazis are just another phantom to go chasing after, just like aliens and the driver shot him. The new one is Jacki O shot him. Boy, does it never end.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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I just heard this on news channel in ITALY...
They said " He may have discovered a terrible truth about ufos ".

Obviously my brother compared the existance of aliens to the existance of Santa and tooth-fairy...simply absurd the way he thinks!!!
Its the most possible thing ever in reality, the chance for aliens to exist.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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It is all good. In my own opinion, I believe that the CIA was infiltrated by second generation Nazi reformist's. I believe that it was the CIA that did him in. I think that Johnson wanted to be president and his "pals" in the CIA wanted their war. This is what I think that Kennedy's assanation is about. Aliens, mafia, and everything else was thrown in for disinformation. I believe we will never know the real truth behind it. "They" did a hell of a job covering it up.. Therefore my conclusion is the CIA is really the only organization capable of doing such a "great"(for a lack of a better word) job of concealing it.

No hard feelings. We all have our opinions and to tell you the truth I think that George H Bush is the only person alive that knows the real truth.
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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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There are some interesting tapes at the Kennedy library online where he confronts the CIA over the military budget in 1963.

Kennedy meant well, but he comes across as very naive in the discussions concerning the Cuban missile crisis, apparently believing the media reports himself and accusing the CIA of misleading the country.

Undoubtedly Kennedy would have been aware of the Bell aviation program along with the technology relocated from Germany after WW2. He may have misunderstood the esprit de corps that existed between the German scientists that were moved into the Russian aviation/rocket programs and those moved to the US programs after WW2. An adult such as Kennedy in his position should have understood and respected the situation.

The assassination seemed awfully made for TV in my recollection of the event, visceral enough to captivate young males while still transparent enough to provide some disclosure about shadow government.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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I believe that it was the CIA that did him in. I think that Johnson wanted to be president and his "pals" in the CIA wanted their war.


That sounds kind of prechoreographed if you think about it. We had "Eisenhower" for president in the 50's and 15 years after the end of WW2 would be time enough for some trust to be built and political power to evolve.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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Calling them second generation Nazis is probably closer to the truth, ill accept that
Or, maybe, NeoNazis lol lol

I don't know if I believe George is the only one alive who knows the truth. There are too many out there working overtime to discredit certain findings, they would have to know the truth in order to cover it up with bogus ridiculous conspiracy scenarios.

I was going to say anyone who is interested in learning the truth of the Kennedy assassination need only spend a couple of weeks researching it, but that would be inaccurate. It took me over 2 very long and hard research years to discover the "Direction" the truth lay in. But that would not have been possible if I had only researched the Kennedy assassination without looking into other pertinent areas in history.

I do see the dilemma, and to me, its like bringing a knife to a gun fight. I sure wish I could go into this line of thought, but, things being the way they are, makes that impossible.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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Spot on.


TPTB went after JFK in Chicago, Miami, and finally executed their plan in Dallas. The actual planning occurred in the early fall and the take down order for JFK was in place at least a month prior to his UFO Speech. The attempt in Chicago was scheduled for November 2nd, and Miami, November 18th.

UFO's were the least of JFK's "problems".



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 03:41 PM
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UFO's were the least of JFK's "problems".

I have to agree on this point.

I would strongly suspect that the the one thing he was most worried about was what he put forth in the secret society speech. It contained all the subjects he was concerned about, but in a format that was the least accusing with the greatest ramifications of the time, and of our own. He demonstrated to the audience, and the "Owners" he was fully aware of them and their intentions, and what he intended to do about it. It was John F. Kennedy's presidential declaration of war against the "Global" powers.




posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by Bordon81
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I believe that it was the CIA that did him in. I think that Johnson wanted to be president and his "pals" in the CIA wanted their war.


That sounds kind of prechoreographed if you think about it. We had "Eisenhower" for president in the 50's and 15 years after the end of WW2 would be time enough for some trust to be built and political power to evolve.


Here is Eisenhower's farewell speech. He warns us of the Military Industrial Complex.

www.youtube.com...


Who's war was the Vietnam war? I believe it was the CIA's. They wanted their war. Kennedy was not going to allow it. The CIA tried everything they could to escalate the war in Vietnam and in Cuba. We all know the events that happened in Vietnam after Kennedy died.

I think you are seriously under estimating the greedy, money and power hungry elites. Look throughout history and see how many power struggles went on. Allies turn enemies. That is the name of the money and power game. Power struggles will never cease to exist. The only thing that evolves with politics is the methods used to persuade people that they are doing the right thing.

The only thing I believe that was prechoreographed, was the ability of TPTB to distract the citizens from their actions..The nice cars and the american dream and early rock n roll was more important that politics. Just like today. We let them get away with whatever they want. They know this. All you need is a good enough distraction...The distraction is the "me" factor. If it does not directly affect me, then I am not concerned. I am going to wash the car and buy some new shoes, to up my social status. Because we can all make a difference.


Just my opinion based on what I see around me today. Nobody cares unless it affects them directly. And I am not talking about higher gas prices. If the television says so, then it has to be right...(sarcasm)..
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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Why didn't JFK sign this document? If it was signed then case closed right?



posted on Apr, 23 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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Just found this on you tube. It defiantly points the finger at another group for the assassination of our president, and it isn't aliens, well, as you will see, illegal aliens!


israel killed kennedy for trying to stop the Israel Lobby in America




Also, I wasn't aware that Rumsfeld was a congressman at the same time, makes me wonder.



posted on May, 1 2011 @ 02:26 AM
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President Kennedy's UFO involvement led to assassination order

June 15th, 2009 4:02 am HADT


Continue reading on Examiner.com: President Kennedy's UFO involvement led to assassination order - Honolulu exopolitics | Examiner.com www.examiner.com...


For the record, Dr Salla published article on this in 2009.

It's obvious it was an operation, no way just a single person. The MIC wanted tensions high with the Soviets, not to have mutually beneficial space involvement. The mob may have had a hand, but likely a hired one.

These documents are certainly supportive of Dr. Salla's claimed in 2009. Strange stuff indeed.





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