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Iran new U.S. whipping boy

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posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 11:23 AM
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www.canoe.ca...

Very interesting read this.




posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 11:41 AM
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Well if U.S.A attacks iran i hope they like losing men, they lost 800 in iraq, iran will do alot better than iraq did in war. Not only is Iran 3x the size we have an actual army and are more prepared for war then iraq, not to mention its Shiite country (something like 85%) so they dont have the Sunni and shiite hating each other thing to get around. Bush is a fool just getting more people to hate him, now hes going from arabs to persians, then hes going after asians in north korea, if one guy nkows how to make enemys i bush.



posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by zi2525
Well if U.S.A attacks iran i hope they like losing men, they lost 800 in iraq, iran will do alot better than iraq did in war.


America won't even think of invading Iran until Iraq becomes more stabilized. However, almost all the American deaths in Iraq came due to the horrible planning of post-Baghdad-capture Iraq. They came on police duty. Your conventional military has no chance whatsoever against an American military invasion, so quit pretending like you guys actually have a chance there. Your only hope of succeeding will be appealing to the American media by continuing guerrilla war in the hopes that they will report that the war cannot be won, and thus the American public will demand withdrawal.

Here's some material on American war deaths and casualties throughout her history.

America's Wars: U.S. Casualties and Veterans
American Revolution (17751783)
Total servicemembers 217,000
Battle deaths 4,435
Nonmortal woundings 6,188

War of 1812 (18121815)
Total servicemembers 286,730
Battle deaths 2,260
Nonmortal woundings 4,505

Indian Wars (approx. 18171898)
Total servicemembers 106,0001
Battle deaths 1,0001

Mexican War (18461848)
Total servicemembers 78,718
Battle deaths 1,733
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 11,550
Nonmortal woundings 4,152

Civil War (18611865)
Total servicemembers (Union) 2,213,363
Battle deaths (Union) 140,414
Other deaths in service (nontheater) (Union) 224,097
Nonmortal woundings (Union) 281,881
Total servicemembers (Conf.) 1,050,000
Battle deaths (Conf.) 74,524
Other deaths in service (nontheater) (Conf.) 59,2972
Nonmortal woundings (Conf.) unknown

Spanish-American War (18981902)
Total servicemembers 306,760
Battle deaths 385
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 2,061
Nonmortal woundings 1,662

World War I (19171918)
Total servicemembers 4,734,991
Battle deaths 53,402
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 63,114
Nonmortal woundings 204,002
Living veterans fewer than 500

World War II (19401945)
Total servicemembers 16,112,566
Battle deaths 291,557
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 113,842
Nonmortal woundings 671,846
Living veterans 4,762,0001

Korean War (19501953)
Total servicemembers 5,720,000
Serving in-theater 1,789,000
Battle deaths 33,741
Other deaths in service (theater) 2,827
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 17,730
Nonmortal woundings 103,284
Living veterans 3,734,0001

Vietnam War (19641975)
Total servicemembers 8,744,000
Serving in-theater 3,403,000
Battle deaths 47,410
Other deaths in service (theater) 10,789
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 32,000
Nonmortal woundings 153,303
Living veterans 8,295,0001

Gulf War (19901991)
Total servicemembers 2,183,000
Serving in-theater 665,476
Battle deaths 147
Other deaths in service (theater) 382
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 1,565
Nonmortal woundings 467
Living veterans 1,852,0001

America's Wars Total
Military service during war 42,348,460
Battle deaths 651,008
Other deaths in service (theater) 13,998
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 525,256
Nonmortal woundings 1,431,290
Living war veterans 17,578,5003
Living veterans 25,038,459



posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 12:21 PM
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Think what you want we will see when the numbers come in. Its not the size of the dog in a fight its the size of the fight in the dog. Iran should just let them walk in and use gureilla urban combat. Its a mistake but your just to proud and think how powerful your country is, dont owrry its just a matter of time before America gets hit and get hit hard, when the time comes for America to be taken out they probably will have an amount of destruction unleashed on them to such an unmesrable rate, nukes are to readily availabel and they cnat fight the world. They can nuke every country if they want they will just end up killing them selves.



posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 12:31 PM
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If you think Iran has a chance in a war with the US you are missinformed. If the American people are behind such a war you think 800 deaths are going to stop them? Look at some of those death counts of wars the american people were fully behind. America is not afraid to lose soldiers if the amercian people are behind them if america is "hit hard" it will only add fuel to the fire.



posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by zi2525
Think what you want we will see when the numbers come in. Its not the size of the dog in a fight its the size of the fight in the dog. Iran should just let them walk in and use gureilla urban combat. Its a mistake but your just to proud and think how powerful your country is, dont owrry its just a matter of time before America gets hit and get hit hard, when the time comes for America to be taken out they probably will have an amount of destruction unleashed on them to such an unmesrable rate, nukes are to readily availabel and they cnat fight the world. They can nuke every country if they want they will just end up killing them selves.


Bla bla bla. Straight from the mullah's propaganda ministry. Just like Saddam predicted the mother of all battles in 1991. Even the guerrilla forces in Iraq now don't have the ability to hurt America strategically. In the strategic realm, 900 deaths is almost negligible. I don't even support the current war in Iraq, and I never have. I always supported the ovethrow of your state, due to the repeated Iranian-sponsored Hizbollah bombings and kidnappings against our citizens and other Westerners. Face it, Iran has no chance, and you've never proven yourselves of having any.



posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 12:51 PM
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the mullahs are history, it is a matter of time. this idea of having the religious islamoidiots running countries has run it's course, it will be exterminated.



posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 12:58 PM
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oh yes, i forgot to mention, if you think Iraq experienced the full force of the western worlds military might, you are sadly mistaken. Iran could not beat saddam in 10 years, the U.S. and allies removed him in a matter of a few months. The U.S. has yet to be angered, the U.S. is quite restrained at the moment, threaten the U.S. with destruction and she will respond in her defense. Enough said.



posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 02:40 PM
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i never said the United States would not take iran, with out doubt they will just like iraq. Im just asying they will lose more men then they did in iraq, i just think its a shame to send more young men to fight for bushs dumb ideas, i know united states is the super power of military i never said they weren't. They will end up losing more men for no good reason, these wars are stupid just pointless killing, they are pretty much giving people the reason they need to join terrorrist organizations.

I personally dont think united states will use nuke's in the middle east, if they do it will make the world take a good hard look at how reliable it is to haver the country with so much power and the only country to sue nukes running the world, could be the start of another world war.

Oh and smoke we did beat Iraq, they tried to take iran, did not work, even after the united states sold the chemical weapons (along with various other countrys).

[edit on 27-7-2004 by zi2525]



posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by zi2525
i never said the United States would not take iran, with out doubt they will just like iraq. Im just asying they will lose more men then they did in iraq, i just think its a shame to send more young men to fight for bushs dumb ideas, i know united states is the super power of military i never said they weren't. They will end up losing more men for no good reason, these wars are stupid just pointless killing, they are pretty much giving people the reason they need to join terrorrist organizations.

I personally dont think united states will use nuke's in the middle east, if they do it will make the world take a good hard look at how reliable it is to haver the country with so much power and the only country to sue nukes running the world, could be the start of another world war.

Oh and smoke we did beat Iraq, they tried to take iran, did not work, even after the united states sold the chemical weapons (along with various other countrys).

[edit on 27-7-2004 by zi2525]


Whats wrong with rooting for the underdog? Hold your ground and stand by your word. I would tottally disagree with any further wars unless the country agresses against us. We are only making more enemies maybe it would be time for a wake up call that we can't take everyone on.. go ahead call me un patriotic.



posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 02:50 PM
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Well you guys will do better post-invasion. Well technically we can nuke you guys if we want to. And nobody will do a thing. You know why, we have a half insane idiot in charge with a couple thousand nukes. Nobody in their right mind we dare retaliate unless we attacked them directly. So if we wanted to we could vaporize the whole thing of Iran. Are we, no. Does anybody outside of the Bush Administration want to go to war with Iran besides Isreal, no. So the only country Iran needs to watch out for is Isreal, unless Bush gets reelected, in that case cough up you oil or die



posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by SoaringFalcon

Originally posted by zi2525
i never said the United States would not take iran, with out doubt they will just like iraq. Im just asying they will lose more men then they did in iraq, i just think its a shame to send more young men to fight for bushs dumb ideas, i know united states is the super power of military i never said they weren't. They will end up losing more men for no good reason, these wars are stupid just pointless killing, they are pretty much giving people the reason they need to join terrorrist organizations.

I personally dont think united states will use nuke's in the middle east, if they do it will make the world take a good hard look at how reliable it is to haver the country with so much power and the only country to sue nukes running the world, could be the start of another world war.

Oh and smoke we did beat Iraq, they tried to take iran, did not work, even after the united states sold the chemical weapons (along with various other countrys).

[edit on 27-7-2004 by zi2525]


Whats wrong with rooting for the underdog? Hold your ground and stand by your word. I would tottally disagree with any further wars unless the country agresses against us. We are only making more enemies maybe it would be time for a wake up call that we can't take everyone on.. go ahead call me un patriotic.


Patriotism is blindless (dont know if patriotism is a word). The thing about it is you will follow your country no matter what. Your nothing but a drone, like a god damn lemming, you just follow what ever happens just cause of the country your from, if iran was the aggressor i would have no problem with the war, every country has the right to defend it self. But there is no aggression, its just a matter of time before the U.S.A gets hit by a nuke and every thing they have done to these countrys will be put back on the 3 fold, you cant fight the world. If bush and others keep on this path (not only middle east but north korea ect) Americans are going to become almost like leppers, there will be alot of hate towards america and there will be a time when you turn to countrys for help and no one will be there.

You can go and say it wil never happen ect ect ect. But if the world does not destroy america, america will destroy america its just a matter of time.



posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by cyberdude78
Well you guys will do better post-invasion. Well technically we can nuke you guys if we want to. And nobody will do a thing. You know why, we have a half insane idiot in charge with a couple thousand nukes. Nobody in their right mind we dare retaliate unless we attacked them directly. So if we wanted to we could vaporize the whole thing of Iran. Are we, no. Does anybody outside of the Bush Administration want to go to war with Iran besides Isreal, no. So the only country Iran needs to watch out for is Isreal, unless Bush gets reelected, in that case cough up you oil or die


Well i dont really find it funny that the possibility of nuking us like you do. I did not laugh when the towers went but you seem to at the threat of nuking them. It says alot about your person.



posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 02:59 PM
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Hey were not going to nuke you guys ok. But I'm saying it is an option that won't have as many consequences as people think. Sorry if you took it personal.



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by cyberdude78
Hey were not going to nuke you guys ok. But I'm saying it is an option that won't have as many consequences as people think. Sorry if you took it personal.


Are you saying if you just decided to go to a country and to save you the hassle of invasion nuked them to # it wont have any consequences?

You must know to subdue the whole Iran you need a few of those tined sun shines. How do you think russia, china , pakistan, turkey would feel about having a complete radioactive region next to them?

no consequences? please



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by smokenmirrors
The U.S. has yet to be angered, the U.S. is quite restrained at the moment, threaten the U.S. with destruction and she will respond in her defense. Enough said.


I could not hae said it better my self. Everyone seems to forget that we are doing are best NOT to hurt people, NOT to destroy things, and NOT to cause destruction. We are fighting with both arms tied behind our back...

If we stop restraining ourselves, you would see the real power of the US. If we fought like these terrorists, there would be no one left to fight because we would have killed every last person in any country we wanted.



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by zurvan

Are you saying if you just decided to go to a country and to save you the hassle of invasion nuked them to # it wont have any consequences?

You must know to subdue the whole Iran you need a few of those tined sun shines. How do you think russia, china , pakistan, turkey would feel about having a complete radioactive region next to them?

no consequences? please


What are any of those counries going to do? They won't like it, thats for sure, but do you honestly think that Russia - which had a 100% failure rate for it's nuclear missles in it's last war games - would dare attack the US? Or China, which has less then 100 nukes that can reach the US? Or Pakistan and Turkey? Please - they will grin and bear it. Put up a fuss in the UN at most. US nuclear strategy is preemptive.

Iran has nuclear ambition, and CLEARLY has ties with terrorists. If they do not dissarm, I say bomb them back to the stone age.



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:13 PM
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Well taken in consideration the most of the Al-qaida were from Saudi Arabia it seems fair to me that our country should invade Saudi first and then Iran, we can own the middle east and all the oil.

Can you imagine our own private oil pipe connected from Saudi, Iraq, Afghanistan rich natural gas resources and Iran, Whoa!!!!!We can milk the cows right from the udders.

Yes I have been sarcastic.



[edit on 14-10-2004 by marg6043]


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posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:23 PM
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al-Sadr and the Mullahs of Iran are just subjects Of MI6 and old Elizabeth Regina with tie-ins to Mossad



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:51 PM
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Let me ask everyone who posted here. Who here actually wants to go to war with Iran here?



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