hi just seen this on the propaganda msn dissinfo sight.......



An electrician and former soldier faces the sack for placing a small palm cross on the dashboard of his company van.

Bosses at the housing association where he has worked for 15 years have asked Colin Atkinson to remove the religious symbol because it could offend tenants.

But the 64-year-old has refused to comply with their demands and now the long-serving employee may be forced to attend a disciplinary hearing.

His company, publicly funded Wakefield and District Housing (WDH) - which claims to be a neutral organisation and "among the top 10 employers in the area" - has said allowing a cross would be showing favour to Christianity.

"I'm really shocked and surprised by all of this," Mr Atkinson said. "I have always had that cross in my van. It's a symbol of my personal faith. It's not offensive. It's in a discreet place and I am acting lawfully."

The Wakefield-based not-for-profit organisation launched an investigation after it received a written complaint from a tenant relating to the eight-inch cross made from woven palm leaves.

Mr Atkinson could now lose his job over his alleged failure to comply with company policy which prohibits employees from displaying personal items in the firm's vehicles.

Andrea Minichiello Williams, CEO of the Christian Legal Centre which is supporting his position, hit out at what she termed an "illiberal" and "remarkably intolerant" request.

"Colin Atkinson is a decent and hard-working man, yet after many years of service he has been told that he cannot continue to have a small palm cross in his van," she said. "This smacks of something deeply illiberal and remarkably intolerant. Freedom of expression now needs to be robustly defended. When a man can't display a palm cross in his van in a historically Christian country, it should give people serious pause for thought. Is this the kind of society that the British public want to live in?"

WDH employees who adhere to other faiths are allowed to wear head-dresses and turbans, but the company said all its drivers were subject to the same rules. "We do not allow employees to display any personal representations in our vehicles, although they are free to do so upon their person," a spokesman said. "It would be inappropriate to comment further about this individual case."

Like it or not he works for a private company that is free to enforce their own policies.

He is driving a company vehicle and he has to follow the rules they set.

Originally posted by davesmart
Bosses at the housing association where he has worked for 15 years have asked Colin Atkinson to remove the religious symbol because it could offend tenants.

By "tenants", I assume they mean "muslims".

Originally posted by ThaLoccster
Like it or not he works for a private company that is free to enforce their own policies.

He is driving a company vehicle and he has to follow the rules they set.

What would happen if it was a menorah or a mezuzah (six-pointed star)? The tenant would have been evicted immediately, his employer would have fired him, the local paper would have done a story about the anti-semitism. If the company followed the same rule, they would be run out of business.

Without knowing all the facts, we only have this mans side of the sotry to go on. That said, the facts, as they are, seem fairly straight forward. The company operates a policy of no personal items are to be displayed in company vehicles. It does, however, not have a problem with such items on the desks or on the person of such employees. In order fot the company to initiate disciplinary action, it must have first approached the man and requested he remove the "offending" item. Presumably, he has refused and subsequently is facing action from his employer.

Fairly simple, really. All employers have their own codes of conductand he has breached them. I doubt the company cares about whether it is a Christian, Muslim or Animist symbol. A complaint was made, they investigated and found himk to be in breach of company rules.

If some here suspect this is an issue against a "Christian", then my I suggest you go and find a van of the same company being used by someone of a different faith with something on show and make a complaint. If the company doesn't take similiar action, then yes, you may have a point, until then, this is pretty cut and dry.

If they don't believe in religion, then its just two intersecting lines, if they do, then they value the symbol. If they are of a different religion, then, it could represent a sense of tension, perhaps, like different football teams, but, only different Gods.

I read on ATS not long ago about
a state making it illegal to post a
highway memorial cross beside
the road where a Christian has died.
This was a state law from what I
remember. And also another incident
happened where a Christian billboard
had to be taken down cuz it was
offensive. Then there was the time
that a cities bus lines were to carry
Christian ads and they were sued
and had to take them down. Then I
remember before that how In God we trust
was removed from our coins, our printed
dollars and our US Postage Stamps.

They are trying to remove GOD from society.
Welcome to the Satanic NWO.

This is only the beginning. One day in the near
future, Christians will be hunted down and killed.
This is called the tribulation period and is in the
Bible in Revelation. It was all foretold 2,000 yrs
ago.

PS: and oh btw, let's not forget about the Soros
religious initiative where he is funding an organization
to mix Muslims and Christians under one religion.

This is downright unconstitutional. If it were something pertaining to any other religion it would be fine. I hate watching our rights being trampled on like this.

"We do not allow employees to display any personal representations in our vehicles, although they are free to do so upon their person,"

This, right here. I'm sorry folks, but this is one time where I am going to have to disagree with the majority of you. A company rule is a company rule (as much as I hate to say it). If my employer wanted me to remove a picture of my dog in a tutu from the dashboard of their company vehicle, I would, because I kinda like having a job. This case, in my opinion, has nothing to do with the First Amendment, or personal rights. It has to do with the rule that I quoted above.

This is nothing but sensationalism, meant to conjure up some feeling of one particular religion being repressed over another.

Just my $.02.




Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

Well this is the result of the structure we have allowed to be created. The man works for a corporation and thus must relinquish his personal rights to conform to the corporation standard. It is not HIS work van. It is not HIS company name. It is not HIS reputation on the line. He is not even his. He is an electrician of a corporation. I robot they send out to THEIR customers. He has no grounds to complain so long as he is content with this system. He will get paid pennies on the dollar and the corporation will reap the true benefits of his skill and labor while at the same time stripping him of his own identity. Hello Ant, do as the colony demands.

Why we accept this is OUR problem. Once upon a time, if you wanted to learn a skill, you apprenticed under someone until you mastered it. Then YOU went out and started your business doing that skill. You built your reputation and YOUR business flourished or faltered based on your customer satisfaction. Either way the freedom was in your hands to do it your way.

Then to control competition, Masters of various skills established guilds and a recognition process. To learn a skill in a certain area, you had to join a guild. Once a Master of the trade, you paid the guild a percentage of your wage for the privilege of doing business in a certain area. The guild worked hand in hand with the King to ensure that no one who was not a guild member would be allowed to do business in the Kingdom by paying a stipend to the King.

Corporations are merely a grandiose evolution of guilds.

Ah, but we like it this way. Who wants to be free any way. No one wants any free carpenters, or free electricians, or free masons running around raking in the profits from their own labor. How would the state benefit off of this? How would wealthy investors sit on their ass doing nothing but spending money on your shackles benefit? You would be dangerous if you were free. You might realise you do not need the system any more. Just a skill and a bit of honesty to do it. Can't have that now...

With Love,

Your Brother

Another example of how Christians are the most persecuted group of people in all of history.

Originally posted by BeenieWeenie
Another example of how Christians are the most persecuted group of people in all of history.

When Christians are nailed to the cross, then they can cry they are being persecuted. This is not an example of persecution. The system of corporation is the persecution of Man.

With Love,

Your Brother