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NEWS: China Shuts Down 700 Porno Web Sites

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posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 01:07 AM
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What bothers me about most of these responses is not the fact that you want your freedom defended, its that you want your porn defended. Pornography is sex. Plain and simple I don't know what is so intriguing about watching two people get it on or one person or whatever, but I think, personally, that it should be limited to the bedroom, or whatever room in your house that is private. No one needs to see that, and no one should be watching other people do it. Do you feel like a peeping tom? A pervert? That is what I think when people talk about watching porn.




posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by they see ALL
IF america started to shut down porno sites like china did, AMERICA would be stripped of yet ANOTHER freedom...

china is NOT free so the government CAN do this and the people HAVE to accept...

america IS free so the government CANNOT do this and the people do NOT have to accept...



Somebody is apparently eating the propaganda dogfood. Try opening a business in China and then one in America and talk to me about free. I doubt you will be talking much about pornographic websites after that sort of wake-up.

What is free? Is it "You can do it" or "You can do it if you are rich enough"

In China, you can do pretty much anything. But they are pretty stubborn about morality over there. Personally, I think we could use more of both of those philosphies (freedom and morality) in America



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by deeprivergal
What bothers me about most of these responses is not the fact that you want your freedom defended, its that you want your porn defended. Pornography is sex. Plain and simple I don't know what is so intriguing about watching two people get it on or one person or whatever, but I think, personally, that it should be limited to the bedroom, or whatever room in your house that is private. No one needs to see that, and no one should be watching other people do it. Do you feel like a peeping tom? A pervert? That is what I think when people talk about watching porn.


Isn't the freedom to watch people have sex on film a part of freedom ? You don't agree with it so it's omitted from what you include in freedom?
Maybe you don't get off on it, but obviously a hell of a lot of other people do, and just because you don't agree with it, doesn't mean it's a freedom that should be gotten rid of. Take away one thing, there will be others that will follow. Just because you don't agree with this freedom doesn't mean you shouldn't defend it. As Voltaire once said, " I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" In my opinion, this is a similar instance.


When it comes to morality, which seems to be concerning you here, do you really thing it's up to the government to control morality?
Just teach your kids that sex is taboo, teach them that porn is wrong. You do what you wish, because it's your business, and not the governments. Just as people will watch porn, and don't have to justify it to you or anyone else who disagrees. I think this is an issue of parenting and the government should bugger off.

There are other ways to keep your children from accessing porn than going to such extremes as having the government shut down sites. Talk to them! Watch them! They are your responsibility, not the governments!



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 01:22 AM
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Censor yourself! And if it's your kids, you do the censoring, not the government.

If you want government to censor the porn, what else do you want government to do?

-School them?
-Feed them?
-Clothe them?

Who's the child's mother?
Who's the child's father?

I'll tell you who it sure isn't...

GOVERNMENT



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem
Censor yourself! And if it's your kids, you do the censoring, not the government.



How can you censor something from your kids that you can't censor from yourself? It's EVERYWHERE. You can't search for simple things on the internet without seeing something disgusting. I find it poor that these are issues that parents and in general American citizens have to deal with. Like it or not pornography is wrong. Everything about it is wrong. Just imagine if that was your daughter or your son on that nice little video you are watching. How would that make you feel that other people were watching them do that. Pornography is degrading and its revolting. IMO


Originally posted by parrhesia[

Just teach your kidsthat porn is wrong.


I absolutely will and thank you for your permission. I certainly appreciate it.



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 01:32 AM
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I think this internet pornography issue is over blown and ridiculous. In my opinion all forms of pornography should be legally allowed on the internet.

I mean these are just images we are talking about here. Its ridiculous to try to illegalise images. I mean we arent even talking about actual physical objects here we are talking about electronically stored data 1s and 0s people. So basically what the censors are talking about is banning data. Data is nothing more then a concept and concepts are peoples thoughts and ideas. Thought should not be legislated.

The actual physical acts behind some porno are different story. The image of child abuse is acceptable the act is not. If you want to run a kiddy porn site fine go a head. Dont be surprised though when the feds come knocking on your door to ask you a few questions about potential child abuse.

Please dont bring up the children the internet is not corrupting america's youth lax parenting and the decadent pop culture directed at kids however is.



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 01:39 AM
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I was gonna go there, but I decided not to. I would probably say something I regret. The problem is that we are defending something so stupid and trivial when there are bigger issues, bigger freedoms that are taken from us every single day. Pornography should not be debated.



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by deeprivergal
Like it or not pornography is wrong. Everything about it is wrong. Just imagine if that was your daughter or your son on that nice little video you are watching. How would that make you feel that other people were watching them do that. Pornography is degrading and its revolting. IMO


Why is it wrong? You state that like it's a matter of fact. Maybe it is for you, but you say it like it's something universal that a lot of people seem to be missing out on.
Why does it have to be degrading? What if these people actually like having sex and having it filmed?
Revolting? That's a personal opinion.




I absolutely will and thank you for your permission. I certainly appreciate it.


Good for you. You do as you wish raising your children. I say leave the goverment out of it. It's your business how you raise your children.



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 01:44 AM
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I absolutely will and thank you for your permission. I certainly appreciate it.


Good for you. You do as you wish raising your children. I say leave the goverment out of it. It's your business how you raise your children.

That's right it is my business.

Let me ask you something. Would you go to your local public library and pull up a porn website?



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 01:47 AM
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No. I'd go there to look at books. I don't bother with porn. My imagination is just fine, thank you.

Why?



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 01:50 AM
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lol, nevermind. I'm going to drop this because, honestly, it's aggravating me.



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 02:07 AM
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Look at this the internet is like a spider etch leg of the spider is like porn, mp3s, forums, business, entertainment, personal.

Know take away porn you take away one of the spiders legs know the spider is crippled same with the internet porn is like a leg to the internet take it away and you goanna cripple the internet it already happening with free mp3s, free mp3s are a leg to the internet I know its illegal but everyone like free stuff like me from the mp3s arent that free anymore the time I spent on the net dropped maybe with 30%, take away porn also there go a another 30% left with 40% so entertainment it hand in hand with mp3s and porn there go a another 15% not everyone use the net for business so for me some more 10% left with 15% interest in the net, you wont be bothered with the net boom net dies hows the suckers know.

Gust my view on it.


[edit on 28-7-2004 by vaswegpg]



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 04:41 AM
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This pornography thing doesn't seem to be a problem until it lands in your comfort zone. To put things into perspective imagine your children being rumored around at school as sex slaves, call girls, dogs, etc. Even worse I know of a guy that had a girlfriend that switched over to the entertainment business. wink wink. Obviously it didn't sit well with the guy.

Its hard to get your head around something like that. Fiance saying that "she's a lesbian a few weeks before the wedding." The terms sleeping around, slut, call girl have become common terms in societ. Some even refer to it as " playing the field."

The bottom line is parent-teen relationship isn't as simple as it sounds. Parents have little to no control as to how teens act. It's good for the Chinese gov't to be intervening in such circumstances.


XL5

posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 05:53 AM
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I think the govt. should get its act together and lower taxes, fire self wage increasing CEO's and make the quo a little more balanced so that only one parent needs to work, so there is a real parent/kid bonding. Today its the kids bonding with the media and using the media to bond with other kids and teaching them "new" words. I bet amish (sp?) kids get porn too!

However I think every one here are sheep (not going to start a flame war here-u2u's are fine if logical).

Personally I think cops are unfair most times and get away with it, some ppl like them others don't but sometimes they serve the intended purpose. There needs to be a safegaurd in place for anything that can be and is misused.

If any one wants to ban porn, the only question needed is "who ever asked for spam or money grabbing dirty upsellers"

I have no problem with sick tourture/snuff/cruelty to women "porn" getting banned.



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 06:25 AM
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This thread is closed



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 08:36 AM
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Oh boy...:::Yaaaaawn::: What amazes me, is that so many people here act like children seeing porn is ok.....no, it's not. Now, a child seeing a couple having sex, is not going to scar them, it is a natural, healthy part of an adults life...but seeing pornography will. Besides my own experience. I know what it has done to my grandchild....she has become very warped about sex at the age of 5, she's now 7 but has all these odd ideas about male female relationships. A child is simply not emotionally stable or ready to handle such images. Plain and simple.
I think this thread is now closed to me also...



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by LadyV
Oh boy...:::Yaaaaawn::: What amazes me, is that so many people here act like children seeing porn is ok.....no, it's not. Now, a child seeing a couple having sex, is not going to scar them, it is a natural, healthy part of an adults life...but seeing pornography will. Besides my own experience. I know what it has done to my grandchild....she has become very warped about sex at the age of 5, she's now 7 but has all these odd ideas about male female relationships. A child is simply not emotionally stable or ready to handle such images. Plain and simple.
I think this thread is now closed to me also...


Who asks you to show pornt to 7year? Its your own fault if you cant control his internet use. pff



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 09:30 AM
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LOL....I think you need to re-read the post sweetie. The courts have taken her away from her stripper mother and given me custody.....read before spouting off so you know what you're talking about.



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Relentless

Originally posted by Netchicken


Exactly! There is always "My Freedoms" to defend absolutely ANYTHING, coupled with how it is always someone else's fault if somthing goes wrong (even if I stub my toe). No one takes responsiblities for their own actions anymore.

[edit on 27-7-2004 by Relentless]



You mean like its someone elses problem that you cannot take time monitar your childrens internet access? I have raised 4 kids without having to have the government decide for me what they should or should not see.

I DID. Yes thats right, I took time out from my life to actually spend time and talk to my children. When you google a word or phrase a description of the site comes up, doesnt it? Some will slip through of course just like they are exposed to it from other kids at school, just like drugs and real sex. If you are there for them it will turn out all right.

[edit on 28-7-2004 by Amuk]



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 10:12 AM
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I applaud Chinese government actions to protect the interest of public.
Freedom has limit.



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