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The Ox-Files: 'Mass cow sacrifices by aliens' sent White House into panic, FBI records reveal

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posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 07:52 AM
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Cows were sacrificed by aliens sending the White House into a panic declassified FBI files have revealed. It is claimed that more than 8,000 cows were abducted by UFOs before they were mutilated and thrown back down to earth over the southern United States during the 1970s. The memo is one of thousands of previously unreleased classified files that the bureau has made public in a new online resource called The Vault.


Anyone else get the feeling that these FBI files aka , the vault , is nothing more then a whole lot of dis-info ?




posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 08:11 AM
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No, not disinfo. Cattle mutilations have been reported by ranchers and covered for decades.

But, are we ever going to come across anything earth-shattering in the vault? Absolutely not. We'll just get all sorts of suggestive reports made to and by FBI agents on certain topics, but no official confirmation of anything we're looking for.
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edit on 4/17/2011 by Praetorius because: I am sofa king we Todd did.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 08:11 AM
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It would make sense that the FBI has some hidden agenda in regards to making this information public, or should I say, possibly MAKING this "information".



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by Max_TO
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Cows were sacrificed by aliens sending the White House into a panic declassified FBI files have revealed. It is claimed that more than 8,000 cows were abducted by UFOs before they were mutilated and thrown back down to earth over the southern United States during the 1970s. The memo is one of thousands of previously unreleased classified files that the bureau has made public in a new online resource called The Vault.


Anyone else get the feeling that these FBI files aka , the vault , is nothing more then a whole lot of dis-info ?



Yeah , the files were proven fake, I read about it on another thread a few days ago on this site . It's sad when people go through all that trouble to perpetuate a hoax and gain absolutely nothing out of it . It puts a stain on the truth that is out there ,,,,,great post



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 08:27 AM
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The Daily Mail article quotes from "The Sun" newspaper in England. (For those not familiar with it, "The Sun" not exactly a peer-reviewed scientific journal...).

The relevant article from the The Sun newspaper is at the link below:

www.thesun.co.uk...



SENSATIONAL declassified FBI files reveal how the White House was sent into a panic by suspected alien sacrifices of COWS.

More than 8,000 cattle were snatched by mystery aircraft, mutilated, then dropped from the skies above the US south west in the late 1970s, special agents told their directors.

Terrified farmers in New Mexico, Nebraska and Colorado feared they would be ripped apart by extraterrestrials in flying saucers.

Details of the probe are spelled out in internal memos released by the FBI online.

The cattle killers took sick TROPHIES including tongues, lower lips, sex organs, eyes and ears. In some cases the doomed animal was drained entirely of its BLOOD.

One investigator set out his theory: "These animals are picked up by aircraft, mutilated elsewhere and returned and dropped from aircraft.


The article on The Sun's website (used as the source for the Daily Mail's story in the OP) is a ghastly mix of untrue statements and incomplete/misleading statements.

As a Brit, I'm embarrased that our national media has stooped to (at best) very low levels of basic fact checking.


All the best,

Isaac
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posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 08:29 AM
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If the alien abduction/mutilation thing is true, then why did they (the aliens) even bother to dump the bodies back from whence they came?
One would think they would just get rid of the evidence, unless of course somebody or something wanted this to be an issue.

Why the sex organs and the tongue?
Maybe the aliens are a tad perverted?
Did they use the 'probe' at all?



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 08:58 AM
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Oh absolutley,the FBI files are indeed disinfo.
Why are they being revealed and the government not doing anything about it when they haven't said they will give disclosure?



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by Toadmund
If the alien abduction/mutilation thing is true, then why did they (the aliens) even bother to dump the bodies back from whence they came?
One would think they would just get rid of the evidence, unless of course somebody or something wanted this to be an issue.

Why the sex organs and the tongue?
Maybe the aliens are a tad perverted?
Did they use the 'probe' at all?


The average, unenlightened person that knows nothing of how a modern livestock slaughter house operates would probably be even more shocked to learn of those grusome and gory details than the few details we have of the ET "mutilations.". There is hardly a comparison. We do thousands of these a day as a matter of no consequence. Put this situation into perspective.

We like to think that ETs are beyond being carnivores--better than us--and perhaps they are because the evidence tends to show they are not after muscle meat as a rule.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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Page three is always nice though.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 09:31 AM
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First off, LOL @ "Cattle Star Galactica".

Second, these organs are often eaten by predators, nothing new about that.

An off-gassing carcass can easily expand enough to tear sinew and flesh--giving the appearance of "laser surgery".

I'm sure an abundant food source caused an outbreak of predators, I've seen food surges cause amazing population explosions in certain animals. Birds, coyotes, even caterpillars.

Then again, maybe aliens were intelligent enough to get their mutilation quota filled before the electronic revolution ushered in scores of camera-wielding skywatchers.

No proof, no alien.

I may have been led to water, but I ain't gonna drink.
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posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Tharsis
First off, LOL @ "Cattle Star Galactica".

Making a joke about a serious issue hardly amounts to a scientific argument to discredit the phenomenon.

Originally posted by Tharsis
Second, these organs are often eaten by predators, nothing new about that.

What's new is is that the carcases show no blood on the ground or even in the flesh. Perhaps when you can explain how predators bite and tear at flesh without causing the cow to bleed, I will take your comments a little more seriously. But I know you can't.

Originally posted by Tharsis
An off-gassing carcass can easily expand enough to tear sinew and flesh--giving the appearance of "laser surgery".

One of the silliest comments I have ever seen at ATS. Flesh cannot "tear" into sharp edges, as though cut by a laser.

Originally posted by Tharsis
I am sure an abundant food source caused an outbreak of predators, I've seen food surges cause amazing population explosions in certain animals. Birds, coyotes, even caterpillars.

Why so sure? Where's the statistical evidence? Of course, there is none. You just made it all up as a self-serving argument. Quite apart from the fact - yes FACT - that ranchers unfortunate enough to experience these attacks claim that wild animals could not have caused the types of wounds in their killed cattle.

Originally posted by Tharsis
Then again, maybe aliens were intelligent enough to get their mutilation quota filled before the electronic revolution ushered in scores of camera-wielding skywatchers.

Desperate to come up with a sound explanation for cattle mutilations, you have to resort to the tired tactic of belittling the topic so as to give the phony impression you satisfactorily explained it.

Originally posted by Tharsis
No proof, no alien.

No proof animals predators did it, either.

Originally posted by Tharsis
I may have been led to water, but I ain't gonna drink.
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That's because, sounding by the pathetic nature of the arguments you give, you don't WANT to drink.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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It would be interesting to find out if any studies have been done that compare cattle deaths that are considered "natural" (i.e. old age, infirmity, predation, etc) to those that get categorized as a Mutilation Case. A comparison between the two types of classification would be intriguing. Though I do find it disturbing whatever the cause(s), but certainly it's more disturbing to think Aliens are the cause as - stated a post or two above - many of us do tend to hope they are better than us, and advanced to the point that slaughtering living creatures for food is no longer necessary (or practiced for any reason).

As for the question of why they would return the carcass after they've removed the parts they are interested in, my theory is that they do this out of a sense of...what's the word here, fairness? In other words, they know we eat the poor creatures, so perhaps they think we won't get as upset if they return it to us. And as odd as the reported facts are (i.e. no blood, eyes, rectum, sex organs removed), I can't ever recall reading anywhere that the parts we typically eat were removed (but someone correct me if I'm wrong!). So while I'd expect a pack of coyotes to eat the muscle tissue, perhaps the Aliens think that as long as we can still get Steaks and Hamburger from it, that it's okay for them to get the parts they are interested in as long as they return it.

This actually brings up a another question - and potentially a way to see if the theory has any internal consistency. I think I have seen it reported that Cattle Mutilations are not restricted to the US. So, *IF* the Aliens truly return a carcass after performing research on it - ostensibly to minimize any anger or nutritional deficits to the primitives that eat them (us) - then I wonder if there are cases of Cattle Mutilation in India, or other areas of the world where the humans regard cows as sacred and don't eat/kill them? I also remember watching a documentary about some place in Africa where the people drink the cow's blood for a source of protein, and when they want meat they will - and this is horrifying to me - just slice a bit of rump off the poor thing - but not actually kill the cow for either activity.

Thus, if the Aliens are trying to be what they consider courteous and sensitive to the local culture, then I'd expect either location to not have cattle mutilation deaths like the US has. And yes, I'm fully aware that this probably sounds ludicrous, but in the context of the theory, I think it's sound. Then again, I'm still fairly new to ATS and the whole "Aliens are Real" line of thinking, so forgive me if these questions have come up and have been answered before, or if I sound like a total wacko (I really try to stay grounded in reality - or the version of it that I think is the norm for my friends and such, but you guys know how that goes!). :-)

It is almost humorous (apart from the animal deaths of course) - imagining these EBE's trying to understand our culture and culinary habits and thinking the primitives "down there" won't mind them conducting their research as long as they return the carcass so we can still have our Big Macs and Angus Steaks. :-)

Almost right neighborly of them, isn't it? :-)


edit on 17-4-2011 by NewtonDKC because: Basic corrections! :-)



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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I think we're wandering some from the topic at hand. But while we're in the neighborhood: It's a shame that the Daily Mail/Sun-type newspapers want to put this kind of spin on a serious topic. These cattle mutilations have been robbing a lot of ranchers of their livelihood for years, and they're desperate to find an answer to it. Even the most cursory investigation will show that it's a profound mystery to them; the simple answers have been suggested many times and they're not acceptable. And simply "declaring" solutions and dismissing the whole thing as a comedic sideshow doesn't help deny ignorance, if I may say so.

My opinion is that the FBI knew exactly what they were doing by opening this so-called "Vault." We're seeing the results they intended, and it ain't pretty....



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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This is a weird one, good thread I will enjoy reading differing opinions on this but personally tend to side with your main question in the OP.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Ex_CT2
I think we're wandering some from the topic at hand. But while we're in the neighborhood: It's a shame that the Daily Mail/Sun-type newspapers want to put this kind of spin on a serious topic. These cattle mutilations have been robbing a lot of ranchers of their livelihood for years, and they're desperate to find an answer to it. Even the most cursory investigation will show that it's a profound mystery to them; the simple answers have been suggested many times and they're not acceptable. And simply "declaring" solutions and dismissing the whole thing as a comedic sideshow doesn't help deny ignorance, if I may say so.

My opinion is that the FBI knew exactly what they were doing by opening this so-called "Vault." We're seeing the results they intended, and it ain't pretty....


If you ask me "the vault" is just a smoke screen, to keep enquiring minds busy. They probably monitor these boards and laugh at some of the things people come up with based on such little and often unfounded info.

It would be a good exercise in judging gullability or the processes of mass hysteria. Which could come in handy when ever they want to send us one way while they go the other.

I dont even entertain it. If i wanted to read page after page of BS id read the Sun which neatly brings me back to the OP.

Like what i did there



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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The Daily Mail article quotes from "The Sun" newspaper in England. (For those not familiar with it, "The Sun" not exactly a peer-reviewed scientific journal...).


And that's putting it *very* mildly.

As far as non British are concerned..it's a bit like National enquirer or some other sensationalist supermarket rag.

They do have boobies on page 3 though, so it's not all bad...close though.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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Something I can agree with whole-heartedly....



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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This is silly. So many whine for government disclosure and when they began the process then it's another conspiracy?

Make up your minds. This is just the precursor to a disclosure. It's called the desensitization process....

The FBI is the not first. In the last 3 years many countries have been releasing classified documents on UFOs/ETs.
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posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by TheLegend
This is silly. So many whine for government disclosure and when they began the process then it's another conspiracy?

Make up your minds. This is just the precursor to a disclosure. It's called the desensitization process.


That might be true if there were any documents in there that even hinted at the existance of ET'S.
Unless there is and i just havent seen them, in which case you should post a few.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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Ach! Sorry if I went Off Topic - I got all into the Mutilations and not the question of if I think the Vault is Dis-Info (sorry, clueless newbie, this stuff is all so mind bogglingly amazing to me since I realized that yes, I actually do believe in Aliens and that they are already here, etc etc, so forgive me if I tend to get of track from being a tourist all distracted by the shiny stories!). :-)

As for the Vault: My understanding is that all of the information contained therein has been available for years, and that the only "new" feature is a user friendly web front end for making searches and browsing and whatnot easier. So in that respect, not only would it be disinformation - but OLD disinformation at that! :-)

However, and I'll admit this with red cheeks - when I first found out about the Vault I absolutely got caught up in the *apparent* confirmation that the FBI was giving to the whole Aliens/FlyingSaucers/etc subjects. I even emailed links to a few friends with whom I've tried to start discussing related topics, but had to recant them when I found out about the Vault just being a easy search to pre-existing documents. They already think I've gone all Planters so it's not a big deal. BUT - I honestly think they did this knowing *full well* that a whole new generation of newbies would "discover" it and the apparent confirmations it gives.

So, I think they are kicked back and - possibly not laughing at us (the ones with eyes bulging, not you seasoned ATS'ers) so much as watching with interest to see just what sort of ruckus this kicks up. And I think articles like the one in The Sun are exactly what the wanted to happen to see if Society handles the whole idea better now. And if not - if there actually would be riots or civilization starting to fall or whatever - then all it takes is a simple Media Blitz that explains "This stuff has been around for years and it's just documents from people on what the THINK happened - NOT at all any confirmation that the FBI actually believes these ridiculous tales!" And then, presumably, calm and order would return, and they could try again in another 10 years or so to see if the World is ready for Disclosure.

As it is, I think everyone seems to be handling it fine - even with the believers and the ones feverishly emaling links to friends and family that they are vindicated because it's all real. No social meltdown, no riots (at least not because of the perception that the FBI has confirmed ALiens are real).

As such, I think this is actually a pretty big deal. Because we know they did this for a reason, and I think that reason is to gauge if the world is ready for the truth (or as much of it as they are willing to tell). So yes, the people who believe it is confirmation and can now inform every person they know more or less instantly with today's technology with links to "prove" it's real - is EXACTLY what they were banking on. It's actually a pretty smart move when you think about it as it has a sort of built in fail safe in case the world would freak out. Easy to back track if "War of the Worlds II" would have happened. And yet the world is still here.

If I haven't flipped my marbles and all this is real, I think in years to come when the history of disclosure is documented, that we will see this carefully planned release of "The Vault" and the close monitoring of the public's reaction to it, will rate as one of the defining steps for TPTB to move toward Public Disclosure. So while I have no idea when that day will arrive - I do feel we're one step closer to it than before. Progress, however slow, is still progress. :-)




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