Putting It All Together: A theory of historical proportions involving WA,ID,MT,WY,NV,OR and CA.

my believe is that organisations as USGS and EMSC are restricted in giving info to the public..certainly when it comes to society-destruction events.....they will go only public when such an event already has happend...

on ATS are many posters with a clear mind and skills on the subjects...
some posters took an leading role couse there superb skills....and suddenly they were gone !!!!!!!!!
at the yellowstone thread we had shirakawi ...dissapeard...
now the leading /knowledge man at the Fukushima nuclear site redneck seems to be gone to....
www.abovetopsecret.com...
shortly :
westcoast be carefull........

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I kinda knew what your theory would be. Excellent presentation my friend! You deserve applause for this thread

Wish we could get the owner of that Tremor site to extend the arrays down to Long Valley...

I would like to concentrate a bit more on the Nevada swarm, because if what I am suggesting is correct (remember this is just a theory) than the implications are huge. It changes how we look at it.

I think that first we need to go back and check out the foreshocks of the Japan 9.1 quake. That system is the closest to ours (cascadian subduction zone) and that we have such recent history to look at and compare is very unique.

This is what I have been able to come up with. First, let's look at the day of the 7.2 foreshock on 3/9/11

5.3 2011/03/09 08:02:36 38.606 143.103 15.4 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
5.1 2011/03/09 07:56:27 38.849 142.929 10.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
5.0 2011/03/09 07:13:48 38.246 143.108 9.9 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
5.1 2011/03/09 06:25:12 38.299 143.067 10.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
4.9 2011/03/09 06:12:13 38.681 143.022 10.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
4.7 2011/03/09 05:27:06 37.830 145.135 10.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
5.3 2011/03/09 04:45:54 38.543 142.740 27.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
5.7 2011/03/09 04:37:03 38.666 142.991 25.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
5.2 2011/03/09 04:32:10 38.727 143.001 32.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
4.8 2011/03/09 04:15:39 38.857 142.658 12.6 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
5.2 2011/03/09 04:05:53 38.870 142.420 10.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
5.0 2011/03/09 03:19:00 38.795 142.962 19.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
5.2 2011/03/09 03:08:35 38.339 143.097 24.4 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
5.6 2011/03/09 02:57:16 38.402 142.825 17.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
7.2 2011/03/09 02:45:18 38.510 142.792 14.1 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
4.7 2011/03/09 12:03:17 38.343 143.105 10.4 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
5.1 2011/03/09 11:27:49 38.573 143.146 12.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
4.7 2011/03/09 10:13:36 38.724 143.099 10.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
4.8 2011/03/09 08:55:38 38.667 143.055 15.6 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN



I guess I really didn't pay too much attention to the depth of these quakes. I think that perhaps others like myself did not think of these as foreshocks to the subduction zone quake because of the depths. They are not that deep.

Here is a very long list of quakes that fateful day, leading up to the later upgraded 9.0:


MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 22:42:59 37.627 143.801 27.4 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 22:36:57 37.097 143.796 25.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.6 2011/03/11 22:29:42 38.285 142.636 25.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.7 2011/03/11 22:08:14 40.152 142.219 47.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 21:41:58 37.279 142.351 10.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.8 2011/03/11 21:34:25 37.401 141.236 37.1 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 21:00:46 39.048 142.477 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 20:41:24 37.675 143.698 25.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 20:36:10 37.838 142.847 24.9 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 20:34:40 36.993 140.985 25.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 20:23:44 35.818 141.583 24.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.3 2011/03/11 20:11:23 39.025 142.645 8.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.6 2011/03/11 19:46:49 40.472 139.070 10.0 NEAR THE WEST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 19:45:24 37.653 141.548 25.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 19:31:56 36.962 138.367 10.3 EASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 19:24:29 35.770 140.639 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.1 2011/03/11 19:02:59 39.372 142.900 24.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.2 2011/03/11 18:59:15 37.037 138.355 10.0 NEAR THE WEST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/11 18:55:15 35.814 141.657 24.6 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 18:44:06 36.858 141.029 25.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/11 18:43:14 40.139 143.061 89.7 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/11 18:39:34 37.916 143.055 1.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 18:17:06 36.218 141.685 25.4 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.7 2011/03/11 18:11:24 37.118 142.160 13.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.7 2011/03/11 18:02:39 36.793 143.212 24.9 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 17:50:01 37.648 144.991 25.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 17:32:14 37.137 144.572 24.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 17:30:48 37.418 141.099 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 17:23:57 36.015 141.888 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 17:17:00 37.111 144.145 26.4 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.8 2011/03/11 17:15:00 39.016 142.517 51.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 17:12:41 37.564 144.069 25.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 16:55:53 37.779 143.171 25.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 16:34:22 39.376 143.405 40.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 16:20:52 36.157 141.877 25.3 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 16:11:27 39.463 143.577 9.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 16:04:53 39.236 144.320 25.5 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 15:55:23 36.626 142.162 24.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 15:50:59 37.409 142.217 24.9 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 15:46:02 36.022 141.958 19.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 15:42:05 36.066 141.515 15.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/11 15:36:16 38.907 142.722 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 15:32:34 37.216 142.233 25.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 15:19:38 36.233 141.856 25.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.2 2011/03/11 15:13:15 35.997 141.796 18.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 15:01:39 39.082 142.383 26.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.8 2011/03/11 14:56:16 35.979 141.367 25.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 14:54:04 35.919 141.819 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 14:44:08 36.655 140.769 25.1 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 14:26:31 37.431 142.254 13.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 14:20:20 37.947 143.183 25.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 14:10:39 37.575 141.963 25.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 14:00:38 36.151 140.845 30.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/11 13:58:50 36.681 141.776 25.3 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 13:55:28 38.039 142.831 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 13:48:38 38.426 143.061 25.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 13:43:10 38.972 144.209 25.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/11 13:42:27 37.410 142.009 25.3 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 13:34:36 36.249 141.850 35.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 13:31:55 39.152 142.837 25.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.8 2011/03/11 13:16:50 36.304 141.730 30.1 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 13:15:45 37.393 141.882 30.1 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 13:02:43 36.755 141.885 30.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 12:59:21 36.128 141.768 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 12:54:52 38.502 142.120 36.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 12:49:01 36.158 141.711 25.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 12:34:22 36.912 143.736 39.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 12:33:19 38.374 142.590 29.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 12:28:45 36.166 141.664 29.3 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 12:24:37 36.525 141.707 27.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 12:12:53 38.052 142.542 21.6 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 12:04:16 36.351 142.700 38.4 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 11:56:16 36.356 141.504 39.4 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 11:54:02 36.982 142.535 45.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.8 2011/03/11 11:46:47 36.034 141.055 47.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.8 2011/03/11 11:44:28 36.709 142.231 31.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.5 2011/03/11 11:36:39 39.276 142.521 11.6 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.7 2011/03/11 11:21:02 35.759 140.913 25.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 11:16:51 36.614 141.894 36.6 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 11:13:12 36.451 141.789 18.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 11:10:58 35.534 141.856 27.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 11:00:51 37.813 141.481 28.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 10:58:06 39.060 142.213 30.3 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 10:52:08 38.534 143.346 29.9 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 10:45:46 38.466 143.591 41.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 10:35:36 37.044 141.298 25.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 10:28:44 39.447 143.531 29.3 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 10:20:27 36.966 142.289 21.7 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.0 2011/03/11 10:10:35 39.248 142.779 28.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 09:59:57 36.703 142.207 41.6 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 09:47:02 39.685 142.938 29.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 09:42:22 39.438 142.749 30.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 09:37:08 35.877 141.585 29.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 09:09:15 37.717 143.267 36.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 09:04:10 37.299 142.655 30.5 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 09:00:20 37.056 141.966 20.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 08:52:26 36.763 141.910 35.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 08:46:48 37.421 142.453 37.3 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 08:40:56 37.465 141.122 38.6 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.1 2011/03/11 08:31:08 37.428 141.200 25.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.5 2011/03/11 08:19:24 36.200 142.000 19.9 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.2 2011/03/11 08:15:41 37.034 144.612 27.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.2 2011/03/11 08:12:05 36.606 141.557 19.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 08:10:31 36.394 140.631 30.4 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 08:01:59 37.071 142.734 22.6 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 07:56:16 37.130 142.305 34.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.7 2011/03/11 07:54:45 37.742 141.565 45.3 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.8 2011/03/11 07:42:55 36.406 141.919 29.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 07:38:27 39.250 142.783 29.1 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.1 2011/03/11 07:28:12 36.802 141.911 24.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.1 2011/03/11 07:25:33 37.916 144.621 15.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.3 2011/03/11 07:14:59 36.648 141.811 25.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 07:13:47 36.051 142.347 28.5 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.8 2011/03/11 07:11:00 37.899 142.734 30.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.3 2011/03/11 06:57:15 35.758 140.992 30.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.3 2011/03/11 06:48:47 37.993 142.764 22.3 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 7.1 2011/03/11 06:25:51 38.106 144.553 19.7 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.8 2011/03/11 06:15:40 36.186 141.192 35.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.4 2011/03/11 06:07:22 36.401 141.862 35.4 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.4 2011/03/11 06:06:11 39.025 142.316 25.1 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 8.9 2011/03/11 05:46:24 38.322 142.369 24.4 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN


Note that the overall depths are deeper? Is that what we should be looking for? Swarms of quakes deepening and intensifying?

Here is the final and official listing of the 9.0 on USGS:

Magnitude 9.0
Date-Time Friday, March 11, 2011 at 05:46:23 UTC
Friday, March 11, 2011 at 02:46:23 PM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 38.322°N, 142.369°E
Depth 32 km (19.9 miles) set by location program
Region NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
Distances 129 km (80 miles) E of Sendai, Honshu, Japan
177 km (109 miles) E of Yamagata, Honshu, Japan
177 km (109 miles) ENE of Fukushima, Honshu, Japan
373 km (231 miles) NE of TOKYO, Japan

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 13.5 km (8.4 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters NST=350, Nph=351, Dmin=416.3 km, Rmss=1.46 sec, Gp= 29°,
M-type=centroid moment magnitude (Mw), Version=A
Source USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)


Event ID usc0001xgp
USGS source for all above info

Also, most important is the depth of the big quake itself. 32 km. Yes, those of you wondering, it DOES apply to us in the states. We are talking about the same plate. The north American Plate. While the depth changes somewhat in areas, in general we see the quakes along the subducting zones at about the same depth. Between 15 and 45 km or so (based on everything I have seen....if someone has more info, please share!!!)

Here are some supporting articles and info sites:
Article focusing on the subduction zone below vancouver island

Great info mainly on Washignton and Oregon areas of subduction

That last article has a great map. Check it out:



Read the article. It's short. You clearly get the impression that all is NOT known and it is still all guess work as to where it is, how deep it is, where it extends, etc.


There are too many quakes going on right now in Nevada for me to list them all, so I will just show you the 2.5+ ones for today:

MAP 2.8 2011/04/17 20:24:59 38.400 -118.739 0.0 NEVADA
MAP 3.0 2011/04/17 20:07:22 41.047 -123.362 34.5 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
MAP 2.8 2011/04/17 04:18:05 38.394 -118.725 14.7 NEVADA
MAP 2.6 2011/04/17 03:59:59 38.362 -118.761 0.0 NEVADA
MAP 2.9 2011/04/17 02:44:02 38.389 -118.743 10.3 NEVADA
MAP 3.7 2011/04/17 01:19:26 38.401 -118.741 11.8 NEVADA
MAP 3.3 2011/04/17 01:05:03 38.392 -118.722 16.6 NEVADA
MAP 3.6 2011/04/17 00:57:50 38.362 -118.740 14.6 NEVADA
MAP 4.1 2011/04/17 00:55:46 38.369 -118.728 13.2 NEVADA
MAP 2.9 2011/04/17 00:50:41 38.383 -118.735 16.5 NEVADA
MAP 4.6 2011/04/17 00:45:37 38.394 -118.735 15.4 NEVADA

Source

The depth on the most recent one may change, since it just happened. Note the other depths though. I kept that one in Northern california in because of where it was and its depth. The most recent, inlcuding the 4.1 and 4.6 are all around 15 km deep. That is getting towards the bottom of the North American plate, I believe.

reply to post by berkeleygal


Thank you! Lol...I have already sent him another email asking his opinion about it and if it has been discussed/considered.


To the previous poster about people disapearing and being careful: I will throw this out there for the conspiracy followers because this is, after all ATS.

I went on a whale watching tour two weeks ago in the San Juan Islands. We were buzzed (and I mean CLOSE) twice by Homeland security. Here is my picture....was I watching him, or he watching me???




(and yes, I had been in contact with two different geologists who now haven't answered my last, very mellow emails)

reply to post by westcoast


Great job westcoast. S&F&

...seems to me the Japanese Meteorological Center admitted recently that the quakes there activated the volcanoes - will try to find the link.

reply to post by westcoast


Doesn't this thing also stretch to be under the sea coast of WA. Or at least I think there was something on this site about an underwater volcano about a year ago that was releasing some magma of the coast of Seattle or something like that. Does this thing not have pressure valves all over the Pacific North West and even stretching farther then the PNW, such as volcanoes and other hot spots, so if there is a huge quake. Then the pressure will build and have only a few places to vent, and things will get mixed around down there, so who knows what will happen.

Though I really do not pay attention to such things, I do happen to live in WA and right on top of it, so I know sooner or latter something has to give so might as well keep track of it, even if I do it once in a while and with one eye. Because it's like living on top of a sleeping giant. Things will get very interesting when the giant wakes up and starts moving around. S@F.

reply to post by westcoast


On your list of quakes before the Japan event I noticed a swell in the magnitude, it seems like it comes in waves, each time peaking a little higher and dropping a little shallower than the previous wave, hope that makes sense. Awesome work by the way, very intriguing.

Just something I noticed.

Tremor swarm on the 15th

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6e67c5811ada.jpg[/atsimg]

Todays quake near Redding

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/25ed4d7399f9.jpg[/atsimg]

Magnitude
3.0
Date-Time
Sunday, April 17, 2011 at 20:07:22 UTC
Sunday, April 17, 2011 at 01:07:22 PM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location
41.047°N, 123.362°W
Depth
34.5 km (21.4 miles)
Region
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
Distances
32 km (20 miles) ENE (60°) from Willow Creek, CA
33 km (20 miles) ESE (119°) from Weitchpec, CA
38 km (24 miles) SSE (166°) from Somes Bar, CA
56 km (35 miles) NNW (341°) from Hayfork, CA
73 km (45 miles) ENE (67°) from Eureka, CA
321 km (199 miles) NNW (330°) from Sacramento, CA
Location Uncertainty
horizontal +/- 0.9 km (0.6 miles); depth +/- 0.8 km (0.5 miles)
Parameters
Nph= 15, Dmin=37 km, Rmss=0.14 sec, Gp=169°,
M-type=duration magnitude (Md), Version=1
Source
California Integrated Seismic Net:
USGS Caltech CGS UCB UCSD UNR
Event ID
nc71559971

earthquake.usgs.gov...

reply to post by berkeleygal


Great eye berkeleygal. I was going to do a screen shot and post that same day. Thank you! It is one of only a few days since the Japan quake that there have been any tremors and the most recently. I commented on it on my washington thread....there is a definate pattern to those and you are correct. Again, note the depth of that Cali quake. In conjunction with the swarm and what is happening in Nevada....I really think it is all connected.

On the last map that I posted. Look at the southern edge of where they have drawn the subduction zone. This is how it always is....it just ends without any defining edge or explanation. There are ofcourse other faults in the area, but do they really know what is down there and how they all interact? I don't think so.


To the other poster about Washington state. Read my op and the first page or so of my washington state thread (in my sig line). I spoke about that offshore volcano among other things. Yes, the subduction zone goes through the peninsula/puget sound, around Vancouver island and a ways up the canadian coast.

It is massive.

reply to post by princeguy


It makes perfect sense.

Patterns. There are patterns in everything and we just have to step back far enough to see them.

Something I'm not noticing in your post is the location of underground water sources. If a quake this big happens what will be the effects on that. If there is a big source of underground water released the flooding from that alone would dwarf any release of magma and floods are far deadlier than lava flows.

Also would your projection allow for movement of the earth large enough for channels to be created that would allow for the pacific to rush inland. You would need to look at the valleys surrounding the coast as this earthquake, depending on how far off the coast it is centered, will undoubtably release the biggest tsunami the world has ever seen.

I'm thinking that water is going to be the most destructive result if your theory pans out.

reply to post by westcoast


As always well put together. This has definitely motivated me to finish my escape mapping of my area. Since I live in a valley I'll be looking for the nearest high ground away from the dam, and looking for ways to get there that don't involve bridges, overpasses etc.. I'll be doing that after this before I put it off again then I'll come back and read the rest of the thread.

The "dying nasa scientist", left some coordinates which lead to a place in california.

Originally posted by kro32
Something I'm not noticing in your post is the location of underground water sources. If a quake this big happens what will be the effects on that. If there is a big source of underground water released the flooding from that alone would dwarf any release of magma and floods are far deadlier than lava flows.

Also would your projection allow for movement of the earth large enough for channels to be created that would allow for the pacific to rush inland. You would need to look at the valleys surrounding the coast as this earthquake, depending on how far off the coast it is centered, will undoubtably release the biggest tsunami the world has ever seen.

I'm thinking that water is going to be the most destructive result if your theory pans out.

I am quoting this to make sure it gets read. Excellent point. One I hadn't thought of and this is why I think ATS is so valuable. I know of local dams to consider but not underground. I'll need lots of help looking into it. Takers????

Also, the inland flooding/valleys, etc is huge. Another I need help with. I know it has been done for Washington but am unfamiliar with other coastal States. Ofcourse if I am right about Nevada, than the whole of Northern Cali needs to worry about that.

A must see video of what could happen in wa state were a tsunami to hit following mega quake


Alright, I'll be gone for awhile.
I am off to the hospital for stitches. I have my left hand soaking in betadine while typing. I was really stupid and cut it pretty good falling on a glass bottle. A bit worried about the tendon in my pinkie. *sigh*

Meanwhile, let's work on mapping the underground water sources!

Beautifully done!! S & F

I had been noticing what looked to be a pattern myself
The current USGS map shows what looks like a "diamond pattern" covering CA, WA, NV, UT, MT, and WY
USGS
Your thread seems to explain exactly what I had been looking for!! Thanks so much for this invaluable info! It would have taken me years to piece all of that together on my own, and I personally don't think we have that long to look at it all...
Keep up the good work!

reply to post by westcoast


Here's a map of the major American aquifers (underground water sources):

Principal Aquifers

Me and my wife work at GTLC in Wyoming and last year there was a 4.4 earthquake that rocked the Tetons and Jackson Hole. We are going up there again on May 13 th, I will do my best to keep you guys posted on what is happening in the area. Happy posting

I have immediate and extended family spread out all over Oregon, Washington, Nevada, and Idaho and I/we haven't been feeling any of these quakes or anything weird like that.

A pretty common "conspiracy theory" is that underneath California and other parts of the West Coast there are enormous underground cave systems. I've seen several different sources with varying credibility backing such a claim, and Americans have been joking for decades about how Los Angeles and San Francisco could just break off into the ocean and be gone.

If there's validity to any of this then obviously it would hardly be a laughing matter. I don't see an area as densely populated as the US West Coast just up and moving for any kind of danger, unfortunately.

reply to post by westcoast


Very interesting,seems all is indeed moving away from each other with deep embedded fulcrums absorbing gravitational fluctuations through techtonic structure(Plates),so physically our bodies survive any gravitational change,if the plate did`nt then birds would fall from the sky and so would we all,hence the deep embedded activity you mention prior to extreme siesmic activity.
Full absorbtion then rebounding,yep ,contraction and expansion.So changes in gravity contract the inner core ,gases and plasma conductively flow rebound in a expansion of the medium outward toward a weak point in the plates,either volcano or plate to release the energy.The crust globally breathes.
Cool..