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but broken up in parts
To reply to some comments:
That's just the way the cookie crumbles nowadays...nobody cares...and trampeling on people with less social status is just part of the fun apparently, even on a damn website...
I appreciate your expressions here, and am familiar with the member you mention
The vets getting s&f's, well it is partially because of popularity I reckon, but more so imo, most of them write quality posts.
It would be nice if everyone responded to the comments directed at them, but that seems impractical.
However, we should not take it personally, rather we should be grateful for what responses we do get
ultimately, there will always be something and someone to correspond to, maybe just not as much as we would hope for.
and some are just plain weird
and proof is always good, but sometimes lacking, or just completely ridiculous.
Don’t take anything to heart, it’s the internet people say things because they can
I personally reply to most people if i see i have a message, if i open a message then forget to reply
Why is there so much drama in this forum? It's like a TV show. Post your ideas, regardless of how ridiculous they may be. The people that matter are the people that payed attention to them.
THE most intelligent community I have every been a part of
and I think that each member is a valuable source of information. No one should ever be made to feel marginalized.
IMO is that too many here have been ridiculed, made fun of etc for the beliefs in the past in real life and now since they are on the net hiding behind a comp screen they feel the right to be as ignorant as possible because they can conduct themselves in such a manner with no real consequences.
Now I m all for speaking your beliefs. However I am also for listening to everything and not ruling anything out. It just seems that way to many folk here are either...
1. Incapable of listening to anything that goes against their belief and for this reason are
(2.) to conceited or elitist to try and teach, help educate the new comers and would rather just, bash, ignore or complain about them.
Don't come in to BTS
stroke their egos and praise them for being the smartest person in the room.
Short answer: Be yourself. Be patient with strangers. Demonstrate the respect you desire. Understand that a forum is for speech, not offense. Lastly, do not seek offenses that are not actually offered.
What I find difficult is when only a few members post and there is just one post out of the few that doesn't require a reply. If I can't find something to say I feel as if I have blatantly ignored someone, but when the thread has obviously run its course it's ok to thank everyone for taking the trouble to post.
did I even read that op correctly?
THAT is bizarre. IMO people need to get over this childish star obsession. This is a message board.. why are people writing u2u's like the OP received when they dont get pat on the head or validation of their existence stars?
some are foolish enough to judge by a sign up date and play this weird condescending "noob" game
Personally, I wouldnt deal with a person who was so unnaturally obsessed with a message board that they would write u2us or post complaints over not getting their "validation of existence stars". How bizarre...
Read closer, I said I was amazed you recieved a u2u from someone chastising you about responses and stars.. and thats what I was speaking about. But hey, if you want to lump me in with others who ignore newbies... go ahead.
politics differs from the majority here, you'll have to make some adjustments.
If you "feel ignored," then you're doing something wrong.
Originally posted by gdaub23
Ok,I know what some are gonna think by reading the title. I have a feeling that some will take this thread the wron way and might think that Im complaining,but Im not...I am just asking the question, "why cant we here at ATS make all members, new or old, feel welcome instead of feeling like an outsider or that their opinions dont matter?"
I have personnaly seen posts by members saying that they dont even read posts by members that havent been a member for at least 6 months..Why is this? I believe that whether youre new or old that an opinion is an opinion and good points no matter who theyre from should still be heard...Im new but sometimes I'll find newer members post just as good if not better than members that have been here for awhile...I dont see the point of discriminating and making people feel unwanted or that their point of views or opinions arent as important as others..
The only difference I see between newbies and vets are their stars and flags..Newbies need to be giving a chance to get their credability built up so they one day can join the higher ranks one day and not just brush em off because they are new. Everone here was once a newbie and know what I am saying..I thought we all joined this site for our voices to be heard?
I have also noticed favoritism towards other posters. I dont understand why members choose to star and flag a thread a gazillion times depending on who the OP is and their stats. I know people will say this isnt true and the dont pay attention to the who the OP is or look at stats. They'll say it depends on what the subject of the thread is. I have been shot done before on the theory before. But I have seen it happen even if the info provided in the thread was not any better or different then another thread that will end disappearing into the long list without even being noticed sometimes. I believe in giving everyone a shot and not picking and choosing depending how long the OP has been a member...
What got me to write this was a U2U message I recieved from a fellow member that has actually been here for over a year and still feels like shes being ignored..It made me feel horrible and I didnt even mean to ignore her. I mean I starred her posts and everything I just didnt get a chance to respond to everyone and now I feel horrible because she actually made good points and shared her opinions and expeiances with me and she deserverd a response...heres the U2U she sent...
So the questions are.......
How many others feel like their points and opinions get ignored?
Who else sees discrimination on here and why is it okay?
why not make everyone feel like they are a part of something special when they join ATS?
"The true spirit of conversation consists in building on another man's observation, not overturning it."
British politician and writer