Do things happen for a reason or is it up to random?, page 1
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reply posted on 16-4-2011 @ 10:53 AM by Cobaltic1978
reply to post by Ralphy



For every action there is a reaction, so ultimately there are no random happenings.



reply posted on 16-4-2011 @ 11:01 AM by stygmartyrZA
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I have often had this thought, thank you for bringing it up and letting me give you my opinion and thoughts on this.

Suppose you assume that everything in the universe is composed of particulate matter, that each particle as an element has and has had its own perpetual trajectory since the universe was "created". Now each of these elements will have influence on every other element in varying degrees.

Thus the initial creation moment was the first and last outside influencing factor that would determine the starting path of these elements, after that it is up to the laws of physics to decide how these particles arrange, coagulate into matter, form galaxies solar systems, stars etc, and finally arrange down, fractal style into the lives that we live everyday.

So assuming this is true, and that infinite computing power is freely available, using Finite Element Modelling software on this infinitely powerful computer would allow you to determine the exact course of the universe's future and imply that there is no such thing as freedom of choice, that the path of the universe and hence our lives are all simply the product of the interaction of particles, a product that can be measured.

However, the existence of this machine and the measurements that will need to be made as input, would change the very course it was trying to measure in the first place...

oh boy I guess life is more complex than I first imagined.

styg


reply posted on 16-4-2011 @ 11:18 AM by 666InightenMe
reply to post by Ralphy



I also think everything has a reason and is connected in some way. Though it is a very hard thing to explain really. So do think too hard about it or you will wind up like me and gone bonkerz! lol It's too hard to debunk when you think of everything that has happened to you or in life, but then again it is hard to prove......


reply posted on 16-4-2011 @ 05:45 PM by KrypticCriminal
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Let me propose a question.

If you rolled two dice and both showed sixs. Did that happen for a reason or was it just chance?

Now lets say you needed two sixs to win a couple of thousand dollars at craps. Was it fate? were you meant to win the money? or was it just luck?

There are too many variables to say that everything happens for a reaon. However you can attach meaning to any action you can think of. So its a matter of interpratation.

I do agree that every action has consequences, but for something to be calculating the outcomes of every single action as they happen to ensure certain events take place, is too much of a stretch. I prefer chaos theory.
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reply posted on 16-4-2011 @ 06:05 PM by Pointofview
reply to post by yourmaker



Try changing that attitude of yours, and life will change with it. :-)


reply posted on 16-4-2011 @ 11:55 PM by yourmaker
Originally posted by Pointofview
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Try changing that attitude of yours, and life will change with it. :-)


ohhhh so because I think this way, it's instantly assumed I need to change my life, to what, suit your ideas of what it is? my attitude comes with years of bs thinking like this where it boils and gets to the point where you need to hear the truth no matter what you think about it or me as it's deliverer. take it or leave it, but it's right even if I wish it wasn't.
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