Originally posted by PhotonEffect
Originally posted by alphabetaone
Originally posted by PhotonEffect
We should have the cold hard proof by now. But we don't. We're still searching. Some think they've been here for thousands of years... I'm not buying
I agree with some of what you said, (especially the unimaginable, almost unfathomable number of threads on UFO/Alien/Sightings and all the respective
documents and supporting evidence) however, I am a believer of life beyond our own planet. I simply don't believe there are any ET life forms living
amongst us, nor is our Government or any society living with them.
I am more a believer that "they" are likely in the same boat we are; we know it's out there, but we simply can't reach it.
The real evidence, to me, and in reality, is simply mathematics....billions upon billions of galaxy's which house billions upon billions of
stars....mathematically, the likelihood that there is a life sustaining and life friendly solar system is unbelievably high. For it NOT to be true is
more ignorant than it is false (given that).
I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said.
They're out there. Just not here.
There had to be a very distinct chain of events that needed to occur in order for me to exist and have the ability to communicate with you at this
moment in time as we are.
For one thing it took 14 billion years to get to this point. So chances are that other life forms similar to ourselves are bound by the same sort of
constraints as we are...
I can understand both of you guys' point of view and it makes perfect sense - from a certain perspective.
I am no scientist .. I am pretty bad at it actually. I am more of a psychologist and philosopher. I like to study human behaviors, how humans think,
the mind, and that sort of stuff.
And from years of learning about human beings .. it is my current belief that humans of today are strongly driven by their ego of self. Ego makes
ourselves think we are the best, above all others, and that IF we are this way - everyone else must be the same or below us.
Ego blocks us from seeing beyond ourselves. Whenever we see things, we see through the ego - our own perspective. In other words, ego blocks us from
seeing reality as it is. And while it is never possible for one person to see things beyond his or her own perspective .. it is possible for one to
learn to see things in multiple perspectives - by believing what you do NOT believe, by trying out another perspective that is not of your own. While
that perspective will STILL go through your original perspective - it is however a contradiction to your original perspective thus creating different
Another strong belief I have about humans at this point is that we are very ignorant when it comes to many things - such as the universe. We really
should not make too strong of a claim about anything not only because it may not be how reality is - it can also stop us from finding out how reality
is. I think it is very important to always keep in mind to yourself that no matter how much you know - you are still ignorant. And it's not a bad
thing - it's a good thing in fact - in my opinion. Because it allows your mind to accept different points of views, the ability to absorb different
schools of thoughts, more knowledge - than if you think you are all knowing.
With those said (Ego & Ignorance) - my point is ... while I can understand both of your perspectives and it makes sense from a certain perspective.
There could be many other perspectives on how aliens ARE here that also make perfect logical sense. Even if there may not be hard proof (but thousands
of possible evidence) ... it is still a possibility. In other words, I'm just saying to give this thought a chance. You don't have to drop your
original belief - you just keep both beliefs as possibilities (with your original belief as 90% possible and new belief 10% possible).
"For one thing it took 14 billion years to get to this point. So chances are that other life forms similar to ourselves are bound by the same sort of
constraints as we are..."
While this can make sense .. but we also got to count in the possibility that we do not know what THEY may know. As I said, our ego and ignorance make
us think that if we know this much - they must also know the same or less. It is hard for human ego to think that others might be above us. For
example, just because it took humans 14 billion years - who is to say that it didn't take only 10 billion years for a specific ET race? I mean .. that
is 4 BILLION YEARS apart. Think about it .. just as a possibility .. that ONE ET race is 4 BILLION YEARS more advanced than us. Is it NOT a
possibility? Is there hard proof to say that is not possible? In science, don't some organisms begin earlier than others?
I am just saying .. we really don't know much about the possibilities of ETs.
And I want to add - my personal opinion - that we should not only believe in hard proofs. Thousands of "possible" evidences MEAN something. Hundreds
of ex-government officials making statements + documents as proofs, FBI official documents stating UFO existence, thousands of videos captured (do u
really think it's possible that thousands of regular families with no video editing background just suddenly start to make these UFO videos with video
editing that actually requires YEARS of skill?! I know it takes at least months to years of skill because I have learned them in school ...),
thousands of ET abductees with physical proofs, ancient civilization cities with architectures that CANNOT be created unless with MODERN TECHNOLOGY,
evidence of nuclear attacks on ancient (thousands of years old) cities ... I mean come on, you are really going to deny all of those "possible"
evidences just because there is no hard proof (yet)?
It's like ... 1 million people ate this fruit and got sick ... they claimed that there's something wrong with this fruit. Now, while scientists cannot
find anything wrong with this fruit (yet) ... can you really just say "nope, nothing wrong with this fruit. move on." I mean come on ... even without
hard proofs - 1 million people getting sick deserves some looking into. That's all I'm saying ... that "something" is wrong. ETs from outer space or
not - I don't believe millions of people are just crazy making all these up - once again, hundreds of ex-government officials (heck, even current
government officials), official documents from FBI & military, ancient civilization cities of THOUSANDS years old with NUCLEAR BOMB evidence (every
time I say this, people just ignore it like they didn't read or hear it. I mean scientists have already proved that these cities show evidence of
nuclear bombing just like any place that have been nuked in modern day) ...
Just give it a chance. That's all I'm saying.
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