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Game over! FBI shut down three of largest poker sites in probe that could end online gambling

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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 04:44 AM
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Game over! FBI shut down three of largest poker sites in probe that could end online gambling


www.dailymail.co.uk

Three of the largest online poker sites have been shut down by the FBI in a probe that could bring about the death of the internet gambling industry.
Eleven people, including the owners of Full Tilt Poker, Absolute Poker and PokerStars, were charged with bank fraud and money laundering.
In 2006, Congress passed a law prohibiting online gambling, but most of the leading sites found ways to work around the law using foreign banks. Prosecutors allege that in doing so they broke the law.
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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 04:45 AM
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I dont see any problem with playing online poker .Goverment again prohibits some of the human basic rights --to do what you want with your money.This is a big hit against online poker industry and also big hit against most oldest game in American history--> poker .While Olympics officials considering to bring poker officially in Olympic games the US goverment is tearing apart this game .

www.dailymail.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 04:51 AM
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Good job too.

Too much temptation for financially struggling people to see gambling as a means to get them out of trouble, the reverse of course is normally the case.

The gambling industry has always been run by criminal slugs leeching from the idiotic and weak.

Hope they all go the way of the Dodo.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 04:54 AM
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Whilst I don't gamble and do think it robs naive people of their hard earned money, I can't see why it can be perfectly legal in casinos but not online. Makes no sense to me.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 04:57 AM
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True but that's not why the Government is doing this..
Gambling is fine as long as the Government is getting their cut..
Obviously they are not so it's shut down time..

The public are the losers...
Paying taxes on gambling just takes from the winners cut..
Gamblers will always gamble..
At least give them fair odds..
The Government should not be "banker" for gambling..



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:02 AM
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I think it is good these poker sites got shut down. Problem Gambling is a serious issue and although "casual gamblers" will lose out on some fun, the number of positives will outweigh the negatives for most people around the world. Winning when gambling can be great, but you tend to lose a lot more than you win.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:07 AM
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Uh oh looks like it's back to zynga poker on facebook for me!



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:08 AM
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Change the sites to something other than the US. Problem solved?



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by PsykoOps
Change the sites to something other than the US. Problem solved?


Not for american citizens...



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:15 AM
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Shut down online poker (used by the masses) but leave Wall St (run by the elite) alone......


What's the difference between online poker and "investment banking".....?

Absolutely nothing....!

Oh sorry there is a difference; if you gamble online in poker and loose, you loose your money, period. If you gamble on Wall St and loose you get bailed out by the tax payer......

This world really is F*****d up.....




MR



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:21 AM
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There is already a thread on this:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

It is wrong on many levels that the US government has done this. I am moving out of the US as soon as I am done with probation. The Land of the Free and Home of the Brave no longer exists.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:28 AM
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This is really way too much control over people's habits, (similar to smoke ban). Who cares if one smokes or plays poker?? I just don't understand.
I am not a gambler, but I love to play online poker from time to time, rarely though, but nevertheless it's fun.
The truth is that anything can potentially become dangerous habit - overeating, drug abuse, alchohol, tobaco. The list of habits that people can get dangerously addicted to is much longer, almost anything is potentially unhealthy - facebook, solariums, working too much, bodybuilding, shopping...whatever.
At the same time our air, water and soil are becoming more and more poluted, our wepons are becoming more and more thretening, so many people dying, killed in accidents, wars...
So, why then is poker so important to the FBI???



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:36 AM
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I posted this in the other thread, but I'm kinda glad you started this one, because as far as I can tell, this seems legit, but I don't know if anyone else has seen it yet.
 


Washington Examiner 4/12/2011

A District law to establish Internet gambling through the D.C. Lottery has cleared the congressional approval process, making the city the first U.S. jurisdiction authorized to allow online poker and betting on fantasy sports. At-large D.C. Councilman Michael Brown introduced the idea as an amendment to a December spending bill needed to close a $175 million budget gap in the current fiscal year. The council gave its approval and the 30-day waiting period for Congress to act on it ended last week.
What the..
...?????

The law allows the D.C. Lottery to create online poker and other "games of chance" and betting on fantasy sports leagues similar to those already established on the web, officials said. The city's chief financial officer estimates the city could raise $13 million in additional revenue from the gambling in fiscal 2014.

A D.C. Lottery spokeswoman said they're in the early stages of planning and could not immediately comment on specifics.
I am not surprised by this at all, but.... that blatant about it?? I don't know, but it sure looks like a legit site to me.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:37 AM
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To Note:

It is just US based players who are affected, I can still log in & play being from the UK.

An alert popped up telling me I was ok to play but I would'nt be joined in any cash games or tournaments by US players. Im afraid your government is once again taking away another important freedom. I remember when this all started a few years ago when they banned US banks from transfering funds between gambling sites & accounts, but players got around it by using third party companies, now it seems they are going after the heads of those who run the sites, personnaly I cant see how they have a leg to stand on, but as we all know, laws can & will change to suit those who smell blood and the chance of futhering their own income. Just another case of your government wanting total control of what you can & cannot do. I would'nt be suprised to see my own government make a similar move in the near future
edit on 16-4-2011 by DarthPhobos because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:44 AM
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Originally posted by Douriff
This is really way too much control over people's habits, (similar to smoke ban). Who cares if one smokes or plays poker?? I just don't understand.
I am not a gambler, but I love to play online poker from time to time, rarely though, but nevertheless it's fun.
The truth is that anything can potentially become dangerous habit - overeating, drug abuse, alchohol, tobaco. The list of habits that people can get dangerously addicted to is much longer, almost anything is potentially unhealthy - facebook, solariums, working too much, bodybuilding, shopping...whatever.
At the same time our air, water and soil are becoming more and more poluted, our wepons are becoming more and more thretening, so many people dying, killed in accidents, wars...
So, why then is poker so important to the FBI???


You're not going to lose your home or business by smoking a ciggy or the occasional spliff or glass of wine are you.

Gambling, especially online gambling, where you are in comfortable and familiar surroundings at home, can lead to a false sense of security and cause you to gamble more than you might ordinarily do, leading in *many* cases to people losing bigger or even losing everything.

Accidents etc will always happen and it's sad for the individuals, but that's not the same thing as people going down the financial pan due to handing their families money over to these organised leeches and vultures.

Shut the lot down.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:55 AM
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Either you are an idiot or a government disinfo agent.

Someone can spend all their income on lottery tickets too. You obviously know nothing about poker which is a game a skill with a luck factor than can let a poor player win in the short term. The real issue here is we live in a so called 'free country' but we are not free to do as we please with our own money among other things.

There will be protests over this oppressive action that the US government has taken.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:03 AM
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Originally posted by spikey

Gambling, especially online gambling, where you are in comfortable and familiar surroundings at home, can lead to a false sense of security and cause you to gamble more than you might ordinarily do, leading in *many* cases to people losing bigger or even losing everything.


I play freerolls from time to time, and I've never get tempted to play for real money. But this is me.
There are indeed people who are loosing everything. ( I persnally know a guy who really reached the bottom) But the thing is, that they suffer from impuls control disorder, which is a kind of mental disorder that needs to be treated. Not all the people who play games are patological gamblers.
So I don't agree with you that comfortable enviroment can be tempting as a rule for everyone. If that would be the case, than entire Las Vegas should become a forbidden zone, as a precausion measure to prevent people from getting sick.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:11 AM
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Do you know anyone with a gambling problem?

I understand what you are saying about personal freedoms and such, but the pain this causes for families around the world outweighs (imo) the fun experienced by casual gamers who don't have an addiction.

The problem is not Poker - it's the accessibility to gamble and lose money at the drop of a hat, while maintaining a false notion that the odds are in your favour.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:29 AM
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Have you ever heard of survival of the fittest? If someone can't control their spending that is not my problem nor the governments. Let them go broke so they can learn a lesson or get help if needed. All the poker sites I've been to have links for responsible gambling advice.

People, especially Americans spend too much money on all sorts of things just look at all the credit card debt. Do you think credit cards should be outlawed too because of the harm it has caused people who are not fiscally responsible?

I've been playing online poker for years and live games for even longer, I am a winning player so this news hits me hard and I am furious. I've been reading up on this and very few support the US government's move. I don't think TPTB realized the consequences of their actions on this one, the illusion of freedom in the US is quickly vanishing.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:32 AM
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Why are you guys arguing about addiction??

Addiction has absolutely nothing to do with the U.S. governments agenda to stop Americans from playing online poker.

You think the government gives a $H!# about individuals?? They don't.

Their concern is that they are not currently making money off of it. They could care less if you lose your house. They just want to be the ones that get it when you do. This addiction argument is pointless for this particular topic.




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