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Has Radiation Made it to Hawaii?

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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:14 AM
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Solar, can you take some pictures and upload them ?
Would be interesting to see. As well with all the specialists/freaks with different backgrounds here
on ATS we'll probably find out what it is and what not.

Stay safe.




posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:21 AM
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I second taking pics/video. That would be good.

Safely, of course.
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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by notsofunnyguy
reply to post by VariableConstant
 


Wow. If you could get that on record (written or audio), that would be good.

I did check this site: www.radiationnetwork.com...

for radiation levels in Japan, but they only have one monitoring station, and it's showing very low (no cause for concern below about 100 CPM is what they say). I've noticed 60 or so is the norm in Denver, and mid-40's in L.A. (and no yellow rain here so far).

Someone just starred my post on the other thread, so maybe we'll get some info here shortly.



Here you go, notsofunny:

www.hawaiinewsnow.com...

Looks like the official line is no worries, keep drinking milk. Appears to be a plug for the dairy farmers, and not to knock them, I know they work hard to make a living, but I'd like more good information. Could be nothing, but I don't think many could blame us for being skeptical.
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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:32 AM
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Okay, and that's only from the last day or so.

When did the yellow residue show up? Today?

From what I've been reading on ATS (trying to stay current) it's usually a few days from sample collection to testing to printing results. And in the article it says most of your milk comes from California. I haven't heard/read of any problems here so far.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by notsofunnyguy
reply to post by VariableConstant
 


Okay, and that's only from the last day or so.

When did the yellow residue show up? Today?

From what I've been reading on ATS (trying to stay current) it's usually a few days from sample collection to testing to printing results. And in the article it says most of your milk comes from California. I haven't heard/read of any problems here so far.


No, I noticed it at least a couple of weeks ago. To verify, here is a post I made at the end of March:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Again, maybe it's nothing, but the lack of information and business as usual attitude is not very comforting.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:58 AM
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Have you seen it any more since then? And does anyone still feel how they did on the 29th?



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 02:00 AM
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You live on the big island too??? awesome...

I plan on moving to Puna in a few years!


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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 02:05 AM
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The answer to the OP is YES.
www.idealist.ws...



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 02:11 AM
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I live on Maui and havnt noticed any deposits of a yellowish nature, or strange rain. My windshield was dirty but it was red dirt



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by notsofunnyguy
reply to post by VariableConstant
 


Have you seen it any more since then? And does anyone still feel how they did on the 29th?





Yes, on both counts. Hence my willingness to jump on this thread in the hopes of gaining more concrete information.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 02:28 AM
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-Put on my tin-foil hat-
I doubt that TPTB release this kind of info before everybody infected.......what I mean is that when you see people start dropping dead....you'll know it reached Hawaii.
This is why the New Age, 2012 doom and gloomer, etc.....always say something along the line "prepare physically and mentally" meaning if you can run, RUN, if you cannot , JUST ACCEPT THE INEVITABLE.

-Take off my tin-foil hat-
I don't think it will ever reach Hawaii with lethal dose.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 02:32 AM
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Okay.

Here's a link to a site from the other post that has a short video showing the "pollen" that fell in Japan.

www.globalresearch.ca...

Might be worth a look to see if what you have there is similar.

I also forwarded a U2U respone I got back from one of the more knowledgeable guys on Japan thread.

It would probably be good to get some pics/video if you have more yellow residue show up (I hesitate to say get a sample because I have no idea where you might be able to get it independently tested, nor would I want you to do something that might prove unsafe).

If you can get access to a geiger counter and start taking readings, that would be good as well. There may be a few places streaming the info (I think some people have put livestream feeds up of their geiger counters in various places in the US, not sure about Hawaii).

And it might not be a bad idea to keep a hard copy of any documents/articles you come across where a state agency says the radiation levels are safe. That way if they flip-flop at all later (like has happened in Japan) you'll have some evidence. I know that sounds crappy to say, but I know that's one of the things I would be doing if I were in Hawaii.

I can't think of anything more to tell you at this point (like I said, I'm not an expert on this at all). Probably just to educate yourself about as much as you can, get checked out if you seem to have any kind of symptoms, and stay away from the yellow stuff. If you're really concerned, relocation might be something to look into as well (not trying to scare you, but that would be another thing I would be looking into if I were in Hawaii).

ETA: You might also check out this site: www.fairewinds.com...

Arnie Gundersen's been giving solid data by all accounts, and without being sensationalist or fear-mongering.
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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by SolarE-Souljah
It is a yellowish brown residue.
Doesn't look good in any way. Very strange.
Just feel kinda weird that there isn't more info on this.


There is lots of info on the web and even older threads at ATS about yellow rain incidents that were not related to any nuclear plant.

here are a few...


Jan 21, 2011
Green/Yellow Goo Falls from skies
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Jun 18, 2004
Yellow rain phenomenon



On the 4th of June 2004, a strange occurrence has unfolded at a housing estate in Tanjung Bungah where rain would leave yellow residue on vehicles parked in the open.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Karkala: Yellow Rain in Hebri Causes Curiosity and Concern


Yellow rain falls often in southeast Asia and and is believed to be caused by the excrement of wild honeybees contaminated by a fungal toxin.

mangalorean.com...

I would suggest taking a sample of the rain if you see it again and take it for testing. Should be able to find someone on the Island that has a Geiger counter they can check it with.

Radiation is energy and invisible... not going to color anything. That does not rule out particles of dust or pollen that have been irradiated, but the radiation itself doesn't color water

If it leaves a residue, that means its dust/pollen/particles of some type. Just get a sample and have it tested


As to the milk...

Cesium 137 19 pC/l
Cesium 134 24 pC/l
Iodine 131 19 pC/l
pC/l =picoCuries per liter

Tested at Hilo on 04/10/2011

opendata.socrata.com...

Its one of the highest on the list
opendata.socrata.com...

I would cut back on milk just to be safe



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 02:55 AM
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Has anyone in Tokyo taken a Geiger counter to the rain? There are many people that have them, including groups like Greenpeace, etc... Any one of them did any tests on it? They would be independent sources



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 04:42 AM
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Thank you for your knowledgeable post.

We shall see what happens.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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Here is a link to Pachube community that have been taking real time gieger readings
in Japan

japan.failedrobot.com...

With lots of other info.
I'm trying now to see if the have links to Hawaii.

community.pachube.com...



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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Seriously! I truly don't want to be alarmist but the fact remains - this is the worst nuclear accident to have been recorded! and Hawaii is right in the path of the fallout.
Yellow rain = Pollen!!!????? Seriously!?? What a funny ha. ha. coincidence...
Chernobyl had yellow rain after their accident and it was highly radioactive.

www.weatheronline.co.uk... is but one of many sources to get an idea of the path of the fallout.

If you have children, please keep them out of the yellow rain - whilst many (not actually in the firing line) will tell you it's nothing to worry about, right after an unprecidented massive nuclear accident would anyone in their right mind want to take the chance it's not radioactive!? Better safe than sorry - does that saying not count anymore?



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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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There is heightened radiation in the contiguous USA so I would assume Hawaii has it too.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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After reading this line in the article, it's obvious that the main concern is NOT to keep people safe from radiation...


"That's the biggest concern, if it starts affecting our farmers in the pocket book"
So, they are clearly thinking about how it will affect their pocket books if people stop drinking the milk due to the fact that it's contaminated.
Also, the EPA's acceptable levels are much lower than the FDA's.
blogs.forbes.com...

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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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Hawaii milk samples showed radiation 800% above normal for Cesium-134, 633% for Cesium-137, and 600% for Iodine-131. Water contamination measured over 20 times acceptable levels.

This is the latest I've heard on Hawaii from EPA.

But yeah stay out of the rain.



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