Ok, you dont think aliens built pyramids? Explain this., page 1
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Topic started on 26-7-2004 @ 11:33 PM by Scolecite
This is a website I found with some good shots of Sacsayhuaman.

www.downtheroad.org...

From what I understand the Conquestedors took most of the smaller rocks on top of the walls to build their houses away from this site, so the tops of the walls may seem extraordinarily uneven.

But if you will, just.....look.....at......this......stonework!!!

I stared at it for 15 min, and my brain hurt from it. It will happen to you too , just look at it for any length of time. Not all the pics are of the wall, and not all are good, but the ones that are will have you hypnotized. I like the 5th pic from the bottom

I want to say more about how I think they did this, but my brain hurts from trying just to conceptualize this structure. My personal beliefs are that it was not necessarliy E.T.'s that built it, but certianly spiritualy based, intelligent humans, their knowledge of course being long forgotton, if only by the ones that control us.

Two MAJOR problems exist for meno make it 3)
1.How did they cut those patterns in the rock that apparntly not even a blade of grass will fit through?
2.How did they move those rocks into position, into the patterns?(If thats even faintly how they did it, Im trying to remember that may not be how it was done at all, and that in fact Im destroying my whole process by insisting that the stones were first cut, then moved into place.)
3.And perhaps the most important question is WHY??????
Basically they had to defend against arrows, and slings at that time, not to mention the apparently ENORMUS ammount of work that went into carving all the angles. There really is no need for this, I mean C'mon!

Anyways I hope you read what I just typed, and that it made sense and that its not just a stupid repost.

later


reply posted on 26-7-2004 @ 11:48 PM by Quest
Originally posted by Scolecite
Two MAJOR problems exist for meno make it 3)
1.How did they cut those patterns in the rock that apparntly not even a blade of grass will fit through?
2.How did they move those rocks into position, into the patterns?(If thats even faintly how they did it, Im trying to remember that may not be how it was done at all, and that in fact Im destroying my whole process by insisting that the stones were first cut, then moved into place.)
3.And perhaps the most important question is WHY??????
Basically they had to defend against arrows, and slings at that time, not to mention the apparently ENORMUS ammount of work that went into carving all the angles. There really is no need for this, I mean C'mon!

Anyways I hope you read what I just typed, and that it made sense and that its not just a stupid repost.

later


1) A hammer and chisel? Ever seen polished marble or granit? Artist still do it frequently.
2) Rope and manpower?
3) For the same reason many temple had the best crafmanship possible. Mosolus had a tomb covered in not only perfectly fit marble stones, but also polished marble statues and reliefs. And that was just one man's tomb.

You think thats cool, look what the romans did with carved stones. They didn't even slack off and just cut puzzle pieces, they cut all the stones the same size. And on top of that they had arches. And these are still standing 2000 years later. What the heck do aliens have to do with good craftmanship?




reply posted on 27-7-2004 @ 08:05 AM by Scolecite
Originally posted by Quest
Originally posted by Scolecite
1. Ive seen marble statues, and Ive never gotten a headache when I tried to think of how they did it. Using a hammer and chisel makes sense for carving, but not for Sacsayhuaman.
2. The big stones weigh 150-300 tons! Ok?
3. That Mosolus tomb looks like childs play compared to Sacsayhuaman. You can at least SEE how Mosolus done. Ok one stone on top of the other, and then the other and so on. THe stones can be picked up off the ground with a small group of people. Totally different scale. All the shapes are simple square or rectangle shapes in the Mosolus tomb..


1) How does using a hammer and chisel "not make sense"...its carved stone.
2) 150-300 tons? Where did you get those figures? The bigest ones in those pictures look 2 tons tops.
3) Direct Quote from your link "The indents in the rock were used to move the rock into place." Not only were they moved by people, but the markings from it are still there.

Oh, and you can't see anything on mosolus' tomb...its gone. That is a picture of Roman Aqueducts...as I said.

[edit on 27-7-2004 by Quest]



1. Where are the hammers and chisels that they used. You would think that if they were harder than the stone you would find some relics? No?
2. According to many sites, the big stones are 150 TONS. Dont take my word for it, do some research.
3. I thouht your picture was of Mosolus tomb, my bad. There was some confusion because of that. And the indents on the rock COULD have been used(its just a theory, the site I gave you was a tourists pics not information), but notice NOT every rock has them. If every rock had them then it would be different.

DID ANYONE EVEN READ MY POST, I SAID ALIENS OR INTELLIGENT HUMANS WITH KNOWLEDGE LOST TO US Sorry didnt think it would be that big

I never said it HAD to be aliens.

[edit on 27-7-2004 by Scolecite]


reply posted on 27-7-2004 @ 11:28 AM by dusran
I remember reading an article once about a group of monks in Tibet, whom through music could levitate and manuever very heavy blocks into place.

paranormal.about.com...

EXCERPT:
"In the middle of the meadow. about 250 metres from the cliff, was a polished slab of rock with a bowl like cavity in the center. The bowl had a diameter of one metre and a depth of 15 centimeters. A block of stone was maneuvered into this cavity by Yak oxen. The block was one metre wide and one and one-half metres long. Then 19 musical instruments were set in an arc of 90 degrees at a distance of 63 metres from the stone slab. The radius of 63 metres was measured out accurately. The musical instruments consisted of 13 drums and six trumpets. (Ragdons).

Behind each instrument was a row of monks. When the stone was in position the monk behind the small drum gave a signal to start the concert. The small drum had a very sharp sound, and could be heard even with the other instruments making a terrible din. All the monks were singing and chanting a prayer, slowly increasing the tempo of this unbelievable noise. During the first four minutes nothing happened, then as the speed of the drumming, and the noise increased, the big stone block started to rock and sway, and suddenly it took off into the air with an increasing speed in the direction of the platform in front of the cave hole 250 metres high. After three minutes of ascent it landed on the platform.

Continuously they brought new blocks to the meadow, and the monks using this method, transported 5 to 6 blocks per hour on a parabolic flight track approximately 500 metres long and 250 metres high. From time to time a stone split, and the monks moved the split stones away. Quite an unbelievable task..."

Personally I believe this technique along with a good amount of physical labor was how the ancient structures, such as pyramids and this place were built.


reply posted on 27-7-2004 @ 04:22 PM by HumptyDumpty
Originally posted by ScoleciteHow come countless scientists, engineers, and egyptologists would disagree with you? Suddenly your an expert on this? Dude you need to read a book and educate yourself on how precise most of these formations are built.


I have read extensive information on these subjects.

I also think that people underestimate the capabilitys of old contruction methods and understanding of contruction techniques. I also think that people underestimate the pride and hard work put into these structures.

There can be many reason that these contruction methods are not passed on tho ther civilizations. For one why would you reveal how you made walls that were almost indestructable with the wepons they had in the day. Wouldnt you want to be the only civilization in the area that had a barrier that was not only for protection, but also haveing astronomical capabilitys which were also extremely important to these civilizations.

Another thing is the pride/religious belife/astronomical belife of what they were building. This would have been like sending people to the moon, or sending the first camera into space to help identify the heavens.

In conclusion, its my opinion that these walls in question where not built with extraterestrial help, or some kind of lost/divine knowledge. I think that these walls were built with and extreme amount of pride and forsight as to what the finished product would be. What ever the main purpose for these walls and structures would be for. These would have had to be built with the instruction from a very skilled, knowlegable, maybe genious person/persons. These structures would, in my opinion, not be passed along contruction methods, just as our militarys of the days do not reveal defence information.
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