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Originally posted by wildtimes
What an extraordinary experience!
First of all, at the risk of being further dissed than I already have been on numerous forums on this site, I will say that I am APPALLED at the bad manners and disrespectful posts by people like "audio asassin" and the like-minded.
WHY CAN'T YOU PEOPLE JUST LEAVE SINCERE POSTERS ALONE???!!!
Not everything can be explained by photos and recordings, nor can things you have never experienced simply be "impossible" or "hoaxes", for crying out loud!
MODS: PLEASE, can you do a bit more to sanction/remove the one-line posters, the haters, the naysayers, the members who are obviously here ONLY to mock and disrespect? I'm a new member, yes, but I was very hopeful that in this site I would find acceptance of my thoughts and experiences as just as VALID as anyone else's.
Discussion is one thing, but blatant rudeness is just RUDE!! If you aren't interested or don't believe in whatever the thread concerns, then just Shut the H Up!
back to gdaub:
I have read the replies suggesting Wiccan arts, Christian methods, taunting and challenging...and in only one did I see someone mention that maybe -- whatever this entity is -- it's trying to get your attention, and possibly needs help, or HAS HELP TO OFFER YOU.
You mentioned Dana was sometimes unpleasant - how long have you been with her? Is she right for you? Maybe, as you are in your childhood home again, this entity -- or energy -- is trying to communicate something to you that it is very concerned about regarding your future or your safety. If Dana is not receptive to what you are experiencing - or tells you it's stupid or whatever - that seems perhaps to indicate the entity is only interested in dealng with you, for whatever reason.
I agree that possibly you could look a little deeper into your own situation as well, re the fact that you had to move back home, and that Dana is there as well. Clearly you are under stress, and the naysayers notwithstanding, I myself have years of experience as a psychotherapist, AND a person familiar with many different paranormal theories, and have myself had more than one experience that I would call paranormal.
Getting a history of the house might also reveal information about events or circumstances that might have disrupted a previous or extra-dimensional resident's equilibrium. If there is no history of violent or tragic or sinister activity recorded, then I would certainly consider the Native American idea -- years ago I was riding my mare down by the river and suddenly felt a Native American's spirit - a wise woman - was speaking to me and directing me to investigate the place's pre-modern culture and history (which I did, and found as I was tilling a garden an eons old flint scraper verified as prehistoric at the local natural history museum).
Lastly, I might suggest that you acknowledge the entity gently - like a little kid poking your shoulder, it's irritating, but once you give the kid some attention and hear what it has to say, the poking stops. Disembodied entities - or those in a parallel and (to our brains) "invisible" dimension - or those with whom we shared previous lifetimes - DO exist, I am certain of it. (AND NO, I DON'T HAVE PROOF, AUDIO ASASSIN, SO BACK OFF).
gdaub, Perhaps you could try being friendly? Asking it to tell you what it needs? Ask how to share the space? Offer it something (heck, i don't know, milk and cookies? cigs and a beer?).
In any case, as I understand it, this thing is touching and poking you, pulling on the covers, but so far only getting your attention in a pretty alarming way. Where did that bed come from? Was it previously owned?
I will follow this thread, I find it fascinating, and again --
I find it APPALLING that the mods allow so many slams and flames to go on here - on what is purported as an intellectual, open-minded place to discuss things that are NOT "proven".
Considering just not coming here anymore, there are just SOoo many haters.
Originally posted by nithaiah
reply to post by audio assasin
IMHO it's this kind of nonsensical, blatant, baseless "pics or it didn't happen" trolling that's the problem. Not the threads ATS members post to share an experience they had. If you don't like the thread, you don't have to post in it. It isn't like anyone's bending your arm to make you harass the OP.
Hauntings are notoriously difficult to prove one way or another, because there is no way to quantify them to the satisfaction of the scientific community; and so-called "skeptics", who aren't so much skeptical as they are deeply entrenched in a particular belief to the point of dogmatism. (For those, even if there was scientifically acceptable proof, they would still deny it.) It is also incredibly unlikely that there ever will be technology and methodology that will satisfy the scientific community... quite simply, there isn't a government around who could be arsed to care about ghosts, and that means there ain't gonna be funding. No money=no proper research=no proof.
"Why are ghosts/spirits (the type that one connects with a haunted house such as a poltergeist) stuck here on earth, and physically interact with the living?"
When a soul becomes 'earthbound' they will continue to hang around places that were familiar to them. If they are very connected to a person, instead of a place, the soul will move around with the person. In such a case, the physical person may experience unusual phenomena in any place they live or work. This activity, usually credited to Poltergeist, is their way of getting the attention of the person in physical. Sometimes the activity is less than friendly and creates problems, and fear, for that person.
A soul may become 'earthbound' when they do not make a full transition. What would cause a soul not to fully transition when they die? Rapid, dramatic death processes will sometimes leave a soul in disbelief of their own death. An extremely close connection to a person or place may keep them holding on. When a loved one is dying and we keep crying and telling them we can't live without them - that may keep a soul close by. In such a case, they are literally torn between the two worlds and the crying and lamenting of their loved one will have the stronger pull.
What we believe happens during a poltergeist haunting is that there is an agent, a person in which the activity centers around. In many cases this agent is a child or young adult. Even more interesting is that in almost all documented cases the agent was going through a particuliarly stressful time in their life or may have gone through a recent tragic event. The agent may be tryng to eleviate the stress or the stress can simply be unresolved or repressed, but ineffictively dealing with or ignoring the emotional issues causes poltergeist activity through a form of psychokinesis called Recurrent Spontaneous Psychokinesis, or RSPK. The agent isn't aware that they are causing the poltergeist phenomena and has no idea when or how it will occur. Many times they themselves can actually be the victim, especially when their stress is coupled with self-targeted anger. Other cases have determined that more than one person can be involved, thus pooling RSPK energy and increasing the intensity and frequency of the activity. Research has also show that people with Epilepsy or people with a history of seizures are sometimes associated with Poltergeist activity.