Birther threads!

reply to post by hawaii50th


Dems vs Reps keep argueing! Most closet liberals who play to the tune of the interest groups. Many fickle and certainly 2 or 3 faced!!!
Doesnt look like thats going to change anytime soon!
Surely its time that the US folks who listen to the usual candidate BS wake up and appreciate that the only way to improve things, at least to some degree, is to elect candidates who say it like it really is! Thats not liberalism! Its lets forget the labels and cut the crap and focus on resolving the issues head on!
If the US electorate dontn start to change the way they think and step outside the box then things will never change.

Until people learn to think in the 3rd density and 4th dimensional form their eyes will never be truly opened. If the people are not really observing properly and therefore not seeing things for what they really are then the norm waves will remain and politicians behaviour will not change. Just as with "elect"rons. If you observe electrons it removes the wave function!

Wacko maybe?

Democrats and Republicans play a game of if you vote for me I'll do this and I'll do that. I promise you this and I'll promise you that. It is the fault of them, that's why we need to do this, x number of years by them caused us to have these problems. And on and on. It's an act, it's a roll to play like volley ball back and forth giving a false sense of hope that never materialize.
The two party system was put into place for exactly that reason, to make arguments back and forth, and to eventually erode away the system that was originally started. Liberalism is so far to one side or another, and now it's gone to the extreme socialist side, but the conservatives helped it along the way.
If you look up of what a republican suppose to stand for, you will see that they've broken all of their own party rules, ideology, philosophy, etc. With liberalism they start off with real freedom for the people ideology, but then start to go off in the socialist direction and end up contradicting what they originally stood for.
So, unless the republicans go back to their grassroot beginnings, and democrats fade away into oblivion then go back to federalist and independents, and also set limits on campaign spending maybe then there would be some hope. Another change would be, to kick out corporate financial support to candidates so candidates don't owe favors.
But it's not ever going to be a perfect world and besides, it's too late. We are where we are and there are higher powers that pull the strings, and have been pulling them for much to long a time.
Protectionism could be the only way to reset the whole country, but that would carry a heavy price for the whole population, it would set everything back years and no body would be willing to do that, especially the money changers.

reply to post by Sinnthia


This should wind you and a few others up. It may be nonsense but.............

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reply to post by RoguePhilosopher


So you birthers have finally decided to admit to yourselves what a joke this all is and see how far you can really take it? Sorry but a thread proclaiming Obama may not even exist is really not helping the birther movement look like concerned citizens with genuine questions. It just looks like hatefilled nutjobs who refuse to learn, read, acknowledge anything real, or join us in the real world where we have real problems.

reply to post by Sinnthia

No one admitted anything! Only outlined the fact that there are anomolies and some unanswered questions. That to me is merely trying to confirm reality is it not. Ambiguity and secrecy/protectionism only fosters doubt. Isnt that what ATS is about.

Good look to Obama he will need it.

reply to post by RoguePhilosopher


The only questions that are unanswered are the ones that are being given to you all while you are running off to start yet another birther thread full of the same lies repeated ad nauseum. Birthers ask questions and ignore answers. That is their standard MO. So yes, you have admitted that you choose to remain ignorant rather than learn a truth you may not like. It is ok. I always suspected as much. Otherwise, you would actually acknowledge the answers given to you because they are all over ATS on the tons of birther threads.

reply to post by Sinnthia


Excuse me!! But I have not been running off anywhere to start any birther threads so I dont know where you got that info from.
Next question
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Jesse Ventura, giving a speech in Philadelphia April 9th 2011



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