Birther threads!

reply to post by JohhnyBGood


Don't try to tell a birther that the truth is already out there because they don't have enough remaining brain cells to realize it.

Americans are so superficial in times of war and world suffering. While someone's worrying about shelter, we're worrying about a goddamn birth certificate. Lame.

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


It certainly is true.

Birthers so blind that they can't see just how full of # they are.

Originally posted by TriForce
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

 

Right!!! Because everytime someone criticizes obama, hes a racist, everytime someone says he is the worst president since Carter he is a racist and everytime people want to verify that he is a US citizen, theyre a racist.
If theres nothing to it, then why does he dodge the subject?
And btw, the same issue arose about McCain during the election, because he was born on a Military Base in Panama.

This proves that this group is nothing but the modern KKK and Aryan Brotherhood reincarnated. Nothing more nothing less.

I actually am on record in defending McCain's eligibility for POTUS as early as Mid 2007 and the determination that was made was McCain is legally a Natural Born Citizen as his father was a career Navy Admiral and his mother was a US citizen through her death and neither relinquished thier citizenship while Obama is a Native Born Citizen.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1

Originally posted by TriForce
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

 

Right!!! Because everytime someone criticizes obama, hes a racist, everytime someone says he is the worst president since Carter he is a racist and everytime people want to verify that he is a US citizen, theyre a racist.
If theres nothing to it, then why does he dodge the subject?
And btw, the same issue arose about McCain during the election, because he was born on a Military Base in Panama.

I actually am on record in defending McCain's eligibility for POTUS as early as Mid 2007 and the determination that was made was McCain is legally a Natural Born Citizen as his father was a career Navy Admiral and his mother was a US citizen through her death and neither relinquished thier citizenship while Obama is a Native Born Citizen. This proves that this group is nothing but the modern KKK and Aryan Brotherhood reincarnated. Nothing more nothing less.

Youre saying that MY post proves that people wanting to see his birth cert are KKK or aryan brotherhood? lmao, you really are delusional and I am done with you.
Have fun stewing in your hate and self-victimization.

Originally posted by TriForce

Youre saying that MY post proves that people wanting to see his birth cert are KKK or aryan brotherhood? lmao, you really are delusional and I am done with you.
Have fun stewing in your hate and self-victimization.

edit on 16-4-2011 by TriForce because: (no reason given)

It's already been issued. This is what everyone of y'all is refusing to understand. All because he is a BLACK MAN!

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
So, a thread complaining about birther threads turned into a birther thread??? Come on, guys! This is in BQ&B. Not the place to be discussing Obama and his birth. Take it outside.

Agreed.

i thought this was a thread meant to discuss birther threads, not another thread re-hashing the birther issue.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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LOL. You DO realize the picture above is of Obama supporters, right?

Are they racists too?

The ones that are trying to shut down freedom of speech and the discussion of Obama being a natural born citizen or not is in fear of something coming out. These are the kinds that are trying to destroy freedom and the Republic, if it were not so then they would not be so vehemently trying to squash the thread that was started on the subject. These are the ones that are part of the problem, they are definitely not ones with good intentions, and they are a danger to the free.
They are also here to cause arguments and confusion, so let us not be swayed by their lunacy, and their evil intentions.

The thought police won. There it was came and went.

reply to post by hawaii50th

Has it occurred to you that your very abusive posts are in great part to blame for your own threads shut down? I'm surprise you haven't been banned with the sheer number assaultive and highly personal posts you've made. To my knowledge this site is privately owned so free speech here is the owners' call.

Before I answer this quote...

I want to say that I am thoroughly disgusted at the race card being played by the Obama supporters here. It is gross and disgusting and the lowest form of inflammatory trolling that I have seen in Quite some time. Birthers are NOT racists, and I resent being called one. I say this as a birther, and as a BLACK MAN.

Shame on you people!

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by woghd
It is not a hoax that Barack Obama has failed to produce the vault copy of his birth certificate.

Nor have any of the previous POTUS's, but birthers ignore that

Who says he has to show a "vault copy" (whatever that actually is) to anyone who demands it?

edit on 16/4/11 by dereks because: (no reason given)

Not true. Jimmy Carter held his birth certificate up for all to see once, showing how tiny his baby feet were. The fact is that Barry is the FIRST not to show his real birth certificate.

Originally posted by woghd
Birthers are NOT racists

A lot of them are actually, which is why they are demanding documentation from the first black President that no previous POTUS had to supply.

Not true. Jimmy Carter held his birth certificate up for all to see once, showing how tiny his baby feet were. The fact is that Barack is the FIRST not to show his real birth certificate.

Obama HAS shown his real birth certificate - why do birthers keep ignoring that fact?

Except of course If that claim is true then show us the long form birth certificates from all previous POTUS's. If you are unable to that just shows yet another birther lie.

My minds still open on this! And I admit its all a bit strange. But it is often the case when childhoods & family histories are more complicated and there are uncertainties thus some mystery there is usually something that the family or family member would prefer not to divulge. Thats because the very nature of complexity creates unusual or more diverse scenarios! This i know from personal experience of my own and others.

We will just have to see if anything else unfolds or whether it dies a death!

birthers are just trying to get people to ignore the real issues which they have no answers for.

Originally posted by woghd

Before I answer this quote...

I want to say that I am thoroughly disgusted at the race card being played by the Obama supporters here. It is gross and disgusting and the lowest form of inflammatory trolling that I have seen in Quite some time. Birthers are NOT racists, and I resent being called one. I say this as a birther, and as a BLACK MAN.

Shame on you people!

edit on 16-4-2011 by woghd because: Disgusted with the race card being played by Obama supporters.

If Obama supporters are using "the race card", perhaps they have a good reason to, now and then.

Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
birthers are just trying to get people to ignore the real issues which they have no answers for.

DINGDINGDINGDING!!!!!

SO glad at least one person in this entire thread sees through the fog.


Is the 'Birther' argument really just a way to discredit reasonable criticism of POTUS?

What if someone hacked her email account? Great way to get the public on your side (again)!

Originally posted by RoguePhilosopher
What if someone hacked her email account? Great way to get the public on your side (again)!

Is this in response to the link in my post? If so, it just can't be that easy, now can it?

reply to post by BiggyMcBigPants


It was until I read further. This sort of thing wont help the republicans or will it I wonder.

Originally posted by ChrisCrikey
reply to post by hawaii50th

 

Has it occurred to you that your very abusive posts are in great part to blame for your own threads shut down? I'm surprise you haven't been banned with the sheer number assaultive and highly personal posts you've made. To my knowledge this site is privately owned so free speech here is the owners' call.

Abusive post? Since I've been here on ATS I've seen many abusive post not only directed at myself but at many others that have very legitimate points of view. And I've noticed that it is pick and choose whose post stays and whose post doesn't. So, what your saying is the same thing I read a few others say, that here on ATS, it is not a forum for the free but for what is politically correct, and not for truth but for propaganda and lies? If that is the case, than it is a place for the hopeless and the bored and nothing more. And if that is so, than I have wasted a lot of precious time on here.
There is an agenda out there, that has ruined the country. That agenda is to cause argument, dissension, censorship, confusion, disunity, spread of propaganda, and to just destroy the very soul of the constitution, the Republic, and freedom.
It is a very serious situation, and every day it gets worse. Here at ATS, it has been severely infiltrated by agents of deception. As soon as you post a thread on what is really going on out there on the political system, financial, military, secret societies, with UFO and alien phenomena, Christianity, etc. you get attacked by what seems to be these troll agents. The only reason they come into the discussion is to start an argument and disrupt it all. Than the mods come in with their brooms to clean house, and the innocents gets cleaned up with the garbage. It's very hard for a lot of folks to not attack back, and yes that is the problem. We all need to be like ducks and let the water just roll off our backs. Don't water the weeds, just let them pop up and starve them from getting any replies, and they will just dry up and go away. Well, easier said than done, in my opinion there are a lot of idiots out there in the world.
If this is the way it's going to be, where the freedom of people is going down the tube, and most are going to insist on being sheep and just wait for the slaughter, than so be it. I'm seeing it more and more every day where it's becoming ever more hopeless.
This whole issue about the birth certificate is more than just that, it's about the constitution. Regardless whether it's republicans or democrats, people are pissed off about the socialist agenda that has crept in to what suppose to be a Republic, with a constitution, and a bill of rights that give people the right and freedoms to a good life.
Both republicans and democrats are responsible and at fault for all the troubles we have today. But at the same time we the people are also at fault for not jumping all over them with the power of the constitution and the laws that suppose to stop the corruption from happening. We allowed ourselves to be put into the big pot of water and allow ourselves to be slowly cooked. And guess what, we're just about done.
Thanks to all sorts of entertainment, technology, pleasures, and the rejection of God, at the end of the day this is what we have, and what we'll get.
We live in a society of self gain, vanity, greed, sexual immorality, destruction of the family, love of money, arrogance, irresponsibility, and just plain take everything for granted life style. It's no wonder we're on a out of control spiral that's heading to crash right into the ground.
I've had it.