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Information On The NovaTech Society.

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posted on Dec, 1 2006 @ 04:41 PM
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As the company name has changed, the addresses vary, it also seems that the messages in the initial "invitation" letter also change. Mine says they only invite new members every "7 years". Wow, lucky me!

These letters are still being sent. It is an embaressment.... a scam.

But thanks ATS for all the fun; this discussion board turned a weird letter into hours of reading entertainment.




posted on Dec, 1 2006 @ 04:47 PM
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That snail mail spam could generate so much Gore-net fun?

I just wish the "Colonel" would return and post one more time... Just once...

Reminiscing Monkeys, not just for "Original" instead of "Extra Crispy" anymore...



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 08:12 PM
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If anybody has this reported 1000 page book, why not share with us here. Apparently, this "secret society" isn't offering any membership besides an oppourtunity to spend more money on their products. I want to read this book but "absolutely free". So if anybody has a link or something, could you share with us?

[edit on 01/31/07 by Booneniceb]



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 09:11 PM
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try www.neo-tech.com/day15.html

be prepared to spend a loooonnnngggg time reading.



posted on Feb, 2 2007 @ 12:42 PM
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There is nothing there. They took the books offline, lol.



posted on Feb, 2 2007 @ 10:09 PM
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They don't have the entire Neo-Tech Discovery there, but there's enough other stuff there to give you an idea of the kind of bogus crackpottery they're selling...

Also, change /day15.html to /sitemap.html and you get a more complete list of stuff.



posted on Feb, 3 2007 @ 10:10 AM
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Book one (556 pages): The Noveau Tech Package of Inside Secrets
Noveau Tech Secret Society
The Noveau Tech Discovery
Limited Heirloom Package # ...........
On the cover it reads: (my name), this is the beginning of the life you were meant to live: your life, your children's lives. This is the beginning of revealing our secrets to you and your children eventually. This is the beginning of your family dynasty. You are now an inside member of the exclusive Nouveau Tech Secret Society. You will now see our inside secrets. In a few days, (name), we will contact you about our closed door meetings where you will meet other members and learn their secrets, too. Keep this package in a safe, dry place, (name), for it will get passed down in your family line for generations to come.

1) apparently the "life I was meant to live" is one of poverty. Still dirt poor a year later.
2) my "family dynasty" is also dirt poor.

3) although I'm now a member of a secret society, I have yet to receive my decoder ring. lol
4) true to their word, they contacted me a few days later to let me know that i can meet with other members, but only after I buy THREE books at $139.00 each.
5) don't think this book will be passed down for "generations to come" as it is a paperback book and isn't sturdy enough to last for even the rest of my generation.

Book two: (851 pages) entitled The Nouveau Tech Package of Inner-Circle Secrets (another limited heirloom paperback package).
The cover reads: Now you will journey deeper into the secret society, leading you toward the life you and your family were meant to live. This is the next level of revealing our secrets to you and to your children eventually, which will lead to a powerful family dynasty. You are now an insider of the exclusive Nouveau Tech Secret Society. You will now see our inner-circle secrets. Remember, you are heading toward our closed-door meetings where you will meet other members and learn their secrets, too. Keep this package in a safe, dry place, for it will get passed down in your family line for generations to come.

Dr. Wallace was a disgruntled employee at DuPont. Mark Hamilton is his son. Dr. Wallace is now deceased. From what I've been able to ascertain, their printing company is based loosely on the W.E. Demmings model which worked so well in this country (America) in the 50's and was implemented with success in Japan 20 years later. No doubt their employees are paid well and enthusiastically loyal.

Concerning the 1400+ pages of "inside secrets", about 1200 of them were repetitious. There are a lot of adjectives like "neo-con", "parasitical", etc. The message very much resembles Ayn Rand's objectivist philosophy with some odd twists that, no doubt, have Rand twirling dervishly in her mausoleum.

Some of the basic advice: "quit smoking, lose weight, quit watching tv, do your job better than the other employees at work, give up your ridiculous belief in a creator or personal savior", and other perspicacious insights that can be had for free on public broadcasting channels or pamphlets from your local health department. Basically, don't be a doormat/victim and people will love and respect you for it rewarding you with positions of authority leading to more money which will cause your significant other to love you. Hence, the "power, riches, love" promised in the pamphlet.

When I got my letter I only had "until Friday" to respond. Didn't check my post office box until Saturday so I wrote them back saying that if I was as psychic as they "KNEW" I was then I would have known to check my box earlier and not miss out on "this exciting opportunity reserved for only a special select few". Since I did write them back, they graciously decided to give me another chance to open my wallet to them and I've noticed a barrage of junk mail coming my way from psychics, overnight millionaire schemes, etc.

I don't deny that they have some good advice (if you're willing to wade through the pseudo-philosophical propaganda to find it) but I adamantly deny that it's worth the cost of the book(s).

There are alot of typographical/spelling/grammatical errors (and endless repetition) that detract from the veracity of their self-proclaimed "value producing" mentality. Surely, their world-wide value producing business includes a spell-check? A proof reader? An editor? They are in the printing business after all. A small point, I agree, but considering the asking price, I would expect quality.

They also introduce the topic of "Zons". My understanding (or lack of understanding) is that Zon is a state of mind, an attitude, a way of life that, once perfected, will turn you into a god-like, ascended master called a "Zon". You have to first free yourself from believing in gods (contradictory) and realize that you are the master of your fate, yadayadaya. There's more but you get the idea.

Bottom line (for me, anyway): save your money.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 08:45 PM
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Recieved a letter from JOHN FINN that my "profile" gives me an invitation to join a secret society. As I read the letter 7 repeating wordy pages, it started to sound somewhat familiar. Kind of like a seduction of compliments.

About 6 years ago I bought what was then called "The Book" from NEO-TECH for $70 with a 30 day guarantee. Well the book was over 1000 pages! I don't read that fast. As a matter of fact the book was almost completely unintelligable. The author claimed he loved to stay up writing all night.

"The Book" was basically a stream of consciousness. Kind of like a book written by someone who stayed up all night writing repetitious delusions. "The Book" seemed to be completely unedited in story or structure. I think it would have cost me $20 to send it back. I saw it as an incredible rip off. Nothing patently illegal, yet still a capture scam enticing a purchase of a book that no one could read, evaluate or return within 30 days.

Wish I had the internet back then. As it is I was about to send in again. This sting has struck me and my father before me. I hope some day this rip off artist JOHN FINN will be visited by Karma and stop stealing from people. He is worse than a televangelist that extorts thousands from old ladies living on 10k a year!!



posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 09:56 AM
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YOU SHALL ALL KNOW THE POWER OF JOLLYMON!!! My new masters told me there would be naysayers in this particular e-region. I shall not succumb to your mystical ways, as I am now above all such petty thoughts.

I will tell you one of the secrets which my omnipotent leader exposed to me. Take from it what you will. Tablet 43, paragraph 4 tells me that when I fart, I am sending good intentions to various micro-fibers found in all forms of currency, including wompom, which then invites said fibers to join me in my unending quest for truth, knowledge, and comfortable shoes.

Okay, okay, I'm at work and I have to hurry up, so I'll think of more stuff to make you guys laugh later. By the way, first time poster, and I received the letter from THE NOUVEAU TECH SOCIETY (which they explained to me meant the NEW TECHNOLOGY SOCIETY, thank goodness for the clarification). Luckily, it lead me to ATS, and I haven't gotten any work done because I'm reading everything I can. Love the posts!!! Holla atcha later (with my clean and freshly enemaed mind, thanks NOUVEAU TECH!!).



posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 08:41 PM
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Opening the letter, I thought it was funny. When it comes to "free" things I always take a outlook that if it's too good to be true then it is. The flattering manner which they use was obviously generalized and anyone with an ego could fit the part. Besides it sounding like a cult (they claim to be able to teach... "to control anyone, man or woman, anywhere, how to make your new powers render all others helpless, learn to be more intelligent, make ppl want to be your friend, AND MY FAVORITE, Learn to make make your every relationship; spouse, lover, children, friends, co-workers ect. become better and more fulfilling") they use ideas that all people hope to have seem within their reach, making it seem so simple.

I'm sure some have wondered as I have, is there is anything I can do to get it stopped? Someone using their manipulative ways to cheat people of their money is horrible. If you have extra money you don't want, sent it to me. I'll send pictures of things I buy, you can feel good that you helped me out. lol.

On another note, I think I know where they got my information.
THE BANKS! I filled out an application for a credit card. This was suspicious for a couple of reasons:

1. They gave a WHOLE free pizza (Medium pepperoni from Domino's) for filling out the application which takes like 10minutes.

2. It was done outside

3. It was explained to me by the gentleman, that there were no strings attached (which i was suspicious of). He said they send you a one time e-mail (which i never received) and leave you be.

4. The guy taking the information was shady. (I'm a student at UC Berkeley, and the guy taking information looked unprofessional. By that, I mean like a bum.)

The moral of this story is, if you fill out an application for something free at Berkeley, give them false contact information.


Even though me and my friends got a kick out of it, it's sucks that people waste their money on things like this and don't give more to me. lol.



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 12:51 PM
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Colonel Lemke may be no more, but the Neo-Tech sock puppets, I mean shills, I mean astroturfs, are still alive and well! Here, look at this, for instance.



posted on Feb, 22 2007 @ 08:42 AM
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This NovaTech Group is at it again! :-p

I am new to this group. Reading the letter, from frst glance, pulling out the pages, I thought, what the HELL is th This?! No header on the letter, pages printed front and back with three pages of information. And all trying to sound so mysterious.

So I decided to read it, just to find out who would send a silly looking letter like this. My first though, after reading the first few paragraphs was a secret society (Masons, Illuminati, etc.).

I found the first part interesting, told my wife abou the letter and I read it to her just for the fun of it. It gave us something to do, something to laugh at. My suspicions were still on a secret society, and I told her what I knew about secret societies (which is very minimal). However, when we got down to unlocking powers and abilities, I joking replied, they know! You are one of those "Heroes" (from the TV Show Heroes) and they want to unlock your "Powers."

So I tried looking up information and couldn't find anything until I looked up Kirsten Hart.

Just so you all know, the letters show another name. Now they are calling themselves:
"The Association"



posted on Mar, 6 2007 @ 08:58 PM
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OK... I received the Nouveau Tech Society letter stating I could be rich beyond my dreams and have so many admirers and control people. Hmmm control people is not in any religion allowed for one.
I could not help but laugh when I sent in the request for the secrets. I'm wondering who are these secret people who know me so well. Why can't they tell me who they are since they know me....ggggrrrrrrrrr....Not fair.
If I send in $139.95 by Friday March 9th. 2007, they will send me a 1000 page book on their secrets. Please people. I am not in debt with anyone or ANY bank for that matter. I do well for myself. I am a divorced mother of 5 sons.I own a 97 cobra mustang,95 Rodeo and a 99 Silverado,2 motorcycles and a brand new quad....Not bragging, but they were payed for with CASH. Only thing I owe on is this house.I am nothing but a normal person and so I do not think these people from NEOTECH are getting our information from creditors but maybe from the phone book or from mail orders who SELL your information. Which they do on a daily basis... Anytime you buy something through the mail or by catalog.

So, in conclusion......

Throw it away, like I did. Or mail it in and write FREE where the money amount is...LOL....Telling them its free on the net....DUH.... And maybe just maybe...You will receive a 10 second miracle.....blah blah blah



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 08:16 PM
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Hello

It appears as though quite a few folks are entering their second cycle of life. Hmmmm, first time in a long time I have been in such a large group.

Yes, I recieved the letter from Nouveau Tech (different spelling, but research so far has indicated it is synonymous with Neo-Tech, Nova Tech, Novo Tech, etc.). To the good Colonal's presumed joy, I did follow the directions to the letter. It stated the info promised was free, and did not ask for a checking account or credit card number, so why not? The only problem was that my deadline was the same day I recieved the invitation. No matter, I faxed it.

About two weeks later I recieved the pamphlet. I was in no immediate rush to read it, so I waited a couple days until I had some free time. By the time I had read the pamphlet and realized this was little more than an invitation to buy another book, my deadline was two days gone. So I simply assumed that it was God (or Providence, Nature, Gaira, Charles Darwin, whatever you personally place your faith in) keeping me out of trouble.

I kept my part of their instructions; I told no one of the invitation or the pamphlet. However, now I will, since I have a few problems with this idea of a special invitation, to-wit:

1) Why me? I tend to hide in the shadows. I am on precious few mailing lists (although obviously at least one), belong to no clubs or organizations, etc. I even live so far away from 'society' that I only recently got Internet access at my home. It would have been nice to get a hint of how they found me.

2) The pamphlet was indeed free, but it contained only 5 stories written by successful members, and each one was focused on literally begging me to buy the 'final installment'... the 1000-page, 2300-year-old translated manuscript that solves all your problems in life. Indeed, one story was a word-for-word copy of part of the invitation. I saw no secrets, only a few hints that I have not personally been able to put together into anything substantial.

3) Apparently, this was a ploy to sell a book. Research has found that Neo Tech Publishing is a small family-owned enterprise that specializes in selling the works of Frank Wallace, aka a half-dozen pseudonyms.

4) Yes, the invitation came First-Class Postage. But it was at a reduced rate, which means this WAS a bulk mailing resulting in a discount rate.

5) Every story mentioned a game of chance in Las Vegas. I have been to Las Vegas... nice place. Expensive place. Great place to lose your shirt. Those casinos have pros managing them. That's way out of my league.

6) Most of the stories mentioned finding the 1000-page miracle book either by accident or as a gift... so why am I supposed to buy it? And why for such a large sum of cash? (about $140)

7) The pamphlet I have been mentioning was referred to as an Orientation Booklet... strangest orientation I ever went through.

All in all, I believe this is a fantastic opportunity for Neo Tech Publishing to sell books. I just wish I had thought of the marketing idea. Somebody is definitely gonna get wealthy here. Guess who?

The Redneck

P.S.: First post, I found this forum looking up Nouveau Tech. But it sounds interesting... just be patient with me, because I am usually a pretty busy old redneck...



posted on Apr, 20 2007 @ 03:53 AM
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Apparently, Neo-Tech/Nouveau-Tech are now calling themselves the Athenian Secret Society. Nice try.



posted on May, 4 2007 @ 03:34 AM
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Okay I am really new to all of this. I was just trying to find out if anyone was still chating on this forum and screwed things all up. Apparently you have to reply and not start a new thread. Anyways, I was just trying to thank everyone, including ATS, before I got myself involved in a scam. Thanks again, if anyone is listening, and GOD BLESS.



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 07:52 PM
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I got the same letter from The Athenian Secret Society. I thought it was too good to be true, but I sent in for the silly little book anyways. And low and behold, an ad for more literature. I read in some of the posts that there is a direct link between purchasing a book from Kevin Trudeau and his weird book of natural cures and receiving a letter. No surprise there. Kevin secretly supports the Scientology agenda and what a surprise, another organization who uses literature to push their agenda. I am wondering if there is a tie between Dr. Frank Wallace and L. Ron Hubbard?



posted on Aug, 18 2007 @ 02:58 AM
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Okeedokee, I just received my "special" letter from the NT Society and being so intuitive as they state in the letter I saw the scam immediately. Being curious as to what kind of scam I was being sent I googled and found this site. Now I am wondering how my address got to these scammers (in some kind of purchased mailing list, I'm sure) as I live in a very remote place in Zambia. So how do you stop these "special offers" from continuing to arrive? Is there a website to report this? Thanks for you help and lots of laughs while reading the posts.



posted on Aug, 21 2007 @ 06:15 PM
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Here is a new twist - they are no longer using a name. I receievd the letter (3 pages FRONT AND BACK - are they kidding?) yesterday. I could definitely sniff a scam, but it was amusing to read the stupidity they put out.

Anyway, with these new letters - no company name. They are sent from an address in Ohio with a return envelope with an address in Delaware. ALl they say is that they are a secret society - and they can't tell me who they are! They also tell me that if I get their free pamplhet that I can't tell anyone else who they are. (ahhh, and I wanted to broadcast it - bummer


Mine was signed with the name Kirsten Hart, just like many others.

Scammers annoy me. Makes me think of a punishment i saw listed once for virus writers - I think it applies here


All scammers should be forced to clean McDonalds grease traps with their toungues!



posted on Aug, 22 2007 @ 12:24 AM
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My letter came with no company name either. The return envelope just says, "Invitation Processing" with an address in Dover, DE. But the fax appears to be the same as everyone else's - (716) 447-7488. I guess they are trying to make it harder for us to google them online. My letter also came from a Kirsten Hart.

I think the web site is now at www.neo-techsociety.com. I remember getting some similar junk mail 15 years ago (claims to give you power, wealth, popularity, etc.) in newsprint paper (same generic advertising) from Neo Tech. I was curious then, but not curious enough to pay the price for the literature. So I searched to see if this letter is the same thing. Sure enough, it's the same thing. The invitation letter is just a solitication for your money, like most junk mail.

I was looking for a home-based business, which I'm sure is how this company got my address. It makes me a little mad, b/c it means a lot of home-based businesses are also scams!



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