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reply posted on 26-8-2005 @ 07:11 PM by No1tovote4
Originally posted by Majic
In Memory Of A Fallen Warrior

Originally posted by jonke05
"ColLemke". I must take exception with your postings...not from research, but from PERSONAL experience. You see, I too was an officer...I too have received advanced degrees (Masters and Ph.D.)...and I do not recall getting that special "promotion" as a result of successful completion of either!

Alas, Col. Lemke was shot down over ATS on August 16, 2004 -- over a year ago -- and remains missing.

I fear the worst.

Though he may no longer be among the living, he left behind an impressive service record, which consists of a spirited campaign of
twelve posts, all regarding the NovaTech Society.

Undaunted by facts, unchallenged by the need to actually be awarded a commission by the U.S. Air Force, unable to successfully complete his mission through no fault of his own, he will forever live on our hearts as a reminder of what one member can accomplish in the span of a mere nineteen days on ATS.

Now he is gone, but he will never be forgotten.

Or as we used to say in the Navy, he's "still on patroll".



Sad indeed, and now we may never find out if he has become a Casanova. I am sure if we contacted the Air Force he would receive a missing man formation his commission notwithstanding. A virtual man among men...




reply posted on 29-8-2005 @ 09:47 AM by jonke05
Originally posted by Majic
In Memory Of A Fallen Warrior

Alas, Col. Lemke was shot down over ATS on August 16, 2004 -- over a year ago -- and remains missing.

I fear the worst.

Though he may no longer be among the living, he left behind an impressive service record, which consists of a spirited campaign of
twelve posts, all regarding the NovaTech Society.

Undaunted by facts, unchallenged by the need to actually be awarded a commission by the U.S. Air Force, unable to successfully complete his mission through no fault of his own, he will forever live on our hearts as a reminder of what one member can accomplish in the span of a mere nineteen days on ATS.

Now he is gone, but he will never be forgotten.

Or as we used to say in the Navy, he's "still on patroll".



Majic - Thanks for the update...2004...hmmm...what can I say; im an Aggie.



reply posted on 20-11-2005 @ 12:21 AM by Os Wilkes
I think the "Col" was hoist by his own petard. Or, as the Scientologists say, he caught a "foot bullet".

The reason I bring up Scientology is that Noveau-Tech and all it's associations are CURIOUSLY SIMILAR to Scientology in their approach and business workings. And in it's assignation of "agents" on a "mission" (we call them "trolls" and "shills") who systematically babysit message boards like this to either bait their "enemies" or "honestly discuss" the virtues of their "tech". In Scientology, it is S.O.P. to lie if that will gain you converts and to attack anybody that even QUESTIONS your agenda. So, I have seen them posing as alien abductees, Buddhist Bodhis, and now~ AF Officers.

And here we have the "Col" fearlessly (and without adequate ammuniton) diving into this thread to backhandedly promote Noveau Tech with a flak barrage of forked-tongue pseudo-Christian blather, imploring us to keep an open mind and setting himself up as an example by telling us that he has acquired the Noveau Tech drivel himself. He pumps up a military connection and knowledge of secret societies with the clear intent to lend creedence to Noveau Tech's fringe paranoia about Secret Societies, even BEFORE he has read the tracts. Feh. I myself throw my background into the mix when I am discussing such things, but my motives are obviously different. My own dubious distinctions do qualify me to spot the bogies. IMO this Bird Col. and Noveau Tech BOTH don't fly...

What makes me think he is a Scientologist?


I originally came here to learn more about this Novatech Society "BS?" and am now just trying to get to know you frequent users of ATS. My hobbies that relate to this site are ghost hunting and UFO's; and more specifically the minipulation of time, space, matter, and the correlation of all three.


Notice the Col. promotes the concept of "minipulation" (sic) of Time Space and Matter. All he left out of the Scientology Doctrine is the word "Energy" which would have spelled MEST. But when they use their own cult speak, people can easily spot them. And it was hard enough for the birdbrain, erm... I mean BIRD COL. to use proper grammer and spelling let alone watch out that his cult slip wasn't showing. Not to mention that not only did the Bird Col. sign onto this mission, but several others also tried to control the direction of this thread by joining at once. I wonder if they all had the same IP addy's??? They all had the same atrocious grammer and spelling.

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and lays an egg like a duck~ yadda yadda.

Anyhoo... I smell a Scientology "Conspiracy".

How are Noveau Tech and Scientology connected?

Re: Noveau Tech

members.tripod.com...


What these people are doing, basically, is using Objectivism as a launching pad for their own theory of self-improvement via "collapse of personal mysticism". Where they veer way off-course into their own variant of mysticism is through their baseless assertions about

Civilization of the Universe

Extraterrestrial "Zons"

Thinkons (particles of consciousness)

Universal Computer (alien Internet)

As you and I both know, arbitrary assertions are readily dismissable in the Objectivist epistemology. Why these folks have to pervert Objectivism into a bunch of mumbo-jumbo is beyond me, but here's their publicly stated reasoning:

The founder of the Neo-Tech company, Wallace Ward (aka Frank Wallace), started with the benevolent intention of "collapsing mysticism worldwide". There's job security for sure. Anyway, his first publication, The Neo-Tech Reference Encyclopedia, took an Objectivist look at 100 or so books and offered a thumbnail review of them. It also supplied a set of 144 "primary concepts" that were basically Objectivist treatments of various everyday situations from romantic relationships to church attendance. This publication was commercially unsuccessful, so Wallace had to regroup and start again.

While all this was happening, Wallace was also pursuing the development of life-extension technology. He was storing hard currency in a safe in the floor for start-up of an overseas research company that would be free of FDA regulations. Apparently, he was not paying taxes on this money, and his ex-girlfriend turned him in to the IRS. He spent a few years in federal prison. While there in 1986, he pounded out The Neo-Tech Discovery, a book that condensed the original Neo-Tech manuscript into "114 Advantages". This book was published by his family under the newly reorganized Neo-Tech Publishing (NTP) company and became a commercial success.

Since that time, many other books have poured from that company. The most notable one is The Neo-Tech System, which explains how to set up a publishing company similar to NTP. The interesting thing about their approach is the use of 100% accountability. There are no "employees", only a set of interdependent contractors, each of whom is responsible for his own bottom line.

[color=Maroon]With the arrival of the Internet, NTP has opted to publish some of their books on the Web and make money marketing other materials. One is Kevin Trudeau's Mega Memory system. Trudeau and Ward met each other in prison. Ward was in jail for tax evasion, Trudeau for credit card fraud. Trudeau has been heavily involved in Scientology in the past, and now he's a Neo-Tech advocate. This could have several interpretations, so I'll just leave it at that.[/color]

You can now read The Neo-Tech Discovery in its entirety on the web at www.neo-tech.com... This book is really the "hook" to get people started. The actual attitudes offered in this particular work are largely in line with Objectivism. It's only later that the mumbo-jumbo is introduced.

Why did Wallace do this? Somewhere among the literature, he points out that he needed to make Neo-Tech larger-than-life in order to persuade people to his point of view. He claims that the concepts of "Civilization of the Universe", etc. are merely "metaphors" for the evolution of man into the ultimate being--one who controls existence through his conscious effort and productivity. However, a candid survey of the writings tells a different story, namely, the treatment of these concepts as already having concrete referents. This is dishonest concept-formation, which is ironic since Neo-Tech is supposed to mean "fully integrated honesty".



Now go to the badbusinessbureau and pull up the complaints:

www.ripoffreport.com...

Notice that it is dawning on folks who posting on the above site that the purchase of a book "Natural Cures" by Kevin Trudeau was the "foot in the door" for their name being included amongst the "chosen few" who received "personal" correspondence regarding their great untapped potential from Noveau Tech. Which, like the come-on for Scientology, plays on vanity and greed minus the altruism. And Kevin Trudeau? What kind of parasite is worse than one which capitalizes on the frailty and illness of others?

Oh... could it be....

SCIENTOLOGY?????


www.raullopez.org...


Raul Lopez was a young man who got in a devestating accident, which caused impaired cognitive function. In other words, he was a sitting duck for a scam. And Scientologists promised to restore his mental functions, if only he paid the big bucks for their "tech".

What's it all about? Improving the human race?

Nope.

It's about MONEY.

Trudeau sells a concept of health to sick people, and he always holds out the carrot that they need to spend more money to get the real secret. After you go through several levels of this, you either catch on or die.

Scientology promises mastery over MEST, and that in the end that you shall be a god unto yourself. Satanism does that for FREE. However, in Scientology, you need to keep spending money on their Tech in order to make progress. You never find out that it is completely useless until you acheive the highest levels and STILL cannot make that ashtray levitate or your girlfriend swallow.

Primerica, Quixtar, the Hunger Project, Werner Earhardt...

It's about MONEY.

Making YOUR money transsubstantiate itself into THEIR Bank Accounts.

Oh well...

Anyhow, I think it is too bad the "Col" is MIA. You know what they say:

"When you are out of Scientologists, you are out of quality targets"

Love,

Os

DOH!!! This is my second edit, and I hope the colour format works this time!!! It looks PERFECT on the preview!!


[edit on 20-11-2005 by Os Wilkes]

[edit on 20-11-2005 by Os Wilkes]



reply posted on 1-12-2005 @ 11:44 AM by Niaren
Should anyone be interested on some of the specifics about the company and the 'founder' Dr. Frank R. Wallace who supposedly translated an ancient book into English, check out the following site:

legalminds.lp.findlaw.com...

This should dispel any ideas that this really is a legitimate offer that does what it claims. I'm actually surprised that they've not had any suits against them (that I could find) for false advertising. Anyway, this little piece of research was quite illuminating.

What sparked my curiosity and made me do some serious investigating is that they first contacted me back in 1984.....the letter and such hadn't changed much, so I sent again for the 'free' orientation booklet (curiousity got me). Hmmm, it had changed a good bit, but there were a couple of other names in there that I recognized from the 'Seminar Game' of getting people to part with money they didn't have to spend, ie Eric Savage and Mark Hamilton. I'd seen one or both of those names attached to various travelling seminar groups, so I decided to do some serious research.

Hope some of you find the information useful.


reply posted on 7-12-2005 @ 01:37 AM by Whompa1
www.novatechsociety.org...

This would appear to be their website. Pretty funny really.. after reading this thread over the weekend I received today you guessed it an invitation from this place. It totals out at 7 pages in length. I am going to scan it in tonight and post the actual letter in the next few days.


reply posted on 21-12-2005 @ 11:49 PM by psykotrol
My sister got this letter from the "Nouveau Tech Society". I only read the thread about this because there were too many pages. But I google Nouveau Tech Society and got this site: www.nouveautechsociety.com... Im sure it has been posted before but I didnt see it. I read that someone said there was no site for these guys, so I just thought Id be some help. It seems like a cult or scam to me. In her letter it said that she had the chance to be an actress and crap like that. Seems like a load of bullcrap to me.


reply posted on 1-1-2006 @ 06:31 PM by No1tovote4
Originally posted by psykotrol
My sister got this letter from the "Nouveau Tech Society". I only read the thread about this because there were too many pages. But I google Nouveau Tech Society and got this site:
www.nouveautechsociety.com... Im sure it has been posted before but I didnt see it. I read that someone said there was no site for these guys, so I just thought Id be some help. It seems like a cult or scam to me. In her letter it said that she had the chance to be an actress and crap like that. Seems like a load of bullcrap to me.


Definitely a load of crap.

Their 'secret' seems to be to repeat the word Cassanova as many times as possible. If you read the letter, you most likely would have a sore stomach the next day because of the laughter. I got one, it was simply one of the funniest things I have ever read.

If you send the letter in you will get an even larger advertisement to buy a book for about $130. I suggest you tell your sister to avoid these people.


reply posted on 26-1-2006 @ 01:33 AM by Rya
I received a surprisingly similar letter to those mentioned in this post today. The return address on the outer air mail envelope read 3357 H. Southpark Place Grove City, OH 43123 and it was post marked Grove City Jan 21 '06. The inner return order envelope was addressed to the Nouveau Tech Society, PO Box Clifton, NJ 07015-5204. The 8 page letter was written by a man calling himself John Finn, included a fax number 716.447.7488 and copyright 2005.

The letter is huge taking up the majority of each the page stretching the margins almost to the limit. It gushes on about a secret society derived from a text written by a very rich and powerful ancient society in Greece. Dr. Frank R. Wallace is named as the man who refined the "2300 year-old" manuscript and the hero to John Finn who claims to have made millions with his secrets.

While reading the letter I Googled Dr. Frank R. Wallace and came upon a forum post I thought may be interesting here, describing the letter I received but also mentioning Zon Power, I & O Publishing, The Nova-Society and Neo-Tech Publishing.

The post written as an FAQ, states that Dr. Wallace, Dr. Higgs Field and John Flint are all known psuedonyms for one Wallace Ward. Wallace was a low level chemist at Du Pont but according to this he did not achieve the notoriety mentioned in the letter and may be viewed as crazy by some of his family members- a niece is mentioned but not directly quoted except second hand.

The FAQ's ask important questions including "Is Neo-Tech/ZonPower a cult?" and "Did Wallace Ward (Frank R. Wallace) really spend time in jail?".

It gives a couple of pricing lists for I & O book titles including the complete works of Wallace Ward related to poker and gambling secrets.

Former employees have posted tales of "rampant nepostism" and other woes and it also lists the Wallace family tree in association with the publishing company I & O founded by Wallace Ward in the 70's.

legalminds.lp.findlaw.com...

I am glad I was able to find that post as well as the information on your site. I would have sent in the free order form just out of curiousity instead of completely avoiding these grifters.

Thanks!
Rya


reply posted on 8-2-2006 @ 05:06 PM by drillerboy
www.neo-tech.com...
Got the letter myself and found that all the stuff from their books is online...
Hit Print and save some money

[edit on 8-2-2006 by drillerboy]
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