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Is Long Valley Supervolcano Activating? Swarm Just started

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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
reply to post by Celestica
 


I have no doubts the spikes are either man made activity or faulty equipment. PuterMan already knew what my concern was, and addressed it. The underlying signal though appearing across four stations at once was worth asking about and checking on. And notice who I asked. And notice who delivered. No master's degree needed.


lmao, yeah, but he's gonna need a liscence for that grumpiness!....




posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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I would like to post my opinion on this. First off I would like to put out there, if one of the worlds worse nuclear disaster is unfolding and you were in a nuclear treaty not to test any more nuclear weapons but u really wanted and needed to test some when would be the perfect time, and where would be a perfect area. The hawthorn area has geothermal activity there so seismic activity is not uncommon. I really would be to concern about long valley going off unless we start seeing earthquakes in 6.5 and above mag same thing in yellowstone. 2. It's around a major fault so seismic activity is not uncommon. 3. It's in a minning area, so earth movements and seismic activity is not uncommon. 4. It's around some military area so seismic activity man made it's not uncommon.

We really can't rule out anything. Just have to gather more
Facts and watch it unfold. I just drove through Nevada for 3 days and I can tell u it's vast alot of mining, military and beautiful open land. I might go up to the u of u and see if I can find out anything more since I start there in the fall. Puterman I trust your opinion on this because I know you investigate the data but just wondering could harmonic tremors look different with a super volcano then with a smaller one we can only guess what they look like?



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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Hi all ya all!
I've been paying attention to the seismic data on Long Valley, Yellowstone, the USA eq. maps and world maps on USGS for the past few years. It appears to me that HAARP IS really behind the earthquakes in Japan and other strategic places where they want mass devastation. I didn't want to believe that the US govt. would want to take out it's own people, and they are not. It is the New World Order people that want to get rid of all but 5% of the world population that is manageable for them. At first I thought it was BS, but the more I learned from the experts, the more I realized it was true. What an Awe ****! These things ARE all connected. I'm sure those of you who are in the know will agree with me. We can't run or hide from this anywhere. Here is how I think this will go down(and soon!). First Long Valley because it's under the radar nationally, and more people are watching Yellowstone. They ARE being triggered by earthquakes in Japan. Yellowstone goes next, and maybe Mt. St. Helens ( cedar flats), and Mt. Rainer. (Is this possibly the "Solid Curtain" that the military is preparing for? It certainly would create a "Solid Curtain" of ash, SO2 and God knows what else across the USA and world. And don't forget to throw in all the Uranium and spent nuke waste starting with Nevada test site area and Hanford Wa. Throw in the nuke reactors and enriched uranium plants in Idaho near Yellowstone and all over the US and we're toast! The half life for that stuff is thousands of years! Oh, I forgot the 1500 nuke weapons we have here too that will also go up. Anyway, look at USGS USA earthquake map. The data shows the earthquakes moving from Long Valley to Yellowstone. The plumes under the volcanoes are not just straight down, they angle down into adjoining states. The magma chamber for Yellowstone is probably a lot closer to Long Valley than we think. You might want to check out the Mammoth deep hole seismic data on USGS (MDH 1, MDH 2, and MDH 3) too. Looks like the fireworks are going to start soon! At least to me. When you see the deep hole data it looks pretty bad. The seismic recorders are not accurately working out there in Yellowstone. So what's new...
One last comment and then I'll end this. For those of you who just look at the Long Valley Observatory and Yellowstone Observatory home page where they say that the color is "green" and everything is normal, it's a CROCK! The government does NOT want you to know what is coming. Like others have said, there Will be mass chaos for those who are not killed immediately. The objective is to get rid of as many of us as is possible. By giving warning, that reduces the number of people who are unprepared for the event. (Not that anyone could really prepare for this anyway). Remember the wizard of Oz: Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Screen! At some point we have to think for ourselves. In heaven there is no beer, so I'm going to have some while I'm here! CHEERS TO ALL!! and GOD BLESS!!



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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I have a silly question...do these anamolies happen every 5 minutes always on the 58 second mark? If so I have something that might on a long stretch be relevant. If not, I'm just grasping at straws.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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No, its a good question. But it could just be that the device reads at regular intervals. I would be interested to see what the answer to that question is myself.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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Just got out of the shower..

Did you call me grumpy? -.-

I try not to take sides or anything when I type as to try to avoid this, but it seems when you don't act the norm of 'happy' people automatically assume that you're are upset (off topic, i know, sorry)

So this is what I am confused on, exactly what are these 'signals' or whatever that you keep talking about? (Lost in the username sea so bare with me) And if its not man-made than where are the signals coming from? I mean, the earth can't produce radio waves and whatnot on its own, can it?



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 12:19 PM
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RYN shows a long line today, which equates to your thickening. RYN.NN..EHZ.2011.106

The top image is the seismogram slice showing the times I took, which was 11:30 am to 13:00 UTC. The next image shows the waveform of that slice and the area highlighted is the thickening.The spectrum of that shows a creschendo of volume and then a sudden cut-off. The next two are just close ups of the thickened are as waveform and spectrum.



This is the sound file for that area: RYN.mp3

Engine run up? Sounds very like it. Is there anything close that could do that?



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Basically yes that appears to be the case. Generally when i pull the waveforms I can tell from converting them to sound files what the potential sources may be as far as earthquake and volcanic noises are concerned. It is easy enough to spot any concerning HT which is what we are looking for here.

HT has a very definite signature that is easy to both spot on the spectrum and to hear in the sound file. If there is anything that I consider might be HT then I will pass it through a Fourier transform algorithm to confirm harmonic frequencies.

When it comes to man made sounds these can be anything. Some will be wind but some will be interference. Everything in the system is electronic these days so there are umpteen different places that stray sounds can creep in. Geologists will recognise the patterns on the seismograms. I recognise the sounds, I just find it easier that way!

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Me Grumpy!!
See my avatar area.
edit on 16/4/2011 by PuterMan because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 12:39 PM
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could harmonic tremors look different with a super volcano then with a smaller one we can only guess what they look like?


I would say no to that. Harmonics are harmonics where ever they are. It really would not matter if it was a supervolcano or gas escaping from a pipe. Either would produce a recognisable harmonic, and in some cases an audible one.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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reply to post by kissitgoodbye
 


I believe you can get pills for that.

An alternative would be a medicinal plant.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 12:46 PM
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Ah, well thank you very much for the information.

Oh.... grumpy I see >.>; this is what happens when you dont sleep for days on end..



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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I have stated my opinion based on scientific data posted by USGS, HAARP, concerned geologists and nuclear physics experts. You are also entitled to your opinion. It's easy to make light of this when you are not educated on the subject matter. You might want to get some of those pills or medicinal plants before the stuff hits the fan.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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THAT is the rumbling noise eveyone is talking about...at least it sounds like what I have heard a few times....Could it be possible to hear above ground? It could not be any closer to what I heard!



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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This was my feeling on it as well. Sounds just like it, but remember that is 10 x speed but it could be the same thing.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by Celestica
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I'm not really the expert on this kind of thing but from reading other peoples posts I gather that in an absolute worse-case scenario that SoCal would be inhabitable, but I highly doubt that is the case.


Depends...are there any of those marvellous nuclear power stations very cleverly positioned along or near the fault?

If so...then i would say no, SoCal would not be habitable..a lot of it anyway.
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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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So PM, what is the 4 to 7 or so Hz horizontal band at the bottom of that spectro, and what are those horizontal bands above it, pretty evenly spaced?

One thing's for sure. The NN network has some major issues. I have had opened up for a while now about 20 stations on that network. And I have pairs of stations, several pairs, that are showing identical waveforms at different amplitudes- but get this: the stations are like 50+ miles away from each other!


Look at the top and bottom channels in this example:



I got the coordinates of both those stations, plotted them, and they are 50+ miles apart. And this occurs on several other pairs as well.

Some stations appear to be working normally, but man! These guys need some serious work on those things. Makes me wonder if there WAS ht, how in the world they would detect it. So many stations are clearly unreliable on that network. I wonder if they have masters degrees too?


I know, things cost money. Yeah, spare me, I got it.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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Yeah got those. I think you misunderstood. That was an awful lot of woe in one wall of text. That is why i said that.

To follow through however since you mention it:


It appears to me that HAARP IS really behind the earthquakes in Japan and other strategic places where they want mass devastation.


HAARP cannot cause earthquakes. That is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. There is no way radio waves can do this, or at least no one can present any sort of means by which this could happen. If you believe this is not the case then please reply here. You will be the first if you can demonstrate this. No one else has managed to do so thus far.


I didn't want to believe that the US govt. would want to take out it's own people, and they are not. It is the New World Order people that want to get rid of all but 5% of the world population that is manageable for them. At first I thought it was BS, but the more I learned from the experts, the more I realized it was true.


Please define which experts those would be?


First Long Valley......They ARE being triggered by earthquakes in Japan.


Really, prove it.


Yellowstone goes next, and maybe Mt. St. Helens ( cedar flats), and Mt. Rainer.


Tsk, missed a few there


(Is this possibly the "Solid Curtain" that the military is preparing for?



SC/CS-09 will consist of more than 100 simultaneous field training exercise attacks across the country, each designed to test different regional AT/FP operations. Scenarios range from low-key events, such as recognizing and countering base surveillance operations, to higher-tempo and active simulated emergencies such as small boat attacks on waterfront bases and cyber attacks on installations.


Source: Navy.mil


The data shows the earthquakes moving from Long Valley to Yellowstone.


Does it? Please demonstrate.


You might want to check out the Mammoth deep hole seismic data on USGS (MDH 1, MDH 2, and MDH 3) too. Looks like the fireworks are going to start soon! At least to me. When you see the deep hole data it looks pretty bad.


But when you see a seismo set with a problem it does not look so bad.


The seismic recorders are not accurately working out there in Yellowstone.


Again please demonstrate this.


One last comment and then I'll end this. For those of you who just look at the Long Valley Observatory and Yellowstone Observatory home page where they say that the color is "green" and everything is normal, it's a CROCK! The government does NOT want you to know what is coming. Like others have said, there Will be mass chaos for those who are not killed immediately. The objective is to get rid of as many of us as is possible. By giving warning, that reduces the number of people who are unprepared for the event. (Not that anyone could really prepare for this anyway). Remember the wizard of Oz: Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Screen! At some point we have to think for ourselves.


My only observation on that score is that if they really were trying to set off Long Valley, Yellowstone, Mt Rainier, Mt St Helens, Mt Baker, Mt Shasta, Arkansas, New Madrid, the GOM and everything else then the would be little point in them hiding in Denver!


In heaven there is no beer, so I'm going to have some while I'm here! CHEERS TO ALL!! and GOD BLESS!!


And you know this for a fact



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Celestica
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The only 2.7 I see is from 6 hours ago

edit: Actually the only one worth mentioning on the scale of size would be the 4.1
edit on 16-4-2011 by Celestica because: (no reason given)


I posted the most recent (2.7) to enable people to spot the lava flow area south of the Hawthorne Swarm as that quake is situated on the northern lip of the (unnamed) lava flow on Google Earth. It's meaningless without the Google Earth and the Quake KML.


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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by kissitgoodbye
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I have stated my opinion based on scientific data posted by USGS, HAARP, concerned geologists and nuclear physics experts. You are also entitled to your opinion. It's easy to make light of this when you are not educated on the subject matter. You might want to get some of those pills or medicinal plants before the stuff hits the fan.


Listen up newbie... first of all, welcome to ATS!

Now, you see all those letters and numbers under PuterMan's AV on the left hand side of his posts? Those are called "stats", short for "statistics". PuterMan is a LONGTIME member here at ATS and also a VALUABLE contributor. A legend, much like TA, the OP.

I highly suggest you start taking a look around here a little bit, before you go spouting off on who is "not educated on this subject matter". PuterMan happens to be ONE OF THE MOST educated on not just earthquakes, but HAARP too.

So about those pills, take a chill one and come back and join the conversation.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican

One thing's for sure. The NN network has some major issues. I have had opened up for a while now about 20 stations on that network. And I have pairs of stations, several pairs, that are showing identical waveforms at different amplitudes- but get this: the stations are like 50+ miles away from each other! .


You do understand that the USGS, NOAA and EPA have taken several major financial hits since 2001 are terribly understaffed and working with very old technology. In funding they are actually right now working at below 2001 dollars. And with all of the events of the past couple of years you can only imagine the difficulties.

All I have to say is- helluva time in history to cut these guys even more.

2011 remains below the USGS budget for FY 2001 in real dollars. Funding levels since 2001



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