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Inside info on comet Elenin (yes, you're being lied to)

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posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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Mayan prophesy includes 3 days of darkness. I could not conceive how the earth could ever experience 3 days of darkness unless this thing is the size of Jupiter and it does come close enough.

Drunvalo Melchizedek said If it happens don't panic. And remember you heard it from Zarp3333!




posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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The Space Station has the means to move itself out of the way. Hitting the Earth? Far more likely. Hitting a mobile object? Not so much.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by GreatScot
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JUST FOUND THIS PLEASE REMEMBER THESE GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS NOT US


Giant Stealth Planet May Explain Rain of Comets from Solar System's Edge

Giant Stealth Planet May Explain Rain of Comets from Solar System
Diagram showing the position of the Oort Cloud.
CREDIT: Southwest Research Institute

Our sun may have a companion that disturbs comets from the edge of the solar system — a giant planet with up to four times the mass of Jupiter, researchers suggest.

A NASA space telescope launched last year may soon detect such a stealth companion to our sun, if it actually exists, in the distant icy realm of the comet-birthing Oort cloud, which surrounds our solar system with billions of icy objects.

The potential jumbo Jupiter would likely be a world so frigid it is difficult to spot, researchers said. It could be found up to 30,000 astronomical units from the sun. One AU is the distance between the Earth and the sun, about 93 million miles (150 million km).



Most systems with stars like our sun — so-called class G stars — possess companions. Only one-third are single-star systems like our solar system.

Not a nemesis

Scientists have already proposed that a hidden star, which they call "Nemesis," might lurk a light-year or so away from our sun. They suggest that during its orbit, this red dwarf or brown dwarf star would regularly enter the Oort cloud, jostling the orbits of many comets there and causing some to fall toward Earth. That would provide an explanation for what seems to be a cycle of mass extinctions here.

Still, other astronomers recently found that if Nemesis did exist, its orbit could not be nearly as stable as claimed.

Now researchers point to evidence that our sun might have a different sort of companion.

To avoid confusion with the Nemesis model, astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette dub their conjectured object "Tyche" — the good sister of the goddess Nemesis in Greek mythology, and a name proposed by scientists working on NASA's Wide-Field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) space telescope.

It is the WISE observatory that, using its all-seeing infrared eye, stands the best chance of having spotted Tyche, if this companion to the sun exists at all, the researchers said. [WISE telescope's amazing images]

Matese and Whitmire detailed their research Nov. 17 online edition of the journal Icarus.

Comet-flinging sun companion

The researchers noted that most comets that fly into the inner solar system seem to come from the outer region of the Oort cloud. Their calculations suggest the gravitational influence of a planet one to four times the mass of Jupiter in this area might be responsible.

Two centuries of observations have indicated an anomaly that suggests the existence of Tyche, Matese said. "The probability that it could be caused by a statistical fluke has remained very small," he added.

The pull of Tyche might also explain why the dwarf planet Sedna has such an unusually elongated orbit, the researchers added.

If Tyche existed, it would probably be very cold, roughly minus 100 degrees F (-73 degrees C), they said, which could explain why it has escaped detection for so long — its coldness means that it would not radiate any heat scientists could easily spot, and its distance from any star means it would not reflect much light.

"Most planetary scientists would not be surprised if the largest undiscovered companion was Neptune-sized or smaller, but a Jupiter-mass object would be a surprise," Matese told SPACE.com. "If the conjecture is indeed true, the important implications would relate to how it got there — touching on the early solar environment — and how it might have affected the subsequent distributions of comets and, to a lesser extent, the known planets."

Is Tyche really out there?

The fact of Tyche's existence is questionable, since the pattern seen in the outer Oort cloud is not seen in the inner Oort.

"Conventional wisdom says that the patterns should tend to correlate, and they don't," Matese said.

If the WISE team was lucky, it caught evidence for the Tyche solar companion twice before the space observatory's original mission ended in October. That could be enough to corroborate the object's existence within a few months as researchers analyze WISE's data.

But if WISE detected signs of Tyche only once (or not at all), researchers would have to wait years for other telescopes to confirm or deny the potential solar companion's existence, Matese said.


source www.space.com...

SOME EVIDENCE OF EXISTANCE I SAY YES


Tyche is both hypothetical and a completely irrelevant object.

Got anything else?



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by NyxOne

Originally posted by GreatScot
reply to post by Elostone
 


JUST FOUND THIS PLEASE REMEMBER THESE GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS NOT US


Giant Stealth Planet May Explain Rain of Comets from Solar System's Edge

Giant Stealth Planet May Explain Rain of Comets from Solar System
Diagram showing the position of the Oort Cloud.
CREDIT: Southwest Research Institute

Our sun may have a companion that disturbs comets from the edge of the solar system — a giant planet with up to four times the mass of Jupiter, researchers suggest.

A NASA space telescope launched last year may soon detect such a stealth companion to our sun, if it actually exists, in the distant icy realm of the comet-birthing Oort cloud, which surrounds our solar system with billions of icy objects.

The potential jumbo Jupiter would likely be a world so frigid it is difficult to spot, researchers said. It could be found up to 30,000 astronomical units from the sun. One AU is the distance between the Earth and the sun, about 93 million miles (150 million km).



Most systems with stars like our sun — so-called class G stars — possess companions. Only one-third are single-star systems like our solar system.

Not a nemesis

Scientists have already proposed that a hidden star, which they call "Nemesis," might lurk a light-year or so away from our sun. They suggest that during its orbit, this red dwarf or brown dwarf star would regularly enter the Oort cloud, jostling the orbits of many comets there and causing some to fall toward Earth. That would provide an explanation for what seems to be a cycle of mass extinctions here.

Still, other astronomers recently found that if Nemesis did exist, its orbit could not be nearly as stable as claimed.

Now researchers point to evidence that our sun might have a different sort of companion.

To avoid confusion with the Nemesis model, astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette dub their conjectured object "Tyche" — the good sister of the goddess Nemesis in Greek mythology, and a name proposed by scientists working on NASA's Wide-Field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) space telescope.

It is the WISE observatory that, using its all-seeing infrared eye, stands the best chance of having spotted Tyche, if this companion to the sun exists at all, the researchers said. [WISE telescope's amazing images]

Matese and Whitmire detailed their research Nov. 17 online edition of the journal Icarus.

Comet-flinging sun companion

The researchers noted that most comets that fly into the inner solar system seem to come from the outer region of the Oort cloud. Their calculations suggest the gravitational influence of a planet one to four times the mass of Jupiter in this area might be responsible.

Two centuries of observations have indicated an anomaly that suggests the existence of Tyche, Matese said. "The probability that it could be caused by a statistical fluke has remained very small," he added.

The pull of Tyche might also explain why the dwarf planet Sedna has such an unusually elongated orbit, the researchers added.

If Tyche existed, it would probably be very cold, roughly minus 100 degrees F (-73 degrees C), they said, which could explain why it has escaped detection for so long — its coldness means that it would not radiate any heat scientists could easily spot, and its distance from any star means it would not reflect much light.

"Most planetary scientists would not be surprised if the largest undiscovered companion was Neptune-sized or smaller, but a Jupiter-mass object would be a surprise," Matese told SPACE.com. "If the conjecture is indeed true, the important implications would relate to how it got there — touching on the early solar environment — and how it might have affected the subsequent distributions of comets and, to a lesser extent, the known planets."

Is Tyche really out there?

The fact of Tyche's existence is questionable, since the pattern seen in the outer Oort cloud is not seen in the inner Oort.

"Conventional wisdom says that the patterns should tend to correlate, and they don't," Matese said.

If the WISE team was lucky, it caught evidence for the Tyche solar companion twice before the space observatory's original mission ended in October. That could be enough to corroborate the object's existence within a few months as researchers analyze WISE's data.

But if WISE detected signs of Tyche only once (or not at all), researchers would have to wait years for other telescopes to confirm or deny the potential solar companion's existence, Matese said.


source www.space.com...

SOME EVIDENCE OF EXISTANCE I SAY YES


Tyche is both hypothetical and a completely irrelevant object.

Got anything else?


You my friend are Hypothetical and as am I. I have shown to you that other planets and comets were once hypothetical.

If you would like me to elaborate on the subject of you and I then I have no problem



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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Kind of looks exactly like the make up of an ATOM dosn't it,, maybe WE are about too reach CRTICALITY as well.,, awsome picture.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:19 PM
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Does it matter?

If it's 3-4 Kilometers and it hits, it would pretty much effect the Globe
Where you gonna go?, Indianna, Alaska ?

I don't think strapping a rocket to Bruce Willis is going to save the Planet at the last minute.

And so, by saying "It Might Hit", would cause a massive panic. Buying Food, Water but Why, it would be pointless. Nobody's going to bother with work, just staring at the skies and praying etc....

And then what is if doesn't, you've destroyed the world because nobody's working.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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I have currently been working on a noval theroy about our universe and what you just said is so close to how I think

I will op this when I have it complete will supply all research and workings as much as I can that support this idea, I will also include as many current or accepted ideas from the popular Scientific community

Watch this space



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:35 PM
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I have currently been working on a noval [sic] theroy [sic] about our universe....



Interesting. I am working on a screenplay along those lines. I'd like input.....



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:38 PM
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I can't post this on Facebook so let me post it here.

It seems I just found out they are looking at trajectory and gravitational effects on the space station if they were to bring the orbit in closer to Earth. I was told that they have to move it rough once a month do to "debri" and that thy use to only have to move it very 6 months or so do to collision of objects. Now they have increased this and are only told that it's an object. No size or any other info. I just learned this this veining when asking a friend who works at JSC.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:39 PM
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And you assume too be able too think like me?? sorry,, not even close.

Well if i wasn't ,,,,,,, would you?



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:41 PM
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I can't post this on Facebook so let me post it here.


INSTANT Red Alert to BS.....

Just sayin'........



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:45 PM
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All the previous comets that have passed nearby us over the last 30 years has been met with great media fanfare. The fact nothing is being said is a red flag. If the situation was extremely dire, a mass extinction event, I would suspect the governments would do everything to 1: Insure their survival and 2: Do not cause a panic.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:46 PM
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No probs Pm me and ill give you as much as you would like to know im think ATS the movie lol

But all joking aside I would love to help you as much as I could any questions my ideas are for sharing

everyone will have the chance to read i welcome your input advice assistance



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by predator0187
Jesus Christ 11 flags? Edit 13


We need some sort of verification before giving flags do we not? I have received less flags for ground breaking technology.


I'm not saying he is wrong I'm saying I need some numbers and sources, not just an opinion.

We should wait for judgment until then...

Pred...
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Really? So upset that you don't receive enough stars? Do you print out your pages, and bring them home to hang on the fridge or something? The whole star and flag thing is ridiculous. All that matters is content . At least, that's all that should matter.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by zarp3333
Mayan prophesy includes 3 days of darkness. I could not conceive how the earth could ever experience 3 days of darkness unless this thing is the size of Jupiter and it does come close enough.

Drunvalo Melchizedek said If it happens don't panic. And remember you heard it from Zarp3333!


wait what?? i've read the mayan prophecies and i never read something about 3 days of darkness, i thought they just said it was the end of an era. if they really said that it would be weird because the bible also mentions days of darkness.
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posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Humanity have being lied to by TPTB since the beginning of the Roman Empire. There's Always Been 2 realities, one to manipulate the mass and one that only few can understand...



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 11:04 PM
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It will not hit the earth according to my understanding of biblical prophesy, but a spectacular light show creating unparalleled celestial phenomena for the entire earth to witness has been predicted as part of the very end of the "last days" and this is what interests me.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 11:10 PM
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Surely this has already been said :

The problem I'm thinking without having read all this thread, is that NASA are fearing that the coma, or tail of Elenin, will maybe still be around when we cross it's path after it's gone. (which is said to be 80,000 km in diameter.) In that case there's a) no worries about Elenin itself hitting us, and b) no worries about the safety of the original poster. What we seem to have instead is just a load of people freaking out and going conspiracy insane. The ISS though, yeah that could be a real problem, and I just hope that's not the case for those up there when they cross the path/coma/tail of the comet.

So err, yeah, back to all the madness I guess. Doubt a rational seeming post will make much difference here. And I'm baffled as to why this hasn't already been made the case if it's right, and instead we have all these pages of craziness.
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posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 11:13 PM
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I respect the fact that you stick to your views that is fine
respect the fact that i have mine we are both unique in our own ways but still we are flesh and blood and equal arent we

our thoughts are our own or are they just the thinkings of those before us?

do original ideas form outside the mind?

or are they influenced by society?

challenge your own mind not that of others and let there opinions be there own until you can answer these questions your mind is limited to yor own ideas/thoughts/dreams

"the dream of one man is the reality for millions" Me on inventors of our time

I do not intend to offend you PEACE



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 11:17 PM
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Are people slowly sucumming too Nuclide sickness?? ISS this ISS that ,, does anyone not realize that the ISS is not the only thing up their,, somebody post a pic of all the objects in oribt,, geez know one remebers where we get out T.V from???? have people gone completely insane?



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