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reply posted on 14-4-2011 @ 11:54 PM by Heyyo_yoyo
Originally posted by lagenese
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post by cloaked4u



Well, if this object is what i think it is (Niburu), it is approximately 4 times the size of Jupiter...


I believe you are referring to comet McNaught


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 12:10 AM by R3KR
reply to post by Ex_CT2



If thats the case then the space station is not the only thing that needs to be concerned. That is approaching commercial airline traffic !!!


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 12:11 AM by amongus
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
reply to
post by operation mindcrime



yes, i assume it is. what i said in the op is what my source told me. thats all. i'm not an expert on any of this. i'm presenting you with what i know.

"YOU know about the comet elenin?!?, nasa is worried it will hit the space station"


Riddle me this....if the comet is going to be so close that it might hit the ISS, wouldn't your "source" have said they are worried it will hit earth? I mean, forget the ISS...if it gets close enough to be a risk to a space station, the earths gravitational pull will draw it into the atmosphere, correct? So why the F would they care about the ISS?!


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 12:30 AM by Ex_CT2
Originally posted by R3KR
reply to
post by Ex_CT2



If thats the case then the space station is not the only thing that needs to be concerned. That is approaching commercial airline traffic !!!


Originally posted by R3KR
reply to post by Ex_CT2



If thats the case then the space station is not the only thing that needs to be concerned. That is approaching commercial airline traffic !!!


What? I think perhaps you misread. That's approx. 43,000 miles, not 43,000 feet.

Regardless, it seems to me that that's an extremely finely calculated result (0.0004617 au) for something that far away. I mean, there are a number of variables that have to be taken into account; it just seems so excessively *accurate*....


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 01:10 AM by Scaledown
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Agreed! That's the first thought I had, If it's close enough to hit a Space Station, what effects would the earths gravity have on it? and as others mentioned it's close enough to hit the moon.

Is anyone able to run calculations on the size of the comet and earths gravity effect on it that close? (way over my intelligence level)

(Still not fully comfortable believe a friend of a friend at NASA though ..... )


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 01:56 AM by Bluesquid
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Nothing is ever as it seems.

Hints surround you.
ISS space junk near miss


"(the ISS suffers several every year)" so why is this one reported?

First time spring is called a "fireball season"

I am going to find the smoking gun. Is right in front of our faces. Just a matter of pulling the thread from the fibers, and I will do it.


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 02:09 AM by Atlantican
reply to post by Heyyo_yoyo



At 2:21 there is a negative image of a rather familiar shape in the upper right!



reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 02:35 AM by BadBoYeed
reply to post by Atlantican



That's great

talk about a soho anomaly

If that happened right now i think half the people here would be in the mountains by morning


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 02:41 AM by PuterMan
reply to post by Heyyo_yoyo



I also ran this and got zilch, zero, nada. I ran a dozen or more other searches for other asteroids and got results on all of them. Comet Elenin brought up three references, none of which were related to Elenin.

Could this be because it is a comet and not an asteroid?

edit on 15/4/2011 by PuterMan because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 02:54 AM by galadofwarthethird
reply to post by Bob Sholtz



So what are you saying this comet is more then a comet op, and we are going to see some fireworks, or what? I really don't get your post, is it doom and gloom, or just sparks and possible fireworks. If it is doom and gloom we already know how that will go down, so if it is the end of the world then I for one fell fine.

Heres a song about how the end of the world will go down by R.E.M. which I'm sure your heard before, and just to make this thread more interesting.


"That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, an aeroplane -
Lenny Bruce is not afraid. Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn -
world serves its own needs, regardless of your own needs. Feed it up a knock,
speed, grunt no, strength no. Ladder structure clatter with fear of height,
down height. Wire in a fire, represent the seven games in a government for
hire and a combat site. Left her, wasn't coming in a hurry with the furies
breathing down your neck. Team by team reporters baffled, trump, tethered
crop. Look at that low plane! Fine then. Uh oh, overflow, population,
common group, but it'll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. World serves its
own needs, listen to your heart bleed. Tell me with the rapture and the
reverent in the right - right. You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright
light, feeling pretty psyched.

It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught in foreign tower. Slash and burn,
return, listen to yourself churn. Lock him in uniform and book burning,
blood letting. Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate. Light a candle,
light a motive. Step down, step down. Watch a heel crush, crush. Uh oh,
this means no fear - cavalier. Renegade and steer clear! A tournament,
a tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives
and I decline.

It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

The other night I tripped a nice continental drift divide. Mount St. Edelite.
Leonard Bernstein. Leonid Breshnev, Lenny Bruce and Lester Bangs.
Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly bean, boom! You symbiotic, patriotic,
slam, but neck, right? Right.

It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine...fine...
(It's time I had some time alone)"


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 03:17 AM by burdman30ott6
Well, here's the answer to most of the problems in this thread.
en.wikipedia.org...
Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) is a long-period comet discovered by Russian astronomer Leonid Elenin on December 10, 2010 at the International Scientific Optical Network's robotic observatory near Mayhill, New Mexico, U.S.A. At the time of discovery Elenin had an apparent magnitude of 19.5,[2] making it about 150,000 times fainter than the naked eye magnitude of 6.5.[5] The discoverer, Leonid Elenin, estimates that the comet nucleus is 3–4 km in diameter.[6] As of April 2011, the comet is around magnitude 15 (roughly the brightness of Pluto), and the coma (expanding tenuous dust atmosphere) of the comet is estimated to be about 80,000 km in diameter.

Emphasis mine.

An 80,000 KM coma equates to a 49,710 mile wide coma. I'd suppose that the projected distance this will pass from Earth has some sort of +/- margin of error. That means that the comet's dust cloud could very possibly contact the Earth. Now, this is extremely scary, but on the grand scheme of things probably not catastrophic. Dust and small ice particles would burn up in Earth's atmosphere and cause little more than a cool light show. The ISS, however, has no protective atmosphere. It would be like throwing an egg shell into a bead blaster if it passes through the coma.

One somewhat interesting thing I found while looking at this is the comment that the comet has a current 600,000 year heliocentric orbit but is highly subjected to perterbation from planets and, in short, they have no idea just how frequently it makes this pass by Earth. I then found this:
en.wikipedia.org...(stage)
Calabrian is a subdivision of the Pleistocene Epoch of the Geologic time scale. ~1.8 Ma.—781,000 yeas ago ± 5,000 years, a period of ~1.019 million years.

The end of the stage is defined by the last magnetic pole reversal (781,000 ± 5,000 Ka) and plunge in to an ice age


Not suggesting a link between Elenin & magnetic pole reversal, but I do find it somewhat intriguing. Not to mention the intrigue over the recent discussion of a possible mini-ice age and the fact that a full ice age heeled the previous pole reversal.


reply posted on 15-4-2011 @ 04:01 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by burdman30ott6



Earth passes through debris from comets all the time...


News reports had warned sky watchers in advance: On Nov. 18, 2001, Earth was due to plow through a minefield of debris shed by Comet Tempel-Tuttle. Innumerable bits of comet dust would become meteors when they hit Earth's atmosphere at 144,000 mph. Experts predicted an unforgettable display ... and it came.

Millions of people saw the show, but only three of them -- the ones on board the space station -- saw it from above. "We had to look down to see the meteors," says Culbertson. "That's because the atmosphere (where comet dust burns up) is below the station."
"A typical Leonid disintegrates about 100 km above Earth's surface," explains NASA scientist Rob Suggs. "The ISS is much higher than that. The station (like the space shuttle) orbits our planet at an altitude of about 350 km." Suggs is the leader of the Space Environments group at the Marshall Space Flight Center; he helped organize the crew's observations of the Leonids.


science.nasa.gov...
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