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Inside info on comet Elenin (yes, you're being lied to)

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posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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Strange having this in that vid.




posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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Though I am not an expert, I have read information from experts who state that, YES, the moon is moving away from the Earth. The Lunar orbit is increasing by about 3.8 centimeters a year according to laser ranging measurements made since the 1970's using the Apollo 'corner cube reflectors' deposited on the surface by the astronauts . That's just a scientific fact.

Of course, if you don't believe that we landed on the moon, then what I just posted is bunk.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by thorazineshuffle
Cat fight!!! Really, though. You both have good insight and I respect your posts. Please, carry on!


LOL im all for differing opinions but when people are downright condescending and completely dismiss what you say really gets on my nerves...its uncalled for and just outright rude....just shows the mentality of some people on here.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
hopefully i won't get a knock on the door over this. figured you people should know. i am going to message several mods, requesting my points, stars, and flags be reset, and this thread deleted.


I respect you for not saying who your source is dont listen to anyone else Bob, LEAVE THIS UP dont remove you have the right to express your opinion as much as anyone else and heck if you are right youll be more famous than that guy who predicts the EQ on ATS. ONLY TIME WILL TELL BUT LIKE JESSE SAYS IM NOT CONCERNED ABOUT LITTLE GREEN MEN BUT I AM OF MY GOVERMENT

the net is full of people paid to disinfo the truth and then theres those paid to support the lies

Thanks for the info



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:28 PM
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ok i've been seeing a lot of different comments here, when is elenin "supposed to hit"?? in may, october, november or december?



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by Feltrick
reply to post by NWOnoworldorder
 


Though I am not an expert, I have read information from experts who state that, YES, the moon is moving away from the Earth. The Lunar orbit is increasing by about 3.8 centimeters a year according to laser ranging measurements made since the 1970's using the Apollo 'corner cube reflectors' deposited on the surface by the astronauts . That's just a scientific fact.

Of course, if you don't believe that we landed on the moon, then what I just posted is bunk.


by 3.8 cm anually? lol so they have the moons orbit right down to centimeteres?? since 1970? so how do we know that its orbits hasnt always been that way? i mean the moon doesnt orbit the earth at the same distance constantly, thats why we have supermoons it comes closer, then moves out again, so i dont see how a shift of 3cm annually is anything to worry about or that it constitutes it "moving away"....



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by masqua

Originally posted by blackcube
spaceobs.org...



That' a VERY interesting convo going on. Thanks for that.


the conversation going on in comments on that page deserves a thread in its own right.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by Whateva69
reply to post by Atlantican
 




Strange having this in that vid.


can you tell me what im looking at??



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by manticorex5
ok i've been seeing a lot of different comments here, when is elenin "supposed to hit"?? in may, october, november or december?


It's not going to hit. Don't believe what someone who has an unknown source posts on a conspiracy site hehe

I know this because I have this friend who knows a guy that dates the daughter of someone important in an agency I can't name. He says it won't have any impact whatsoever.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by manticorex5
ok i've been seeing a lot of different comments here, when is elenin "supposed to hit"?? in may, october, november or december?


November it will be closest.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:32 PM
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Exactly! It's a UFO having sex with..... OMG!
edit on 15-4-2011 by thorazineshuffle because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:32 PM
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Its been mentioned that if this comet comes within 50K miles, all that would happen is we would get dust from its tail. But remember Shoemaker-Levy? By coming close to Jupiter it was pulled in and was broken up. The multiple fragments all followed in one after the other, and scientists calculated each fragment hit causing a fireball larger than the earth and sending an impact plume that rose to the top layer of clouds on Jupiter. A comet coming this close to earth, would earths gravity pull it in? Could this be a comet that will break-up into fragments, and cause a similar devastation of earth?



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Whether it's a comet or a brown dwarf all the alignments with the Chile quake, New Zealand quake, and pretty much the Japan quake spike interest. Once is definately possibly a coincidence. But three times? I dunno it seems whatever it is has SOME type of effect on earth. And whether it's causing the weird swirls in the Atlantic and in the sky, the supposed appearance of two suns? There have been so many articles from credible people stating "it's the first time we witnessed on earth", or "first time we've witnessed in space". That's enough to make you awake! When it's something they have never seen and never dealt with, how can they accurately predict 100% the outcome. They can't! Scientists give to the best of their knowledge...and the fact they state they have NO previous knowledge of multiple things happening should be enough to wake anyone up!



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by kro32

Originally posted by manticorex5
ok i've been seeing a lot of different comments here, when is elenin "supposed to hit"?? in may, october, november or december?


It's not going to hit. Don't believe what someone who has an unknown source posts on a conspiracy site hehe

I know this because I have this friend who knows a guy that dates the daughter of someone important in an agency I can't name. He says it won't have any impact whatsoever.



oh yea well my friends best friends sisters boyfriends cousin is married to the butcher who's friends brother is friends with john who plays pool with a guy whos second cousin knows a guy whos brother works for nasa and he says its gonna hit us head on



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Question: Would the sun (specifically solar ejections) have any affect on the trajectory of a comet? Could a wave of particles change the coarse of the comet, of could the comet "ride" a wave?


 
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posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder

Originally posted by karen61057

Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder

Originally posted by snc24
Just a question!

If Earth or any other planet on our solar system disappear could it mean something for the whole Solar System?

Thanks!
SNC


well yes...i mean if something where to happen to the moon then it was cause havok here on earth, we would all be drowned as there would be no tide, our magnetic field would be shattered, but if something happened to the outer planets that dont really influence us then im not sure...i mean the planets are where they are because of the sun and the other planets magnetic pulls thats why we are on our orbits, if any of them were taken away then our obits would change and our planet would move closer to the sun as the other planets magnetism wouldnt be as strong as the suns...so in general then yes it was cause choas in our inner solar system



I hate to tell you this deary but the moon is right at this very moment moving away from our planet. Its gravitational pull and our gravitational pull is not strong enough to even keep it within our orbit. It has influence on our tides but it does not keep the water in the ocean. We will still have tides, just smaller tides. Our magnetic field has nothing at all to do with the moon and everything to do with our iron core. But to anwer the question that you answered very badly. Yes if our planet was taken out of the equation all of the other planets in the solar system would shift in their positions. All the planets and the sun do an amazing dance with each other in the sky. The gravitational pull from each of these heavenly bodies has an effect on every other one.




oh im sorry DEARY i didnt realise we had an expert in our midst....the moon isnt moving away from our planet, for the moon to move away would mean that there was something larger nearby pulling on it, and last i checked there wasnt a huge mass in our inner solar system, tyche which is "possibly" on the outskirts hasnt pulled any of the other planets out of orbit.

secondly the moon is why we have tides, without the moon then the water is displaced causing flooding.

yes our magnetic field is geodynamo /the fluid core of the Earth, its electrical condctivity and its motions,

if a planet was to be taken out of our solar system then the surrounding planets orbits would change, so basically u just repeated what i said....and what i said badly acording to you and yes earth would indeed move closer to the sun as it wouldnt have the gravitational pull of planets behind it to keep it on its usual orbit thus the gravitional pull of the sun would be stronger....

next time u try to correct someone do your homework,,,,and try not to be so condescending DEARY


Not taking any sides here, nor am I intending any disrespect but I think last I heard that yes the moon IS slowly moving further away from Earth, so you might either want to edit your post or offer up some proof of your claims because I sense a huge embarrassment coming
Oh and the reason I chose not to include any source references? Its Friday, I am off work and tired, and besides google it....its ALL over.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder

Originally posted by Feltrick
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Though I am not an expert, I have read information from experts who state that, YES, the moon is moving away from the Earth. The Lunar orbit is increasing by about 3.8 centimeters a year according to laser ranging measurements made since the 1970's using the Apollo 'corner cube reflectors' deposited on the surface by the astronauts . That's just a scientific fact.

Of course, if you don't believe that we landed on the moon, then what I just posted is bunk.


by 3.8 cm anually? lol so they have the moons orbit right down to centimeteres?? since 1970? so how do we know that its orbits hasnt always been that way? i mean the moon doesnt orbit the earth at the same distance constantly, thats why we have supermoons it comes closer, then moves out again, so i dont see how a shift of 3cm annually is anything to worry about or that it constitutes it "moving away"....


They can make a measurement that exact because of the laser measurement. Yes, 1970, that's when the reflector was placed on the moon and it's not constant, it's moving away. No, the moon's orbit isn't perfect but the orbit is increasing. Yes, you can still have a Supermoon, but it's getting less super because it's moving away slowly.

I never said it was anything to really worry about, I was just letting you know that the moon is moving away. You were a bit sarcastic in your post about doing your homework. If you had gone to any astonomy site, you could have found this same information.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:38 PM
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If the orbit is increasing, will it not eventually break away from earth, or else crash into it, as the orbit deepens?



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder

Originally posted by karen61057

Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder

Originally posted by snc24
Just a question!

If Earth or any other planet on our solar system disappear could it mean something for the whole Solar System?

Thanks!
SNC


well yes...i mean if something where to happen to the moon then it was cause havok here on earth, we would all be drowned as there would be no tide, our magnetic field would be shattered, but if something happened to the outer planets that dont really influence us then im not sure...i mean the planets are where they are because of the sun and the other planets magnetic pulls thats why we are on our orbits, if any of them were taken away then our obits would change and our planet would move closer to the sun as the other planets magnetism wouldnt be as strong as the suns...so in general then yes it was cause choas in our inner solar system



I hate to tell you this deary but the moon is right at this very moment moving away from our planet. Its gravitational pull and our gravitational pull is not strong enough to even keep it within our orbit. It has influence on our tides but it does not keep the water in the ocean. We will still have tides, just smaller tides. Our magnetic field has nothing at all to do with the moon and everything to do with our iron core. But to anwer the question that you answered very badly. Yes if our planet was taken out of the equation all of the other planets in the solar system would shift in their positions. All the planets and the sun do an amazing dance with each other in the sky. The gravitational pull from each of these heavenly bodies has an effect on every other one.




oh im sorry DEARY i didnt realise we had an expert in our midst....the moon isnt moving away from our planet, for the moon to move away would mean that there was something larger nearby pulling on it, and last i checked there wasnt a huge mass in our inner solar system, tyche which is "possibly" on the outskirts hasnt pulled any of the other planets out of orbit.

secondly the moon is why we have tides, without the moon then the water is displaced causing flooding.

yes our magnetic field is geodynamo /the fluid core of the Earth, its electrical condctivity and its motions,

if a planet was to be taken out of our solar system then the surrounding planets orbits would change, so basically u just repeated what i said....and what i said badly acording to you and yes earth would indeed move closer to the sun as it wouldnt have the gravitational pull of planets behind it to keep it on its usual orbit thus the gravitional pull of the sun would be stronger....

next time u try to correct someone do your homework,,,,and try not to be so condescending DEARY


Lets RELAX friends
NWOnoworldorder was only asking
please remember that not everyone is Steven Hawkins or Carl Sagan on ATS and that when someone asks a question it often means that they dont know it themself

R-E-S-P-E-C-T



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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in the big picture a mooon moving away from earth at the rate of 3.8 cm anually would mean that in a century it would have moved less that a foot??

not exactly much is it? in fact probably not even worth mentioning because at that rate it would be millions of years befor it "moving" had any adverse affects on our planet by which time chances are we would all be wiped out....



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