reply to post by Shadowfoot
Why ask for the tread to be derailed, so you can enjoy another bitter rail on the successful in the society? Don't worry, there are enough bitter
threads on the site for you to pile on. All of them filled with economic fallacies.
The article you site is nothing but a bunch of liberal half truths tossed into a pile of trash. It does not segment types of income, does not
discount for the massively rich, it is disengenuous nonsense.
The those folks who don't pay income taxes do indeed pay payroll taxes - for programs that they pull cash out of, typically far more than they put
in. Want to get rid of the payroll tax? Cool - eliminate Social Security and Medicaid. They pay no income tax and fewer and fewer people in this
country are paying income tax each year. Every year, more folks are getting into the wagon and fewer people are pulling it.
The wage gap is true. News flash - the economy changed. Just about every job in this society has become more competetive and more technical,
especially the skilled trades. If someone sat on their ass and did not prepare themselves for quality employment it is their fault and nobody elses.
If someone did not work to ensure that their kids got prepared for the modern workforce, is not my problem and I should not have to pay for their
mismanagement of their or their kid's lives. It is like comparing a 1950s football defense against the typical offenses of today - guess what the
game changed and that defense just can not handle it anymore.
You're right that through legal loopholes, trusts, etc many of the rich pay little if any taxes. Lets fix that. I'm fine with that and the same
goes for corporations.
Your article naturally forgot the massive increase of in-kind subsidies that the poor receive today that they did not receive. Free medical, welfare,
free housing, free TV or internet, free utilities, free mass transit passes and the rest of the handouts. They don't count? Of course they
count. They count in the same way having use of a corporate condo in Vail for the executive is a part of his compensation.
This entire notion is that the rich are not giving the government something. Wrong. It is about the government not taking enough. What makes you
think that you or your government by proxy is entitled to half of what I make? To pay for failing schools that I don't use despite the fact that I
have 4 kids? To pay for the roads that are laden with potholes? To pay for the TSA agent who is jamming their hands down my pants? Why do you
think you have the right to take it? You think you have the right to take it for one reason - because I have it.
Please stop using this bs notion of "not giving enough" or "giving the rich more" and start being honest. The government is not taking enough.
What is a tax break for the rich? The entire phrase is verbal gymnastics. "We need to continue to take as much from the rich as we currently do"
is actually honest. Cutting taxes IS NOT increasing spending. It is not giving someone anything. Cutting taxes is taking less of something that
was never yours to begin with.
The entire class warfare business is tired, old and serves no legitimate purpose but to stir folks up. Its comical