Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by centurion1211
The bottom line point - now pay attention - of this thread is that the tide of public opinion is turning against obama. You can read it in editorials
like in the OP, you can hear it on MSM that once rabidly suppported obama,
What MSM 'rabidly supported obama' but are now 'turning against him'?
The murdoch owned WallStreet Journal?
It's funny to me how you seem to base your entire argument not on referenceable fact, but on projections and assumptions.
I suspect you will assume I am supporting Obama by challenging you to actual have some substance behind your assumptions.
It's kinda sad, but I would say, don't even bother with this...when people make references to opinions on drudge and other highly biased sites as
their "evidence", then you know they are grasping at straws (or straw men)...you can tell just by the language that they use to frame the debate,
that it's not honest intellectual discourse. Something that real libertarians often lament about on the right, this disdain for facts and
intelligence, since libertarians, on average, tend to be both educated and intellectually honest. I've read up plenty on libertarian philosophy and
policy positions and I can tell you that anyone who defends the obscene defense budget and wars of aggression, is most positively not a true
conservative, but a neo-con. Also known as a neo-liberal by the rest of the world. I'm sure you know all about these people and their globalist
police state agenda. That is what these people are defending, NOT "liberty" and "freedom" like they all claim to be so proud of. They are nothing
but apologists for the wealthy elite, authoritarian loyalists, and mouth pieces for the vampiric corporatists who hate the middle class and average
american. There is no good reason to defend American imperialism, endless wars, and the military industrial complex...all I have to say is Eisenhower
knew what was coming, and boy was he right (unfortunately)!
(By the way the worst is when they reference conservapedia
which, I've seen people on this thread do before.)
I would also say that these people are unwittingly adept at using logical fallacies to argue their claims. Because of course asking for verifiable
evidence for their assumptions automatically means you are an "evil-commie-obama-nazi lover", didn't you know that??? Disagreeing or questioning
something means you are automatically the polar opposite of what you are disagreeing with! see how that works?
