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Rampant Immigration Dividing The UK says Cameron

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posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by P3ACE0WAR

Originally posted by BarmyBilly
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If the parents were English and white then the child age 1 is English.


If the child wasn't born in England but his parents were, but his parent's parents weren't. What then?


I believe you have 42 days to apply for a British Passport IF at least 1 of the legal parents have 1.




posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by Dhimmie

Originally posted by BarmyBilly
Must be election time....


Immigration is having a negative impact on the UK we simply cannot take any more! But as a poster said above it's just empty words, Cameron is just a puppet.


It isn't election time for another 2.5 years or maybe 3, as I am an ex-pat these days I lost the last erection, sorry, election


I think he/she mean's the regional elections on May 5.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by sapien82
From what I see and read on the news a large percentage of Brits are quite simply xenophobic , they want to keep britain to themselves.


You are a member on ATS so have understand that MSM is not to be believed all the time and you go and use what is said in the MSM to damm a large percentage of us Brits.


Maybe they come here to take advantage of our health care system or benefits , probably because our country is generous and offers humanitarian aspects where others dont.
Are you really saying that as a human being you wouldnt offer free health care to others who need it , or benefits to those that have nothing in the first place? Maybe the come to the UK because we have a nice country and are nice people and have a good system.


I am saying that the people in this country come first, those who work hard and pay their taxes. When all the people in this country are fit and heathly, then I am more than happy to help the rest of the world. Right now, I do not want a penny of my taxes spent on people who add nothing to this country. I see hard work friends and family who are having to wait to get access to social and health services. They come first.


How does immigration effect you directly ? is it because when you goto the shops there are a larger proportion of people who are not from your local area who dont speak the same native tongue as you ?
Living in a city a metropolitan area is the exact same thing , now its happening to smaller towns and villages and its ruining your idealistic beautiful English perception of days gone by.


It prevents members of my family who have worked and paid taxes in the UK from getting any kind of employment because all the more menial jobs have been taken by EU immigrants who are happy to work for minimum wage.


The world is changing , you should with it , or be regarded as an old hack who is so set in their ways they should be put on a shelf to complain until they die.
the planet isnt getting any smaller , there are just more of us human beings , who are all the same human race.
I suggest you let your xenophobia die off with your attitudes towards human beings who seek refuge in our country.


Immigration have benefitted the growth of the British economy in the past, but today, do we need immigration?


Jump on the immigration / xenophobia hate band wagon , dont address the real issues effecting the UK

yes thats right its our rotten government , trying to exploit us , with hidden taxes , fines and revenues , job cuts and budget cuts , because of imperialistic war support and corporate whore bank fraudsters ass raping our economy and you

so just bend over and take some more , when you spout the hate , and propaganda that you have had shoveled into your tiny mind !


Talk about not wanting to discuss the topic of the thread. Find any excuse not to have a real and serious debate about issues that many in this country are concerned about.

And rather than assume that all posters to this thread are mindless morans who have no freewill or opinions, look at the body of work that posters in this thread has added to ATS in the past. Many of those who have contributed to this thread are reasoned posters who have minds of their own.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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So you think those asian lads handled the situation well and was their reaction justified,for god sake,that is not justified in any circumstance,you cannot justify spitting on a female out on the street, i suppose people like you think its ok becuase the bnp may or may not be racists,the courts have prove they are not,hundreds of times.The uk used to be a great country to live in and now its not , i can tell you a lot of the uk's problems were imported,the division was imported and the last and present goverment are mostly to blame.

Most people do not mind sensible immigration as long as it benifits the whole country and the people actualy have something to offer the country,we get nothing from immigration as it stands now and all we get is a net loss as well as our people suffering lack of services and jobs and lack of a future for our children



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:59 PM
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Actually Niger belongs to the Nigeriens, don't confuse Niger with Nigeria



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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I work a 50 hour week, each week, every week. I've never been on the dole, never taken a penny from our government.
I unfortunately work a de-menial job in a call centre for a well known shopping channel (which supposedly offers convenience, value and quality products *haha*)... the most mind numbing thing i've ever done BUT it still pays my bills.. not exactly what i thought life was gonna be but it gets me by, just.

As hard as i work i still seem to owe something to someone somewhere.. be it council tax, home insurance etc etc.. and i'm not eligible for any help, whatsoever.

Then, 3 doors down for me lives a family that have been in England for just under 6 months. They can't speak English, they don't work, and they don't integrate.
Now they've been given a car, a MASSIVE house, and it seems, everything they've ever wanted..
Its not about race, white/black/brown/whatever, its about whats decent and right. GB should be for GB, not to line the pockets who wants a free ride.

It really gets to me how much i work, and everywhere i look theres people taking the piss..getting more and more while doing nothing.
Its about time there should actually be some truth in the saying "there's no such thing as a free lunch".

This isn't racism, it isn't stirring hate... its just the damn truth.

I'm nowhere near Conservative, but thank [snip] Cameron has said something.

edit on 15-4-2011 by acertainshade because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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Immigration, not emigration.

I see the UK educational system has failed you.


Yes, too many bloody immigrants taking places at decent schools.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by lifeform11

Originally posted by The Sword
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Immigration, not emigration.

I see the UK educational system has failed you.




en.wikipedia.org...

they were quite clearly saying emigration has also gone up, what failed who?
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Poetic, I like you my English brother



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by P3ACE0WAR
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What defines English?

That's a good place to start discussing your nationalism.


English culture?

That most definitely isn't Sharia law, stoning women for adultery or 200 feet high minarets towering over Sandhurst.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by P3ACE0WAR

Just to add, no race, religion, nor ethnicity owns England.


Haven't you heard?

Multi-culturalism is dead.

Don't take my word for it.

Ask the President of France, the Chancellor of Germany and the Prime Minister of the UK.

edit on 15-4-2011 by ollncasino because: spelling



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1
When will the British Empire pay Compensation/Restitution for destroying the indigenous populations of the world,with their brand of culture?


If we have to pay them compensation, can we get our money back for leaving them with democracies, improved infrastructure, education and the rule of law?

If I could quote the Life of Brian

What did the Romans ever do for us?

: All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

: Brought peace?

: Oh, peace - shut up!



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by P3ACE0WAR

Just to add, no race, religion, nor ethnicity owns England.


Haven't you heard?

Multi-culturalism is dead.

Don't take my word for it.

As the President of France, the Chancellor of Germany and the Prime Minister of the UK.


We all know it's dead.

But what is the solution?



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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You do understand your way of living,the British way,is over? I will quote myself,as to you calling me racist.Ironic since I am of mixed decent.............


Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by sapien82
 


I hear you. I feel the deeds of the past,have come knocking hard for those living in the future. British people must embrace their brothers on their soil,regardless of skin color,or ideologies,or religion. They are there to stay,for better or worst. Live in peace.



I think the only thing racist,are those people that want other people to learn a language,or a custom,or the BRITISH WAY,or to get the hell out. Many of YOUR countrymen have that feeling.Just check this thread. Many in Germany had that feeling in 1933. You do see the point I am making,right? Where does it end? Whats next for the British on their Island. Camps for the Islamic people? How about finding a happy medium,instead of becoming a bigoted country overnight,due to the failures of your Government ?



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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To have concerns about the numbers of immigrants to the UK has nothing to do with racism, in fact a recent poll showed both Asian and Black voters are also worried about immigration.

We have now become the most over-crowded country in Europe.The infrastructure cannot cope, there is a housing crisis, the NHS, schools etc., are all facing cuts.




England is facing a "growing housing crisis", according to a report which estimates a shortfall of 750,000 homes by 2025.


BBC

Rather than train British people, I include those from ethnic minorities who have been born here, the governments have allowed cheap skilled workers from abroad to come in.

How much do interpreters cost us the tax payers, they are in schools, the legal profession, hositals, council offices to name but a few..

I have lived in the Netherland Germany and France,I learnt the basics of their languages, and adopted their culture, out of respect and I wanted to belong.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by forklift

We all know it's dead.

But what is the solution?


It certainly isn't letting in more Burqa clad foot soldiers of Islam.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by forklift

We all know it's dead.

But what is the solution?


It certainly isn't letting in more Burqa clad foot soldiers of Islam.


How about the millions who are already here?

Deport them even if they are born in UK?



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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i feel realy sorry for you becuase its people like you who have too suffer and you have to pay into the system twice just to get anything done,dont be suprised to find out when you retire that you get sweet FA, it doesnt matter how the money gets spent or if it even gets spent on you or an immigrant,it still gets spent and if the goverment needs more they can always squeez you from both sides,sum one is making a shed load of money and we are being taken for mugs



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by forklift

How about the millions (of Muslims) who are already here?

Deport them even if they are born in UK?


That's a very good point. How do we deal with second generation Muslim in the UK who owe their alligiance to Pakistan and Islam but not the UK but hold British passports?

What would you suggest?



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by forklift

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by forklift

We all know it's dead.

But what is the solution?


It certainly isn't letting in more Burqa clad foot soldiers of Islam.


How about the millions who are already here?

Deport them even if they are born in UK?


Nope, just capping new immigrants. Personally, if you don't work and you can, should sweep the fucing streets just to get your benefits regardless of your country of origin.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by forklift

How about the millions (of Muslims) who are already here?

Deport them even if they are born in UK?


That's a very good point. How do we deal with second generation Muslim in the UK who owe their alligiance to Pakistan and Islam but not the UK but hold British passports?

What would you suggest?


Don't know really. Repatriate them by giving them £500,000 each? BNP Nick Griffin suggested giving them £50,000 each.

And what kind of laws would have to be made in order to just target Muslims and Pakistanis? Islam nearly covers every race.

A law like that would really make SHTF.

Me thinks it's too late as we become more of a Global village by the second.

Shall we just relax and celebrate multicultiness?

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