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Rampant Immigration Dividing The UK says Cameron

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posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:59 AM
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reply to post by Cythraul
 


what is really going on ?

maybe you should go out to see what is really going on... and not on this site.




posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by sonnny1
When will the British Empire pay Compensation/Restitution for destroying the indigenous populations of the world,with their brand of culture ?


Never.
Why should I pay for something I had absolutely nothing to do with?
I assure you, coming from North East England I have never reaped the benefits of the long since gone British Empire and we have been screwed over far more than any other region on Earth by a sucession of British governments!



From South Africa,to the Americas,


Which The Dutch Afrikaaners took to a whole new level far exceeding anything proposed by The British.
And as for The America's; seek restitution / compensation from The Spanish and Portugese who far exceded the excesses of The British Empire when it came to exploitation and extermination.

And as a matter of interest look at the actions of The Aztecs and Incas themselves upon subjugated tribes and peoples when building their respective empire's.
How do you think they amassed such wealth?
Pretty straight forward, by exploiting people they conquered.
All Empire's have been built on the blood of the vanquished and the controlled.

What The British did is by no means unique and they were relatively tolerant, but they were very, very efficient and ordered.
Imagine the death, destruction and absolute mayhem left behind if The Spanish or French had conquered the lands Britain had?
Because one thing is certain, if Britain hadn't they would have, it was simply the way things were done then.

And yet still people use the standards and values of today to judge the actions of yesterday.
At least try to consider the facts in context to the time the events occurred.



injustices were perpetrated,Ireland to Scotland but not a word from the Brits then.


Oh dear, you do know that Scots and a high percentage of Irish are also Brits?
You do know that don't you?
Some of the finest, most passionate and zealous exponents of The British Empire were Scots.

If you intend to continue to vent your racist, anti-British spleen here on ATS at least try and learn some basic facts and try to construct something like a coherent and reasoned arguement, spewing indoctrinated claptrap like that has done you no favours at all.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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Just supposing for a moment that you had a working plan to kill off the United Kingdom I bet it would unfold exactly like the nightmare that we in this once proud nation are living through at this very moment! First of all you stick security cameras on every street corner so you can pry on what your people are up to. Its easier to keep track of people when they don't move about too much so you place the price of oil so high that it becomes unaffordable to ordinary people. Then you get them fighting amongst themselves in the name of terrorism before stripping them of their savings and security by way of the bankers. Once the people are truly confused and wondering whats going on you start to make millions unemployed taking away their safety nets and making them totally reliant on those who are planning their downfall... To cap it all off you then force those on the scrapheap to do the jobs they used to do or you refuse to give them their unemployment benefits, something that their tax's had paid into until they were made redundant...
And while they are doing this to us they deflect attention from their actions by bringing up such diversions as immigration, bail outs and the nonsense that fills our TV screens on a nightly basis. For gods sake, with all the sh*te going on in this country national newspapers still placed Jeremy Clarksons marriage problems on their front pages!!!!
Unless people wake up soon the United Kingdom will become a nation of slaves, all working for a pittance or their benefits, while the top eschelons such as surgeons, doctors etc, will flee abroad to where their talents will be appreciated.
"Just how did we let this happen to ourselves!? Will the last one out please turn out the light as the country can't afford the electricity bills..."



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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i doubt, let's be realistic i don't know witch forces bring us here to live all together on this rock but is was not the best idea.
now give me just positive thing about all this... you know what happen in the past and you know how it's happening now so tell me who are the one who are still suffring ?

i hate how this world is turning i don't understand why it's always the negativity , the ugliness and cupidity that man always puts forward, we lies to ourself,we dress the words of convenience and good attention but inside we are cowards and profiteers, we has a tendency to hog the blanket and when things went bad we have to find somone to blame...

tell me i m a liar tell me al this is not true... and i can go further... how we take advantage of the resources of other countries, how we are destroying their habitat for our own comfort ...
but who care ?

but now things are going banana the immigrant are the easy target

but the immigrant have to face like all the otheres the crisis and in the same time they have to face also the rascism and the negativity ...instead to work all together to get out from this insane situation, no people are against people...it's better and more intelligent
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posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by JohhnyBGood

Originally posted by soficrow
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So why isn't it happening?


Because the British raped and pillaged entire continents, and stripped them of their resources and left the people to starve - and they feel bloody GUILTY.

As they should.



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Try reading some real history from original sources and you would see that you have an utterly distortd view of what happened!




I've read the "history" books the winners wrote: one-sided, self-congratulatory, self-serving pap.



That is the way progrssives re-wrote and spun history, propagandaised whole generations - in order to create the multi-cultural socialist paradigm that rules today - and was primarily designed to destroy Western civilisation and replace it with a One World Order.


Nah. It was all those pesky revolts and revolutions - the monarchs and banksters backed off to shut everyone up, hang on to what they had, regroup and come back at us again from a different angle.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by sapien82
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we hate the BNP because their constituents attack members of public in the streets , and are scared of people with different skin colour than their own white skin !

they are phenophobics , fear of the appearance of other human beings , Yes i made that up!

but still what political party gets their constituents into fights on the street , spitting and punching people !



You are a liar ,the bnp party members and constituents are the victoms not the agressors as i can prove for every one on this site to see,the bnp members are attacked and spat on by thugs.The Bnp are a legal party and if they where not then why is it every time they are taken to court for the stupidest of things they are found not guilty,everything cameron said the bnp have said for years and been taken to court for daring to say those things but sumhow you people think cameron is imunne,we have a 2 tier system in the uk

your only racist if your white
if you love your country your a racist
if you think british jobs for british workers is fair your a racist
if you think we shouldnt give money away to terrorists money that we have to borrow cos we are broke, your a racist
if you think people should speak english when they come to the uk your racist
if your against islamic extremism your racist even though islam isnt a race
if you talk out about the government your an extremist and then quickly labeled a racist
im betting now you get the idea of the mental gulag us brits have to live in and take

www.youtube.com... bnp candidate being spat on, he defends himself and he is the agressor

www.youtube.com... female bnp candidate spat on and called a nazi

im pretty sure that almost 99% of indeginous brits are not racists and i come from the same stock of people and the same mentality that stood up to hitler and his facist scum,i know my history, i also can see my country is being dismantled and destroyed realy slowly and no one wants to talk about the big pink elephant sitting in the classsroom

Im fed up with people saying the bnp are racists and nazi facists,this needs to be sorted out once and for all,the truth however ugly and incomprehendable will always find the light of day.

ATS members we need to deny ignorance, there are many fake libreal,marxist self haters on this site

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peace



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:36 AM
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I watched the videos , and I seen the BNP consitutent insinuate that 3 men were out robbing cars !
if your a politcal party member , you are not supposed to act in this way , or fight people in public , they hardly do themselves any favours !

Calling me a liar is a bit far from the truth



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 11:06 AM
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posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 11:14 AM
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Hear hear. Our planet's wealth is held and controlled by the top 2% of the population. They throw scraps to the lower 98%, while strategically keeping us all divided through nationalism, racism, organized religion, etc. for centuries. We work for them, in a cleverly disguised form of slavery while they successfully direct our anger and hatred away from where it should be, them...and towards each other. Ever notice how the world leaders, and corporate elitists all hang out together and party, then go back to their countries and spread fear and hatred of the very countries who's leaders they partied with?? Right in front of our faces. We're being played.

There should be no borders, no nationality. We should all be able to travel where we want without being seen as an "outsider", and unwelcome. And MOST of all, we need to strip that top 1% of their wealth, it belongs to ALL of us. If mankind worked together, instead of using so much of our resources to fight each other, there would be no hunger or famine. There would be no reason for masses of people to flood one area looking to make a living. There would be a living to be made anywhere.
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posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 11:14 AM
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posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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We have a similar problem in the United States, so the UK is not the only country that has these issues. I do not know how immigration can be fixed.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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If you are unable to answer why Cameron is 40 years too late, why raise the point? How could Cameron have raised this issue 40 years ago. It would have been 5 years old. Of course, he could have raised the point earlier in his political career but as I have mentioned, those who have attempted to raise this have been hounded by the liberal left and called racist.

Just because this is an issue that should have been debated seriously and openly for decades does not diminish the need for debate today.

At least we are starting to have a debate and this issue has been recognised as one that many in the country are concerned about.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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Thanks for calling me and many others who are posting in the thread dumb for falling for Cameron's speech. None of us have any free will or opinions of your own, and can only follow what our Prime Minister says.

This is a serious and real issue to many in this thread and the country as a whole, and many who post on ATS have free will and opinions of their own, and are not sheep to be led. Rather than insult members, take the time to see what they have posted in the past, and realise that what they post are based on real world experiences.

Yes, there are many things in the country today and all out leaders over the past 40 years are to blame, but there have never been a serious and open discussions on the issue of immigration, and there are some well written posts in the thread that are far from racist, but explain in a clear and open way, the issues that many in the UK feel.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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Since Cameron's speech i head from a close freind they are planning to stop foreign students from doing any kinds of job and the previous 20 hour limit will be scrapped too.

Can anyone with more knowledge about it verify this?



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Yissachar1 Reply to post by P3ACE0WAR WE ARE English history deal with it. The land is ours. It is OUR sweat that ploughed the soil, built the roads, towns and cities. That defended this island from thos nazis and us who will take all of the above back. The sooner the better.

Posted Via ATS Mobile: m.abovetopsecret.com Oh jeesus, who is ours? You didn't defend against the Nazis, it was your ancestors, talk about yourself. It wasn't you who build the roads of the past, ploughed the soil of the past etc, tell us about yourself, how are you connected to the land more than other races? Are you suggesting you have done more than other races? I'm sure you haven't, you are judging yourself based on your color, that is racism.

You are under some misguided impression that a sense of pride in the country of one's birth is racist? I was born in England. My mother is English, my father was Scottish. I have been born into a nation rich in heritage that I am proud of. The ideals and principles that this country represents are my birthright, the define PART of who and what I am. I am proud of the achievements of my country, and ashamed at some of it's darker moments. Do you remember the film Gladiator, where Commodus and his sister are talking about 'the good of Rome'?
Commodus says 'Ah....what is Rome?'. His sister says, "An idea".
England is an idea that has embedded itself into the heart of its native population based on history, experience, culture, priicples, traditions. It is an idea that has held this country together as an entity for so long.
Please explain this concept of 'Racism' to me. As far as I am aware, there is only one race: The human race. If you are referring to variations based on colour and appearance, that is more to do with geography and ethnicity. People might look and sound different, but they are still of my race. So don't dare accuse me of racism. I could just as easily argue that your presumption of 'white people' thinking themselves superior (based on your own biased presuppositions) speaks volumes about your own issues with people of a certain colour. That doesn't make you racist though. After all, there is only one race. Is your argument against patriotism? Can I rejoice in the noble ideas that my country represents without having to declare every other country and culture as inferior at the same time? Of course I can! Do I have to consider painting superior to sculpture in order to like it? Does loving your country necessarily negate all others?
There is nothing wrong with loving your country.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:28 PM
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Id love to see Muslim extremists, the ones who are determined to takeover, have a little chat with these fellas.




posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:32 PM
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Almost one in eight people living in the UK are now foreign born after hitting record levels in the wake of the largest wave of immigration in history.

The proportion of the population born overseas almost doubled in two decades to more than 11 per cent, according to data seen by The Daily Telegraph.

It meant that just under seven million people living in Britain were immigrants – enough to fill a city the size of London.

The rise was largely down to Labour's "open door" immigration policy, under which three million foreigners were added to the population during the party's 13 years in power.

The figures, which were compiled by the Office for National Statistics, were disclosed amid a renewed debate on immigration.

David Cameron warned yesterday that uncontrolled immigration had undermined some British communities and led to "discomfort and disjointedness" in neighbourhoods.


The Telegraph



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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Japanese Shinto-ism has them worshipping their ancestors. Are they therefore intolerant racists for taking such pride and reverence in their heritage?
Maybe everything that's going on in Japan right now is karma payback for their raping and pillaging of China in the past (Nanking)



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by BarmyBilly
Must be election time....


Immigration is having a negative impact on the UK we simply cannot take any more! But as a poster said above it's just empty words, Cameron is just a puppet.


It isn't election time for another 2.5 years or maybe 3, as I am an ex-pat these days I lost the last erection, sorry, election



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by P3ACE0WAR
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But he is saying White people owns England, do you understand how racist that sounds? Like I said, racist people don't see themselves as racist, rather they see themselves as right.


It sounds about a quarter as racist as when you referred to Asian people as 'yellows' earlier



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