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Trump Uncovers TruthAbout Obama/AKA-(Barry Soetoro)Obama Is Not His Real Name. He's A Fraud

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posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by MonkeyWrench30
reply to post by hawaii50th
 


Someone needs to just catch the president out in public and call out to him by the name of Barry and see if he turns his head. That would tell a lot!


That's a good one, it be great to see if that would work. Some cons are really good though, they train themselves to believe their lie is not a lie.




posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Again with this Barry Soetoro crap?

That has been disproven 500 times already. It is a cross using his first name and his stepdad's last name. Barack Obama, II is his real name.

Lolo Soetoro is the name of his stepdad and his stepdad never adopted him so this is a lie.

Hook, line, sinker, SUNK!

TROLL ALERT, TROLL ALERT, TROLL ALERT!


And four troll stars your out. Show us the proof, I'm sure everyone would like to see this proof your talking about.
After all that's not been done by this man there's still those that refuse to go down as wrong. I guess some are just addicted to the man.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1

Originally posted by OldCorp

Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by hawaii50th
This explains all the gibberish that came out of his mouth a few times in the past when he was talking to large crowds and they blamed the teleprompter. Drug flash backs caused a lapse in memory.

Hmmm... more interesting news, call it whatever you want, it's out there.

Faal: Shock Report Says Obama Moved $85 Billion To Honduras
www.fourwinds10.com...
edit on 13-4-2011 by hawaii50th because: (no reason given)


This explains my utter disdain for what most birthers do to represent the collective brain power of a rather large segment of our population. This explains why I find it hard to believe even they believe the stuff they say. This explains why I have so much trouble treating most of them like mature adults who care about what they are saying and give 2 #s about the truth. This is exactly why.


Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers


You are on ATS for crying out loud!!!!!
Sorcha Fall...Internet Hoax Queen...

Please, birthers can you get together and decide what is crazy and what is not, regroup, present one cogent argument, and stop letting the very argument itself destroy the credibility of the movement? Please?


edit on 14-4-2011 by Sinnthia because: (no reason given)


I agree with everything you just said. Quoting Sorcha Fail? OMG, OP. What were you thinking? I also noticed a headline fail: Trump had nothing to do with this article, despite the header claim.

I don't know where Obama was born, there are too many different stories from BOTH sides of the issue. That may have been done on purpose to discredit the "Birther" claim, obfuscating the truth in a web of deceit. All I KNOW is that Obama is hiding SOMETHING by refusing to disclose his BC, his college transcripts, and other records that are essential in determining who this man really is.

Ordinary citizens have a right to privacy, but Obama is FAR from an ordinary citizen. He is the leader of the free world and I think we deserve to know everything there is to know about him. I have my beliefs on this issue, and if anyone's been paying attention I'm passionate about them. BUT, at the same time I NEED PROOF! If only for my own peace of mind.


The State Of Hawaii could take a photo of it in it's spot at Hawaii State Bureau of Health & Vital Statistics offices and you still would not believe it to be real.

What is your true agenda and purpose for these types of slanderous and hateful threads? Proof has already been issued but you continue to remain blind to this fact, something else is afoot and I will find out about it, make no mistake. What are you hiding? Whose payroll are you on?

EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT ONE OF THESE THREADS ARE DEBUNKED AND DISPROVEN THOSE LIKE YOU LAUNCH 100 MORE THREADS. GIVE IT UP, YOU HAVE LOST, AND BY REHASHING THE SAME LINES A THOUSAND TIMES OVER MAKES YOU LOSE YOUR CREDIBILITY BY THE HOUR.

Most of the reason is over racism, all because A BLACK MAN IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. Your true colours show more and more every day.
edit on 14-4-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)


Here we go again with the same lame excuse of using racism. This has nothing to do with race, and that is exactly the kind of pathetic tactic people will use when there is no other point to be made in their defense.
Get off using that excuse already, it's old and worn out.
And this issue will not go away, so you can keep trolling all you want.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by AboveTheTrees
It's amazing all the things some people can write say and do to undermine Obama's legit right to Presidency. Do "birthers" really believe all this certificate conspiracy blahblah? I guess they're just using it as a political tool for the easy-offended.
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Well, according to the stars given to these deniers of the truth, there are only four trolls on this thread, hmmm that a good sign.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 02:36 PM
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Every single claim and lie has since been disproven.
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That is a matter of opinion! and if Obama was such an honorable man he would just provide what is needed to answer to the charges. So don't tell me he is not hiding. The thing that really pisses me off is that during my application process to be a cop, I had to fill out a 27page personal history report, provide marriage license, drivers license, birth certificate (and it had to be the long form), college diploma, high school diploma, transcripts for both college and high school. Work history from the time I was 16, places where I lived since birth, name of grade schools, names of neighbors in each area I lived in. I was also told that it better be accurate because they will be sending an officer (across the country) to verify it, and I had to take a poly graph test to verify to it as well. All of which I did with no problem or complaint, and I am not even close to what the president has the authority to do.

Now tell me I don't have a right to expect more! I am fed up with this piece of $*!~. and the rest of you who sit here and say over and over we have no right to question him.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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You know I use to like German Shepard's and was going to choose this breed for my next "best friend" but because of your avatar I can't stand to look at one any longer.

I am a BIG RON PAUL fan, and I can honestly sit here and say that if there were allegations of this nature surrounding him, I would be in the front of the line screaming for it to be investigated! I would want the TRUTH know matter how much it hurt. This is what I don't get about you and the rest that protect him except that he is black and your all the raciest!



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by xyankee
and the rest of you who sit here and say over and over we have no right to question him.


This is apparently a new birther lie. Congratulations! Now, show me ONE QUOTE that says you have no right to question him. Just ONE.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by xyankee
You know I use to like German Shepard's and was going to choose this breed for my next "best friend" but because of your avatar I can't stand to look at one any longer.


It's probably not the right breed for you anyway. It's just as well.
Yes, I know, Jaia is pretty disgusting to look at.
I'm sorry if he offends you. And I'm sorry if the truth offends you. And all because I ASKED for proof of the allegations? Yeah, You better get a poodle.

By the way, it's German SHEPHERD. They are herding dogs. But poodle is easier to spell.


I would want the TRUTH know matter how much it hurt.


We HAVE the truth. Why continue to ask for something we have? That's a little bit insane.



This is what I don't get about you and the rest that protect him except that he is black and your all the raciest!


What now?

edit on 4/14/2011 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:05 PM
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It is not him that offends me, unless he is the one typing. I would bet he would attack Obama if he saw him.
As far a your quote, just go back to some of the early birther threads and you will see many, as a matter of fact I was personally told by someone!



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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Why, if there is nothing to hide, can't we just stop this arguing and all of us request that he clear this matter up? hum? Surly this should not be a big deal, and it would fix everything.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by hawaii50th
Show us the proof, I'm sure everyone would like to see this proof your talking about.
And exactly what proof have you presented to support your ever more absurd claims?

You dismiss the certificate presented by Obama and vouched by state authorities, and multiple US factchecking organizations. You dismiss the official statements of the, republican-appointed, Director of the Department of Health of the state of Hawaii. You dismiss the statement by the former, and Republican, governor of Hawaii.

And you expect us to accept as ‘proof’ someone’s blog you just posted that doesn’t even contain any sources? You have a curious understanding of what ‘proof’ means.

While perhaps you are persuaded by unsubstantiated claims on anonymous blogs and WND, the majority of people aren’t, and the courts you so desperately wish would remove Obama from office would laugh you out of court and fine you — as they have Orly Taitz — for relying on such ‘sources’ as the basis for your claims.

Additionally, since there is no legal obligation for Obama to present his birth certificate, long or short form, the only burden of proof is on those claiming, contrary to common sense and what US authorities have stated numerous times, that Obama wasn’t born in the United States.

Don’t act like people are ignoring your ‘proof’ of these wild claims because you have yet to present a single piece of credible evidence that supports any of what you are spreading here.

“What is he hiding?” is not an argument, it’s a question. And not even a good one since he isn’t required to disclose his birth certificate. Now, put up or shut up.


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posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by xyankee
It is not him that offends me, unless he is the one typing.


Well, perhaps I should be more politically correct so you won't be offended. Nah. Sorry, I'm not big on political correctness. If you're offended by the truth, that's your issue.

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He has already cleared it up. If you don't believe him that's YOUR problem, not his.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:42 PM
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The website cited in the original post and those who sponsor it are questionable, at best.

Always be careful to check who sponsors the information you are putting out there.

The link was provided by FourWinds10.com, who have some very "beliefs and ideas". They recommend that you also read all of the content on www.phoenixarchives.com... which they sponsor on their homepage, among some other really strange things...



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:47 PM
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all i can say is.
i have thought it was strange the first time i heard his name. OBAMA!. im like are u kidding me. the #1 terrorist bad guy after the one the hung. there lookin for is OSAMA. wow thats a little strange how are the american ppl going to handle that.? OBAMA/OSAMA ok. OMG no his middle name is "HUSSEIN" . now thats just taking the piss? we just hung that guy!.. and to make it worse. if u ever played RTS games. we all know what a BARRACKS is. lol.

so his name to me says "1 giant terrorist breeding unit"

ok. now whats even MORE amazing is that . "aparently he chose this name" he actaully changed his name from BARRY to . this hog wash. that means theres definatly something in it. why why why would u choose these names when the whole world is watching and knows the enemies names so well u go and change them to that. for real..


OK OK OK OK. ill calm down. but first watch this

i think OBAMA i OSAMA , for those of you who havnt seen this video. check this out.

if the govt doesnt block it in your country.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by xyankee
and the rest of you who sit here and say over and over we have no right to question him.


This is apparently a new birther lie. Congratulations! Now, show me ONE QUOTE that says you have no right to question him. Just ONE.


That is why the courts refuse to hear the lawsuits on their merits - apparently no-one in the entire US has 'standing'

That it the tone of most of the shills - because he's entitled to his privacy - because it is somehow 'racist' - because other presidents have supposedly not been 'queried' so much.

I would like you to show me ONE TIME any reporter has asked him why he will not produce a longform birth certificate.

I would like you to give me a candid assesment of the % votes this issue is going to cost him - and then explain why he still refuses to prove to the US public that he is a natural born citizen.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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Also, am I missing something? I was pretty sure his Hawaiian birth certificate was shown as legit? Beyond a doubt. Why is this even a conversation anymore?

Please read this article, you may not hold snopes.com as a "reliable" source but they cite all the info provided as well as links. The citations are at the bottom.

www.snopes.com...

Cased closed, really.
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posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:57 PM
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Barak (English pronunciation: /ˈbɛəræk/ or /ˈbɛərək/[1]; Hebrew: בָּרָק‎‎, Tiberian: Bārāq, "Lightning; Shine"), Al-Burāq (Arabic: البُراق‎ al-Burāq "lightning") the son of Abinoam from Kedesh in Naphtali, was a military general in the Book of Judges in the Bible. He was the commander of the army of Deborah, the prophetess and heroine of the Hebrew Bible. Barak and Deborah are credited with defeating the Canaanite armies led by Sisera, who for twenty years had oppressed the Israelites.

The story of the defeat of the Canaanites under the prophetic leadership of Deborah and the military leadership of Barak, is related in prose (Judges chapter 4) and repeated in poetry (chapter 5, which is known as the Song of Deborah). Chapter 4 makes the chief enemy Jabin, king of Hazor (present Tell el-Qedah, about three miles southwest of Hula Basin), though a prominent part is played by his commander-in-chief, Sisera of Harosheth-ha-goiim (possibly Tell el-'Amr, approximately 12 miles (19 km) northwest of Megiddo).

Hussein ( Last name of Saddam the ruler of Iraq) you know the guy we supposedly hung.

Obama- Sounds alot like (OSAMA)-USAMA as in Bin Laden


Lets look at the word Trump as in Donald Trump

A trump is a playing card which is elevated above its normal rank in trick-taking games. Typically an entire suit is nominated as a trump suit - these cards then outrank all cards of plain (non-trump) suits. In other contexts, the term trump card can refer to any sort of action, authority, or policy which automatically prevails over all others.
In most games, trump cards cannot be played if the player has any cards of the suit led to the trick; in a few, trumps can be played at any time. Playing the first trump to an already-started trick is known as trumping or ruffing; if another player were to play a higher trump, that would be an overruff or overtrump.

The tarot deck contains a fifth suit known in occult circles as the Major Arcana, which serves as a permanent trump suit in games played with the tarot deck. The suit consists of twenty-two cards, including a Fool which serves as a highest trump or a kind of wild card in tarot games.

Its fair to say I know the language of the elite not because I am some kind of oracle sage but because I have studied it and trust in a good power that presides over us all. You have the ability as well to understand.

Conclusion and Point:
Lets just say simply put that the ruling class plays with your heads daily and to them its all a joke on the masses. However, what they are planning is a very serious time sensitive deal.
Last and final thought....they are all of the same group...showbiz as usual if you would. Showbiz is synonymous with HOLLY WOOD



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by xyankee



Every single claim and lie has since been disproven.
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1
 


That is a matter of opinion! and if Obama was such an honorable man he would just provide what is needed to answer to the charges. So don't tell me he is not hiding. The thing that really pisses me off is that during my application process to be a cop, I had to fill out a 27page personal history report, provide marriage license, drivers license, birth certificate (and it had to be the long form), college diploma, high school diploma, transcripts for both college and high school. Work history from the time I was 16, places where I lived since birth, name of grade schools, names of neighbors in each area I lived in. I was also told that it better be accurate because they will be sending an officer (across the country) to verify it, and I had to take a poly graph test to verify to it as well. All of which I did with no problem or complaint, and I am not even close to what the president has the authority to do.

Now tell me I don't have a right to expect more! I am fed up with this piece of $*!~. and the rest of you who sit here and say over and over we have no right to question him.


This is not opinion but fact, what's the problem? Can't get out of this lie?

Hook, line, sinker, SUNK!

BTW, all who dfend the Birthers are Trolls.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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This phony tyrant... Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama has always been a anti-American, neo-socialist and was a member of communist party (New Party) of America in 1996....I've got New Party newspaper articles from that time stating his membership...Why would they lie?Obama & Hillary's "Anti-American Revolution!"

The articles from the New Party news stating Obama's communist membership are filed on my pc and I really don't know how to bring this image up...I'll work on that.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
That is why the courts refuse to hear the lawsuits on their merits - apparently no-one in the entire US has 'standing'


If you bring a case to the Supreme Court without ANY evidence whatsoever, yeah, it's going to be thrown out. The reason these cases have been refused is that the plaintiffs can bring NO EVIDENCE to show that they have a case.



I would like you to show me ONE TIME any reporter has asked him why he will not produce a longform birth certificate.


I have not made that claim.



I would like you to give me a candid assesment of the % votes this issue is going to cost him -


ZERO. If he showed his long form BC tomorrow, not one birther would change their mind and vote for him. SO he has lost NO votes. Next?



and then explain why he still refuses to prove to the US public that he is a natural born citizen.


He doesn't refuse to prove it. He PROVED it already!



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